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Friday, December 30, 2005

TC Palm: Valyo: By George, put Steinbrenner in charge of baseball dress code police (RR)

and look for Mr. Valyo in the forthcoming remake of “Joe”!

Steinbrenner has not been one of my favorite baseball owners. He interferes much too much with the manager. What he does do right, however, is make sure that his team looks good on and off the field.

Baseball players have become sloppy over the years. With all the money they make (yes, I will add this much used phrase), you would think that they could afford a haircut and a shave. Most teams in the majors are poor examples for the cities they represent. City officials should put in a clause in the contracts they sign with owners when money for a new stadium are bantered about. It should read “we will give you the money, provided that your ballplayers get haircuts and beards removed” and that they set a fine example on and off the field.

Social fashion trends have molded the attitudes of ballplayers throughout the years. It seems that long hair, moustaches, beards, sideburns and goatees are common in lineups today.

In the late 60s and 70s, baseball dress on the field was conservative. Facial hair was out during this period. I remember when Dick Allen, the powerful first baseman, came to Philadelphial sporting a moustache and beard in the 70s. My loyalty to the team took a dip during his tenure with the Phillies.

 

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   1. Furious George Posted: December 30, 2005 at 04:24 PM (#1799893)
I bet this guy walked 10-miles in the snow, uphill both ways to get to school when he was younger too.
   2. John DiFool2 Posted: December 30, 2005 at 04:39 PM (#1799911)
I remember a different 70's I'm afraid. I guess he forgot about the A's dynasty.
A quick search reveals this pic from 1972 (IIRC, by 1974 they were looking even
scruffier...)

1972 A's pic
   3. TerpNats Posted: December 30, 2005 at 04:41 PM (#1799915)
Most teams in the majors are poor examples for the cities they represent. City officials should put in a clause in the contracts they sign with owners when money for a new stadium are bantered about. It should read “we will give you the money, provided that your ballplayers get haircuts and beards removed” and that they set a fine example on and off the field.

Oh, I'm just waiting for the D.C. City Council to stipulate that for the Nationals. Could be a deal-breaker.
   4. Lee Smith & Wesson Posted: December 30, 2005 at 04:41 PM (#1799916)
We need less brownshirts, not more.
   5. Slinger Francisco Barrios (Dr. Memory) Posted: December 30, 2005 at 04:51 PM (#1799929)
I was trying to figure out if he was being sarcastic, so I read his column on ND football. Conclusion: he is indeed serious. Probably the perfect sports columnist for all the grandpas down there.
   6. A triple short of the cycle Posted: December 30, 2005 at 04:56 PM (#1799934)
Sweet photo John D.

Welcome! Thank you for visiting TCPalm.com, your source for in-depth local news and information


What newspaper is this "TC Palm"? A local newspaper or tv station's web site should identify the area they are serving.
   7. Pujols Shot Ya Posted: December 30, 2005 at 04:58 PM (#1799936)
Local. So wherever you're reading it from... right around there.
   8. Penarol1916 Posted: December 30, 2005 at 05:02 PM (#1799943)
And here I thought that old coots didn't like the metrosexual look of the cleaned up Jason Giambi and whatnot. To be perfectly honest, not liking a team because a star player has facial hair seems a little swishy rather than old school.
   9. Hang down your head, Tom Foley Posted: December 30, 2005 at 05:06 PM (#1799952)
And here I thought that old coots didn't like the metrosexual look of the cleaned up Jason Giambi and whatnot. To be perfectly honest, not liking a team because a star player has facial hair seems a little swishy rather than old school.

We don't like nothing that ain't Cap Anson. And you ####### kids better get off my lawn!
   10. bunyon Posted: December 30, 2005 at 05:17 PM (#1799962)
Why the hatred for beards? I look 100% better with a beard than without. Maybe they want me to look ugly to make them look good. Hmm.
   11. Sexy Lizard Posted: December 30, 2005 at 05:26 PM (#1799974)
God damn long hair hippy homo commie pinko ballplayers!
   12. Matt Garza smells it deep (Mr. Tapeworm) Posted: December 30, 2005 at 05:37 PM (#1799993)
To rebel, Johnny Damon should let his nose hair grow until he has enough to regain beardo status. Hey, it's not technically against Steinbrenner's Law. Nothing about nose hair in there. Or ear hair. He could regrow his flowing locks from his ears.

Personally, I'd like to see a team institute a rule requiring handlebar moustaches. Plus, they must lick the skin from Abner Doubleday's inner thigh before taking the field each game.
   13. Scott Kazmir's breaking balls Posted: December 30, 2005 at 05:41 PM (#1799999)
Most teams in the majors are poor examples for the cities they represent. City officials should put in a clause in the contracts they sign with owners when money for a new stadium are bantered about. It should read “we will give you the money, provided that your ballplayers get haircuts and beards removed” and that they set a fine example on and off the field.

However, your team can have putrid uniform designs. Your clean cut players can then be the laughing stock of the league.

RIP Marge Schott
   14. Rob Base Posted: December 30, 2005 at 05:55 PM (#1800018)
Now this was a haircut you could set your watch to.
   15. s.zielinski Posted: December 30, 2005 at 06:10 PM (#1800032)
Now this was a haircut you could set your watch to.

Or sand a board smooth.
   16. JH (in DC) Posted: December 30, 2005 at 06:18 PM (#1800042)
I definitely have an old baseball book from the late 80's ("Baseball Confidential", possibly?) that lists all the dress code and facial rules for all the teams at that time. Makes for an interesting read.
   17. shoewizard Posted: December 30, 2005 at 06:38 PM (#1800077)
I bet this guy walked 10-miles in the snow, uphill both ways to get to school when he was younger too.

Yeah, well back in my day, we had to walk to school with no feet!!
   18. Van Lingle Mungo Jerry Posted: December 30, 2005 at 07:30 PM (#1800188)
How is it possible that there have been six posts (as I type) since Mr. Tapeworm's and not one has commented on the uber-disgustingness of the fact that a piece of skin from the inside of Abner Doubleday's inner left thigh was found in a refrigerator in the Hall of Fame? I've lost my faith in this site.
   19. My guest will be Jermaine Allensworth Posted: December 30, 2005 at 08:00 PM (#1800244)
What newspaper is this "TC Palm"? A local newspaper or tv station's web site should identify the area they are serving.

Treasure Coast, Florida. Vero Beach, St. Lucie, and the like. I nearly moved there.
   20. Matt Garza smells it deep (Mr. Tapeworm) Posted: December 30, 2005 at 08:22 PM (#1800282)
How is it possible that there have been six posts (as I type) since Mr. Tapeworm's and not one has commented on the uber-disgustingness of the fact that a piece of skin from the inside of Abner Doubleday's inner left thigh was found in a refrigerator in the Hall of Fame?

Because they've been desensitized by the fact that Hoss Radbourne's left teste was found in the same refrigerator.
   21. Slinger Francisco Barrios (Dr. Memory) Posted: December 30, 2005 at 08:40 PM (#1800303)
How is it possible that there have been six posts (as I type) since Mr. Tapeworm's and not one has commented on the uber-disgustingness of the fact that a piece of skin from the inside of Abner Doubleday's inner left thigh was found in a refrigerator in the Hall of Fame? I've lost my faith in this site.

I liken it to the Shroud of Turin. It's probably only Freddie Lindstrom's thigh skin.
   22. DCW3 Posted: December 30, 2005 at 08:43 PM (#1800309)
We don't like nothing that ain't Cap Anson. And you ####### kids better get off my lawn!

You mean this Cap Anson?
   23. The Bones McCoy of THT Posted: December 30, 2005 at 11:26 PM (#1800487)
Nothing about nose hair in there. Or ear hair.


Well Joe Torre would be fired if there were.

Best regards

John
   24. salvomania Posted: December 31, 2005 at 02:16 AM (#1800666)
Man, does this guy have selective memory. Long hair, beards and moustaches were all over the place.

He's referring specifically to major league baseball teams of that era, not the general population.

Where his ridiculous memory/reportorial skills fall short is in using Dick Allen with the Phillies as his rude welcome to the world of MLB facial hair; Allen didn't play again with the Phillies until 1975; by that time (as noted above) the "Moustache Gang" in Oakland had won 3 World Chapionships, and this baseball card was three years old:

http://www.sportcardauctions.com/images/1972-topps-reggie-jackson-baseball-card.jpg
   25. salvomania Posted: December 31, 2005 at 04:10 AM (#1800753)
Ted Simmons wore his hair almost down to his ass...

The dude refers to a period beginning in the late '60s... ("In the late 60s...") and continuing into the '70s. My guess is he's referring to that period in America in which common examples of freakishness in society at large had no counterpart in MLB... this was the case until the A's teams of the early '70s, and then only later (like '73 or '74) did the rest of baseball join in, to the degree that it did.

In 1972, Ted Simmons did not wear his hair down to his ass.

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