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Wednesday, February 27, 2008

TBS steps to the plate with new Sunday MLB package featuring baseball’s best teams

TBS announced today the first two months of its new baseball “Sunday MLB on TBS” schedule for the 2008 season. The package, which includes match-ups on TBS every Sunday afternoon throughout the regular season, leads off with the defending World Champion Boston Red Sox facing the Toronto Blue Jays on Sunday, April 6th at 1 p.m. ET. The network will also exclusively televise the MLB All-Star Selection Show on Sunday, July 6th. Additionally, beginning in October TBS will once again provide exclusive coverage of the Division Series and, for the first time, exclusive coverage of the American League Championship Series (ALCS).

knucklehead7 Posted: February 27, 2008 at 09:51 PM | 66 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
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   1. Rodder Posted: February 27, 2008 at 10:25 PM (#2701456)
As I posted in the dugout earlier - the first 2 months of the schedule:

Sunday, April 6 1:00 p.m. Boston Red Sox @ Toronto Blue Jays
Sunday, April 13 1:30 p.m. Chicago Cubs @ Philadelphia Phillies
Sunday, April 20 1:30 p.m. LA Dodgers @ Atlanta Braves
Sunday, April 27 1:00 p.m. NY Yankees @ Cleveland Indians
Sunday, May 4 4:00 p.m. NY Mets @ Arizona Diamondbacks
Sunday, May 11 1:00 p.m. NY Yankees @ Detroit Tigers
Sunday, May 18 1:30 p.m. Milwaukee Brewers @ Boston Red Sox
Sunday, May 25 1:00 p.m. Seattle Mariners @ NY Yankees

So, of the 1st 8 games, 5 games with either the Yankees or Boston (the others have a NY, LA or Chicago team). I was really hoping they were going to add value to the baseball broadcast schedule, but they are just showing the teams that are shown all the time anyway.
   2. Dr. Vaux Posted: February 27, 2008 at 10:29 PM (#2701463)
It means that different teams will be on Sunday night, though.
   3. Cowboy Popup Posted: February 27, 2008 at 10:30 PM (#2701466)
Sweet!!!

I was really hoping they were going to add value to the baseball broadcast schedule, but they are just showing the teams that are shown all the time anyway.

Still, more nationally televised baseball is more nationally televised baseball. If things break right, you could conceivabley catch 3 games on Sunday.
   4. Barry`s_Lazy_Boy Posted: February 27, 2008 at 10:37 PM (#2701478)
Will this trump local broadcasts in the same way the Saturday national broadcasts do?
   5. Shooty Survived the Shutdown of '14! Posted: February 27, 2008 at 10:45 PM (#2701497)
So, of the 1st 8 games, 5 games with either the Yankees or Boston (the others have a NY, LA or Chicago team). I was really hoping they were going to add value to the baseball broadcast schedule, but they are just showing the teams that are shown all the time anyway.

Eventually MLB will adopt the NFL model of hyping ALL the teams. One day, maybe.
   6. RoyalsRetro (AG#1F) Posted: February 27, 2008 at 10:49 PM (#2701505)
Awesome! I miss the Game of the Week, and hate FOX's version of it.
   7. Randy Jones Posted: February 27, 2008 at 10:52 PM (#2701512)
Eventually MLB will adopt the NFL model of hyping ALL the teams. One day, maybe.

Teams on nationally televised NFL games are almost always teams that were very good the previous year and/or teams that have a large national following. What baseball does is the exact same thing.
   8. The Id of SugarBear Blanks Posted: February 27, 2008 at 11:00 PM (#2701531)
Somebody please tell me these aren't going to blackout all games on Extra Innings.
   9. Moloka'i Three-Finger Brown (Declino DeShields) Posted: February 27, 2008 at 11:04 PM (#2701539)
The real question is whether Chip Caray will make sweet, sweet love to the microphone every time a team lays down a sac bunt, like he did during last year's playoffs.
   10. salvomania Posted: February 27, 2008 at 11:06 PM (#2701542)
Will this trump local broadcasts in the same way the Saturday national broadcasts do?

If it does, we Extra Innings subscribers should lobby for a 15% rate cut....
   11. Foster Posted: February 27, 2008 at 11:12 PM (#2701548)
Somebody please tell me these aren't going to blackout all games on Extra Innings.

No kidding. Even with a rate cut, I might not bother this year with no weekend day games whatsoever.
   12. Greg Maddux School of Reflexive Profanity Posted: February 27, 2008 at 11:21 PM (#2701560)
There's no blackout.
   13. BeanoCook Posted: February 27, 2008 at 11:25 PM (#2701564)
Yes the Yankess, Red Sox, Cubs and Dodgers are going to be on TV a lot. But in the 1st 8 weeks, there are 8 different stadiums and none in Chicago or LA.

It seems rather balanced to me.

And that second Red Sox game is a cool interleague match up of the Brewers v Red Sox. Who wouldn't want to watch Ryan Braun try to navigate the monster in just his 6th week in LF?
   14. winnipegwhip Posted: February 27, 2008 at 11:27 PM (#2701567)
Can anyone tell me this regarding Extra Innings....does one need a High Definition Receiver to get the SuperFan package?

I have a standard receiver and am thinking of getting Extra Innings but I am wondering if I can receive the "Game Mix" and "Strike Zone Channel" features.
   15. Alberto Gilardino Posted: February 27, 2008 at 11:38 PM (#2701581)
Other than the first week, there are no inter-divisional match-ups. Looks like they went out of their way to find match-ups where two different divisions are in play. I would rather watch Mets-Phillies or Tigers-Indians or even Mariners-Rangers than Cubs-Phillies, Mariners-Yankees or Dodgers-Braves.. and I'm a Dodgers fan.
   16. Sparkles Peterson Posted: February 27, 2008 at 11:49 PM (#2701596)
I wonder if MLB will get smart like the NFL and NBA and start making a bigger deal out of the draft too?


Even the MLB draftniks seem to have a consensus that the MLB draft will never be as big an issue because the players are not nearly as well-known as the college stars being taken in the NFL/NBA drafts. Personally, I've managed to be fascinated by the NFL draft despite not giving half of a #### about college football, and I don't think I'm alone in this regard. MLB won't ever have a huge built-in audience of NCAA fans, but I do think they can do well enough to turn it into a profitable media event.
   17. Natty Fan Posted: February 28, 2008 at 12:07 AM (#2701612)
I took a peek at the 8:05 Sunday night (ESPN) games through May:

March 30 - Atlanta at Washington
April 6 - Chicago Sox at Detroit
April 13 - Y Yankees at Boston
April 20 - NY Mets at Philadelphia
April 27 - LA Angels at Detroit
May 4 - ? (no night games scheduled)
May 11 - Boston at Minnesota
May 18 - ? (no night games scheduled)
May 25 - LA Angels at Chicago Sox

Between ESPN and TBS, we'll have (at least) 16 games in 12 different stadiums with 17 different teams. The Yankees and Red Sox appear four times each, and the Tigers appear three times. Nice mix of teams and venues, though.

I'm sure they'll broadcast some games from Colorado once the weather is nicer, right? (I hear they have a decent team.)
   18. Gambling Rent Czar Posted: February 28, 2008 at 12:49 AM (#2701642)
great just what we need..

another network shoving the Red Sox and Yankees down our throat!
I am going to call my cable operator and ask them to block TBS from my TV. I already miss the Braves games.
   19. Dr. Vaux Posted: February 28, 2008 at 12:52 AM (#2701645)
The Y Yankees don't stand a chance against Boston.
   20. TDF, situational idiot Posted: February 28, 2008 at 12:59 AM (#2701649)
Between ESPN and TBS, we'll have (at least) 16 games ... with 17 different teams.


Um...this is good?

The Yankees and Red Sox appear four times each, and the Tigers appear three times


Eight of the 16 games feature at least one of these teams.
   21. BDC Posted: February 28, 2008 at 01:14 AM (#2701656)
Well, at least I won't have to watch the Rangers.
   22. Dan Evensen Posted: February 28, 2008 at 02:21 AM (#2701693)
The TBS announce team will include 19-year broadcasting veteran Chip Caray who will provide play-by-play each week


No, please, no.

Looks like another year of mlb.tv for me.
   23. Gamingboy Posted: February 28, 2008 at 02:37 AM (#2701708)
I gotta wonder if Bon Jovi is providing the theme song again this year. That was like, the only redeeming feature of TBS last postseason. Even then, they played it so many times it nearly reached "This is our country" levels of repetition deterioration.
   24. The Non-Catching Molina (sjs1959) Posted: February 28, 2008 at 02:43 AM (#2701714)
The TBS announce team will include 19-year broadcasting veteran Chip Caray who will provide play-by-play each week


Well, he's only doing 44 Braves games on Peachtree TV, so Time Warner has to have him do SOMETHING to justify his contract.

I would have preferred his father, though...
   25. Xander Posted: February 28, 2008 at 02:47 AM (#2701717)
The Red Sox, Yankees, and Tigers are all must-watch teams, so I don't really see the problem here.

If people are so dead-set on seeing Florida vs. Washington, get MLB.tv. I have a hard time trying to blame TBS for putting on the teams or matchups which they know will bring the biggest ratings. They didn't pay all that money to broadcast the games for philanthropic reasons.
   26. MM1f Posted: February 28, 2008 at 02:47 AM (#2701718)
"I would have preferred his father, though..."

Yeah, but no suits would.

Skip is too sharp, sarcastic and honest for them
   27. Boots Day Posted: February 28, 2008 at 02:53 AM (#2701722)
You can't really complain about a few Tigers games. It's not like the country has been oversaturated with them. Some games with the NL champs would be nice, though.
   28. The Answer to the TWolves (GMoney) Posted: February 28, 2008 at 03:56 AM (#2701757)
No Pittsburgh Pirates what the hell, I'm not gonna watch these crap teams.
   29. jolietconvict Posted: February 28, 2008 at 04:27 AM (#2701770)
Can anyone tell me this regarding Extra Innings....does one need a High Definition Receiver to get the SuperFan package?

I have a standard receiver and am thinking of getting Extra Innings but I am wondering if I can receive the "Game Mix" and "Strike Zone Channel" features.


I'm pretty sure you do not as Game Mix and Strike Zone are not in HD.
   30. jolietconvict Posted: February 28, 2008 at 04:28 AM (#2701771)
Couple of other points there is no blackout as on Saturdays but there will be no local broadcasts of these games.
   31. GGC don't think it can get longer than a novella Posted: February 28, 2008 at 04:32 AM (#2701772)
This sked kinda screws Cleveland. I guess that they have a flex schedue so that if a team is sucking wind by Memorial Day, they don't have to cover them.


They really should have a Rockies game on the schedule, though. It's asinine that they don't.
   32. Dan Evensen Posted: February 28, 2008 at 07:36 AM (#2701870)
I thought I read somewhere that the Rockies would get their first national TV appearance in 6 years next season. Can't remember the source, though (NYTimes?), and, of course, there was no specific date.
   33. Dr. Vaux Posted: February 28, 2008 at 08:25 AM (#2701875)
It could be a FOX "national" game.
   34. Lassus Posted: February 28, 2008 at 11:28 AM (#2701885)
Something someone said about not pleasing everyone all the time seems appropriate here.
   35. The elusive Robert Denby Posted: February 28, 2008 at 03:55 PM (#2701971)
Yeah! I was beginning to forget when "Frank TV" aired.
   36. Styles P. Deadball Posted: February 28, 2008 at 04:28 PM (#2701993)
Can anyone tell me this regarding Extra Innings....does one need a High Definition Receiver to get the SuperFan package?

I have a standard receiver and am thinking of getting Extra Innings but I am wondering if I can receive the "Game Mix" and "Strike Zone Channel" features.


I had it last year without HD. The only problem I ran into was I couldn't navigate the audio on the game mix. It was the remote, though, that couldn't handle that. I was stuck with whatever the default game was (Yankees about 90% of the time).
   37. Boots Day Posted: February 28, 2008 at 04:35 PM (#2701997)
I thought I read somewhere that the Rockies would get their first national TV appearance in 6 years next season.

Hmm... I seem to recall seeing them on national TV just last October....
   38. TDF, situational idiot Posted: February 28, 2008 at 05:11 PM (#2702015)
The Red Sox, Yankees, and Tigers are all must-watch teams, so I don't really see the problem here.

If people are so dead-set on seeing Florida vs. Washington, get MLB.tv. I have a hard time trying to blame TBS for putting on the teams or matchups which they know will bring the biggest ratings. They didn't pay all that money to broadcast the games for philanthropic reasons.


Five teams have played in the World Series from the NL the past 6 years; None of them are on these two schedules. Meanwhile, the 90 loss White Sox, Atlanta (who havn't won a playoff series since '01), Detroit (who've been in the playoffs once since '87), and Philly (who've been in the playoffs once since '93) combine for 9 appearances.
   39. Mushmouth Posted: February 28, 2008 at 05:19 PM (#2702031)
Wonder if they will be in HD...
   40. A Random 8-Year-Old Eskimo Posted: February 28, 2008 at 05:27 PM (#2702046)
What is the blackout policy with MLB.tv? I tried sending an e-mail to MLB.com and just got a form letter in response. Is it basically that you're blacked out of all the local games in your area and then sometimes on weekends?
   41. The Essex Snead Posted: February 28, 2008 at 05:52 PM (#2702085)
Can anyone tell me this regarding Extra Innings....does one need a High Definition Receiver to get the SuperFan package?

I have a standard receiver and am thinking of getting Extra Innings but I am wondering if I can receive the "Game Mix" and "Strike Zone Channel" features.


As folks have already mentioned, you don't need an HD TV. However, HD broadcasts of some (1 or 2 per day) of the Extra Innings games are part of the SuperFan package. Hopefully, they'll offer more HD content this year - more often than not, it seemed the games they HD'd were either Red Sox, Yankees, or Mets. Great for some, but being in CT, I get those games anyway. What sucked even more is that, because of the blackout rules, the Red Sox HD Extra Innings broadcasts were blacked out, even though I couldn't get them in HD (because of some DirecTV satellite coverage issue). Meaning that I either had to "put up with" grainy standard def NESN games, or crystal-clear HD games besmirched by Michael Kay & Co. (Stupid SNY better broadcast road games in HD this year.)

Don't get me started on not having ABC in HD, or else I'll really sound like an overprivileged jackoff.
   42. Crispix reaches boiling point with lackluster play Posted: February 28, 2008 at 06:07 PM (#2702110)
Five teams have played in the World Series from the NL the past 6 years; None of them are on these two schedules. Meanwhile, the 90 loss White Sox, Atlanta (who havn't won a playoff series since '01), Detroit (who've been in the playoffs once since '87), and Philly (who've been in the playoffs once since '93) combine for 9 appearances.

Yeah, well, that's just, like, your opinion, man.

I would also like to know the blackout policy with MLB.tv. Living in Pittsburgh, though, there's little or no downside to being unable to see the local team's games.
   43. Brian Posted: February 28, 2008 at 06:17 PM (#2702121)
I thought they did a pretty good job with the baseball draft last June, for a first attempt. They had video of all the picks and the commentators were knowledgable.
   44. flournoy Posted: February 28, 2008 at 06:21 PM (#2702127)
Five teams have played in the World Series from the NL the past 6 years; None of them are on these two schedules. Meanwhile, the 90 loss White Sox, Atlanta (who havn't won a playoff series since '01), Detroit (who've been in the playoffs once since '87), and Philly (who've been in the playoffs once since '93) combine for 9 appearances.


I could do without any New York or Boston games whatsoever, and a lot more random NL games myself, but I don't think these specific criticisms hold much water. The Phillies have been to the playoffs once since '93, yes... and that once was last year. They'll have a good team again this year, too. The Tigers have been to the playoffs once since '87, yes... and that was two years ago, when they were in the World Series. They'll have a very good team this year. The Braves are a perennial contender with obvious historic ties to TBS. The White Sox won the World Series a few years ago, even though they were bad last year.

I'll third the request for MLB.tv blackout policies.
   45. SoSH U at work Posted: February 28, 2008 at 06:28 PM (#2702136)
Five teams have played in the World Series from the NL the past 6 years; None of them are on these two schedules. Meanwhile, the 90 loss White Sox, Atlanta (who havn't won a playoff series since '01), Detroit (who've been in the playoffs once since '87), and Philly (who've been in the playoffs once since '93) combine for 9 appearances.


To be fair, except for Colorado, most of those recent NL champions are expected to be pretty crappy in 08 (Houston, Florida, St. Louis and San Francisco).
   46. TDF, situational idiot Posted: February 28, 2008 at 06:42 PM (#2702145)
The Phillies have been to the playoffs once since '93, yes... and that once was last year.


While defending NL champ Colorado isn't on the schedule.

The Tigers have been to the playoffs once since '87, yes... and that was two years ago, when they were in the World Series.


Where they lost to the Cardinals, who also were in the Series in '04, and the NLCS between those two. The Cards aren't on the schedule.

The White Sox won the World Series a few years ago, even though they were bad last year.


The same could be said of Florida, which isn't on the schedule.

16 of the 30 slots are taken by teams east of Atlanta; another 8 by teams on the shores of the Great Lakes; another 4 by teams on the Pacific Coast. That leaves 2 appearances by teams for fans in the rest of the country. Two.
   47. TDF, situational idiot Posted: February 28, 2008 at 06:44 PM (#2702147)
To be fair, except for Colorado, most of those recent NL champions are expected to be pretty crappy in 08 (Houston, Florida, St. Louis and San Francisco).


As opposed to the White Sox, Twins, and Nationals, who combine for 4 appearances.
   48. SoSH U at work Posted: February 28, 2008 at 06:58 PM (#2702167)
As opposed to the White Sox, Twins, and Nationals, who combine for 4 appearances.


Wow, four.

I'll join your objection over Colorado's exclusion. That's ridiculous. But complaining that a bunch of NL teams that aren't expected to be competitive have been left off the schedule is silly.
   49. TDF, situational idiot Posted: February 28, 2008 at 07:03 PM (#2702178)
But complaining that a bunch of NL teams that aren't expected to be competitive have been left off the schedule is silly.


When those teams are excluded to give more games to uncompetative teams in already covered markets, I don't think it's so silly.
   50. SoSH U at work Posted: February 28, 2008 at 07:10 PM (#2702190)
When those teams are excluded to give more games to uncompetative teams in already covered markets, I don't think it's so silly.


You're talking about one game (the second White Sox appearance). Or are the excluded bottom feeders somehow more worthy than the scheduled bottom feeders?
   51. HowardMegdal Posted: February 28, 2008 at 07:17 PM (#2702199)
More Baseball = Good.

These other points all have merit- but just the grasp of this key point above by Major League Baseball makes me very happy.
   52. TDF, situational idiot Posted: February 28, 2008 at 07:26 PM (#2702220)
<quote>I have a hard time trying to blame TBS for putting on the teams or matchups which they know will bring the biggest ratings. They didn't pay all that money to broadcast the games for philanthropic reasons.
</quote>
The NFL played 28 non-Sunday regular season games this season. Four teams (Cleveland, Oakland, Kansas City, Tampa Bay) did not appear; Dallas and Denver were the only teams to appear 4 times (the same as Boston and NYY in these 15 scheduled games).

Edited to include quote.
   53. Flynn Posted: February 28, 2008 at 07:30 PM (#2702226)
Anybody complaining about the TBS schedule is an idiot. That's a very very fair list. Yeah, the Yanks are on it three times, but two of their opponents are the Indians and the Tigers and I would bet that it's likely the two best teams in MLB meeting each other on those dates are those matchups. The Red Sox are on it twice and get the Brewers, a team that deserves national exposure, and the Jays. The Jays aren't quite the best matchup that weekend (Mets-Braves would probably be it, which doesn't exactly feed into the theory TBS is ignoring middle-market teams), but you can't fault TBS for wanting to start off their season with the defending World Series champions.

If your plan is to expose new teams to the casual fan, then this is the way to go - match up good middle-market teams with good big-market teams and hope the middle-market team pulls out a win and new stars emerge. The average fan is going to look at Diamondbacks-Brewers and think if Webb isn't pitching then who cares. Red Sox-Brewers will attract much more interest.

Colorado should be on either ESPN or TBS's list, but I think the executives are concerned that their season is a flash in the pan. Not totally unfair considering they were nowhere until mid-September.
   54. TDF, situational idiot Posted: February 28, 2008 at 09:34 PM (#2702375)
Yeah, the Yanks are on it three times, but two of their opponents are the Indians and the Tigers and I would bet that it's likely the two best teams in MLB meeting each other on those dates are those matchups....If your plan is to expose new teams to the casual fan, then this is the way to go - match up good middle-market teams with good big-market teams and hope the middle-market team pulls out a win and new stars emerge.


Which would be fine and dandy, except:

1. The Tigers are on twice in that timeframe on ESPN.
2. The Tigers, and their top-5 payroll, aren't mid-market.

The Red Sox are on it twice and get the Brewers, a team that deserves national exposure,


Why are the Brewers more deserving of national exposure than any other team, like any of the past 6 NL champs?

Look - the NFL isn't afraid to put the (forget)ing Lions in every home every Thanksgiving, and I hear the NFL does pretty well on TV. Why is it OK for MLB to only pimp the same 4 or 5 teams year in and year out???
   55. Flynn Posted: February 28, 2008 at 11:38 PM (#2702561)
Why are the Brewers more deserving of national exposure than any other team, like any of the past 6 NL champs?

Because unlike San Francisco, Florida, St Louis and Houston, the Brewers will actually be good?

I do not understand how in good conscience you can argue that TBS should subject us to watching the Giants.
   56. Crispix reaches boiling point with lackluster play Posted: February 28, 2008 at 11:47 PM (#2702568)
I agree with Flynn. The teams being shown here are the good teams, minus the Rockies for some reason. Sure, we can't be sure that the Tigers will be better than the Twins, of course. But let's not make the perfect the enemy of the good. I was expecting any list like this to have about 3 times as many Red Sox, Mets and Cubs games as it has.
   57. flournoy Posted: February 28, 2008 at 11:52 PM (#2702579)
I was expecting any list like this to have about 3 times as many Red Sox, Mets and Cubs games as it has.


You were expecting fifteen out of eight games to feature those teams, instead of five out of eight? (Seven out of eight, once you throw in the Yankees.)
   58. Steve Parris, Je t'aime Posted: February 29, 2008 at 12:45 AM (#2702616)
I'll third the request for MLB.tv blackout policies.

Isn't it the same as that for Extra Innings? I didn't think there was any difference between the two in terms of content.
   59. Dan Szymborski Posted: February 29, 2008 at 12:56 AM (#2702617)
For MLB.TV, you guys need to be more creative at circumventing blackout policies. Half the internet is based on disregarding the wishes of various companies, after all!
   60. Gambling Rent Czar Posted: February 29, 2008 at 01:20 AM (#2702626)
No padres on those lists anywhere .. or did i miss it.

figures.
   61. TDF, situational idiot Posted: February 29, 2008 at 01:29 AM (#2702631)
I do not understand how in good conscience you can argue that TBS should subject us to watching the Giants.


It's not just the Giants. How about the A's, who along with SF inhabit the 6th largest TV market? Either team from Texas, the second most populous state in the country? The Ohio River teams (Pittsburgh, Cinci, St. Louis)? San Diego?

Look at St. Louis. Again, recently very successful. Since '82, they've been out of the top 5 in attendence in the league 3 times, so obviously pretty popular (the NYY were as low as 11th in the early '90's; Boston averaged fewer than 30K/game just 10 years ago).

If the rest of the season's national schedule resembles the first 2 months', it will prove once again that baseball is only seen as important in some markets.
   62. Phil Plantier's Famous Toilet Seat Stance Posted: February 29, 2008 at 02:08 AM (#2702645)
Additionally, beginning in October TBS will once again provide exclusive coverage of the Division Series and, for the first time, exclusive coverage of the American League Championship Series (ALCS).


I may well be one of the only who might be bothered by this little nugget, but as someone who was greatly disappointed in TBS's exclusivity of the ALDS this past season color me disappointed on this one as well.

With the Red Sox being my "home" team I had kind of gotten used to having a local OTA simulcast come playoff time, other than the 2-3 times I got down to Fenway they were the only games I actually got to SEE rather than hear. Now I'll have to root extra hard for the WS knowing it's the only opportunity I'll get to see my team.

Is it wrong that knowing I won't be able to watch playoff games is already starting to sour me on the '08 season? It's not that I'm assuming they'll get there, but I'm the type who listens on radio to every single game, and knowing I won't get the payoff off seeing postseason IF they get there makes we think the effort might not be worth it.



Hmmm, maybe that needs explaining. I can't really complain about the exclusivity clauses in the TBS contract, I understand why they're there. I just happen to be one of six people in America who CANNOT get cable (lines have never been laid where I live) or satellite television (I suppose I could cut down some national forest trees though, who'd miss 'em?) where they live.
   63. Dr. Vaux Posted: February 29, 2008 at 02:52 AM (#2702673)
Can you see the playoffs with MLB.tv?
   64. Phil Plantier's Famous Toilet Seat Stance Posted: February 29, 2008 at 03:08 AM (#2702682)
Well, that all depends. If the team I truly care about is playing then no because I'm considered local market, if it's anyone other than the Red Sox I'd likely pony up the cash to watch the games.

During the ALDS this past year I watched on the TBS online feed. I can't remember what it was called, but it was a split screen with the games on one part of it and some studio analysts on the other (with audio from the studio and not the game).
   65. Flynn Posted: February 29, 2008 at 06:40 PM (#2703114)
How about the A's, who along with SF inhabit the 6th largest TV market? Either team from Texas, the second most populous state in the country? The Ohio River teams (Pittsburgh, Cinci, St. Louis)? San Diego?

Other than San Diego and maybe Cincinnati, all of those teams are expected to be under .500 in 2008. I don't want to watch shitty baseball. I don't see how you can disagree with that.


Look at St. Louis. Again, recently very successful. Since '82, they've been out of the top 5 in attendence in the league 3 times, so obviously pretty popular (the NYY were as low as 11th in the early '90's; Boston averaged fewer than 30K/game just 10 years ago).


Except they're going to be a bad team. It's the Game of the Week, not Little League where everybody gets to play. I want TBS to showcase the best baseball matchups they can get every week, and St. Louis is rarely, if ever, going to be there on its own merits. Even then, I doubt they wouldn't fly in to cover Cubs-Cardinals or something like that at some point.


If the rest of the season's national schedule resembles the first 2 months', it will prove once again that baseball is only seen as important in some markets.


Yes, those markets where the local nine are good. Do you not think this happens in every sport? I never see the Niners on national TV anymore - they got on twice this year, but both times it was for their opponent - when throughout the 90s I thought the Niners had a birthright to be on MNF 3 times a year and on SNF twice a year. Wonder why this doesn't happen anymore? Because the Niners have been terrible for 10 years.

Leagues do not want to showcase marquee matchups involving bad teams, as by design they aren't "marquee". That's perfectly reasonable, even acceptable. If I didn't have MLB.TV and lived abroad, I'd want to watch as many big games on my idiot box as I could. I wouldn't stay in on a Sunday to watch Pirates-Giants, because SF is a big "TV market".

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