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Thursday, January 07, 2010

TedQuarters: Berg: Holy crap, Bob Klapisch

Bob & Column & Ted & Malice.

But wait, here comes my favorite part:

The Mets don’t appear to be close to any significant up grades [sic] in their starting rotation, so if they want to improve their run-differential why not maximize their HR quotient by reconfiguring the ballpark?

Differential? Maximize? Quotient? Klapisch must be onto something smart here, right?

Oh, wait. He’s just using big words to shroud the dumbest f@#$ing thing I’ve ever read. Reconfiguring the ballpark around the same crappy pitchers will not alter the home run quotient. Reconfiguring the ballpark will only make those pitchers allow more home runs. Yes, the Mets will hit more home runs, too, but they’ll be yielding more at the same time, since they’ll be playing in the same ballpark as the other team, no matter how it’s configured. Unless Klapisch has some plan in mind for a radical newfangled wall that changes heights between the tops and bottoms of innings, the home run quotient will stay exactly the same.

And then, the kicker:

According to ESPN.com’s park factors that were released Tuesday, Citi was the major leagues’ seventh-easiest place to hit a triple in 2009.

Holy crap, sir. You found your way to ESPN.com’s park factors? While you were there, did you miss the part that showed Citi Field played as a slightly homer-friendly field in 2009? Or, worse, did you see it and think, “meh, it doesn’t really aid my point about how the Mets should move the fences in so they can hit more home runs like the Yankees and Phillies, so I’ll pretend I didn’t see it and cherry-pick this tidbit about the triples”?

I’m done here. There’s more fodder for comedy, but I’m bored with it.

Repoz Posted: January 07, 2010 at 02:29 PM | 15 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
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   1. cercopithecus aethiops Posted: January 07, 2010 at 03:26 PM (#3430620)
Unless Klapisch has some plan in mind for a radical newfangled wall that changes heights between the tops and bottoms of innings...

You know, he just might be on to something here. We have retractable roofs, so the technology for retractable walls should be a piece of cake. And there's even a precedent of sorts -- they used to change the batting eye every half inning at the old Yankee Stadium.
   2. Forsch 10 From Navarone (Dayn) Posted: January 07, 2010 at 03:30 PM (#3430624)
I'd really appreciate it if bloggers would retire the FJM approach to engagement.
   3. David Nieporent (now, with children) Posted: January 07, 2010 at 03:37 PM (#3430629)
The column is stupid, particularly since Klapisch is too lazy and stupid to realize that Citi didn't suppress HR last year, but I think TFA goes overboard. You can tailor your ballpark configuration to fit your talent, without using retractable walls. To pick an extreme example, move the fences back to 500 feet - or in to 300 feet - and in fact you will equalize HR totals between the home team and its opponents.
   4. Bring Me the Head of Alfredo Griffin (Vlad) Posted: January 07, 2010 at 03:49 PM (#3430645)
Unless Klapisch has some plan in mind for a radical newfangled wall that changes heights between the tops and bottoms of innings...


Bill Veeck claims in his autobiography to have had just such a wall at his park in Milwaukee.
   5. 'Spos Posted: January 07, 2010 at 05:25 PM (#3430766)
they used to change the batting eye every half inning at the old Yankee Stadium.


How did they do that?
   6. cercopithecus aethiops Posted: January 07, 2010 at 05:30 PM (#3430775)
How did they do that?

A retractable dark screen that the white-shirted bleacher bums could see through.
   7. Sam M. Posted: January 07, 2010 at 05:40 PM (#3430792)
Well, look. Klapisch's incoherent column isn't it, but a very thoughtful dialog could be had on whether the Mets should do anything about Citi Field's dimensions, and I'm not sure Berg's demolition of Klapisch does much to advance that dialog, either. That "anything" could include the players they target. This could start, but not end with, a discussion of whether the Mets were right in their apparent view that Bay is a better "fit" than Holliday because he is more of a pull hitter, and that this profile better fits Citi Field. And I continue to think that is unintentionally revealing about what they must think about whether David Wright is a "good" fit for the stadium they built -- someone really should have the balls to ask Omar Minaya that question: if Bay is such a great fit, and Holliday wasn't, what does that say about Wright? And on the pitching side, maybe we (and more important, the Mets) should be thinking carefully about what sort of pitchers will thrive in the stadium, and seek to develop/acquire those -- though granted, we really don't have nearly enough data yet to make any confident decisions.

And even if you don't think they should move the fences "in," pe se, that doesn't preclude the possibility of tweaking the dimensions -- you could move the fence in in right-center, which is a true death valley, but also make a compensating change elsewhere, if you wanted to leave the park's overall impact but change something about the way it plays. Maybe the Mets think they have a big advantage right now because Carlos Beltran is more able to patrol that huge CF than opposing defenders (that kind of went out the window much of last year, but it's not a bad idea).

But to me, it's a lot more complex -- and potentially interesting -- discussion than Klapisch being stupid and Berg pointing that out.
   8. Lassus Posted: January 07, 2010 at 05:49 PM (#3430812)
Sam, it's sad that you won't stop beating the drum to shrink the field for one player. I understand why you think so - and to be clear, my understanding is not empathic or sympathetic - and it still bums me out.
   9. McCoy Posted: January 07, 2010 at 05:50 PM (#3430813)
Actually it is possible to alter your stadium to suit you while not really giving a bonus to the opposing team. AS the home team you have the ability to tailor your team to the strengths and weaknesses of your ballpark while opposing teams do not have that ability.

If you have a young rangy catcher you can make the area behind home plate vast and for the most part it isn't like the other teams in the league are going to dump their old catchers just so they can get to a few more foul popups at your stadium. If you have a low contact high strikeout set of pitchers you can make the foul territory small to give a greater benefit to your hitters than to the opposing team's hitters. If you have a short porch you can bulk up on LH pitchers or RH pitchers and hitters as well. SO on and so on.
   10. PreservedFish Posted: January 07, 2010 at 05:57 PM (#3430833)
Perhaps he wanted them to move the outfield fences every half inning.
   11. Sam Hutcheson is the Rickey Henderson of... Posted: January 07, 2010 at 06:42 PM (#3430914)
if Bay is such a great fit, and Holliday wasn't, what does that say about Wright? And on the pitching side, maybe we (and more important, the Mets) should be thinking carefully about what sort of pitchers will thrive in the stadium


Okay. Twist my arm. I'll send you Derek Lowe for David Wright.
   12. Crispix Attacks Posted: January 07, 2010 at 06:47 PM (#3430927)
This blogger has a point, of course, but it's just annoying to use [sic] after things like "up grade" (which I guess should be "upgrade". Thanks, you've made your argument 0.00001% more convincing by pointing out that Plaschke is so dumb that his paper's editor did not consider "up grade" (rather than "upgrade") to be enough of an error that they would make sure to catch it.
   13. Sam M. Posted: January 07, 2010 at 06:56 PM (#3430947)
Sam, it's sad that you won't stop beating the drum to shrink the field for one player. I understand why you think so - and to be clear, my understanding is not empathic or sympathetic - and it still bums me out.

I didn't say "shrink the field," though that is one option. You could retain the overall size, but change the lay-out if you wanted to. I happen to think that is a good idea, because I'm not a particular fan of just rewarding dead pull hitters, but I'm not wedded to it. As I noted, you can make a good case that a large CF actually gives the Mets (at least as long as Beltran is around and healthy) a defensive advantage over most opponents. My point was really just that we can have a more detailed conversation about a ballpark, and how it can be tailored to the home team's personnel (offense and defense), in a way neither Klapisch or Berg seemed interested in.

As for Wright, the best thing he can do is just go back to what he was doing prior to 2009. If it means he hits 55 doubles and 17 homers instead of 40 doubles and 30 homers, so be it. They aren't changing the park, so he should just be himself. His first attempt to adjust to Citi Field by changing his stroke was a bad idea, and the rumors that he's now going to try and be more of a pull hitter in v.2 make me even more nervous.
   14. Flynn Posted: January 07, 2010 at 07:53 PM (#3431017)
Get rid of the stupid notch and call it a day.
   15. Fat Al Posted: January 07, 2010 at 11:20 PM (#3431354)
Get rid of the stupid notch and call it a day.


Amen.

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