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Friday, March 14, 2014

Terry Collins to Ruben Tejada: Shortstop job is all yours

Ruben Tejada went 0-for-3 Thursday and is 1-for-15 in spring training. He made an error on a routine play, his third such miscue in his last five games.

Still, after his day was over, Tejada was told by Mets manager Terry Collins that he will be the team’s shortstop this season.

“I talked to him today about trying to relax a little bit,” Collins said after the Mets’ 7-5 win over the Nationals at Space Coast Stadium. “Quit worrying about things.

“I said, ‘Listen, you’re the shortstop here. Your name and your number are going to be in the lineup. You’ve just got to go be the player we know you can be and you quit worrying about trying to impress everybody. We’ve seen it in the past and two years ago, you were the talk of the town. You had a bad year. Big deal. Forget it. It’s over. Everybody has a [bad] year. Guys that are in the Hall of Fame have had [bad] years. So move on.’ ” ...

General manager Sandy Alderson said only one day earlier that the Mets will “continue to look at what our options may be” at shortstop while evaluating Tejada.

The District Attorney Posted: March 14, 2014 at 02:07 PM | 30 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
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   1. formerly dp Posted: March 14, 2014 at 03:16 PM (#4671779)
Riding him hard didn't seem to be working, so now they're riding him soft. Wonder if this constitutes an admission that their approach last year was not the wisest?

When Alderson arrived, I remember him talking about the gap between Reyes and Tejada as not being large enough to justify spending what Jose would cost to lock up long-term. It really seemed like Tejada's emergence helped with the decision to let Reyes walk. I don't think that was necessarily a bad call, seeing as it did seem like the choice was between Reyes and Wright, given the team's finances, but it's interesting that at one point, Alderson was quite high on Tejeda.
   2. if nature called, ladodger34 would listen Posted: March 14, 2014 at 03:22 PM (#4671783)
I don't think that was necessarily a bad call, seeing as it did seem like the choice was between Reyes and Wright, given the team's finances, but it's interesting that at one point, Alderson was quite high on Tejeda.


I know part of it comes from the Wilpon's Madoff issues, but it seems crazy to me that the Mets would have to choose between Reyes or Wright. Don't get me wrong, there was a time before and during the McCourt years that the Dodgers had similar issues.
   3. formerly dp Posted: March 14, 2014 at 03:36 PM (#4671794)
I know part of it comes from the Wilpon's Madoff issues, but it seems crazy to me that the Mets would have to choose between Reyes or Wright.
It is what it is. Just something to take into account when evaluating Alderson's decision-making process.
   4. cardsfanboy Posted: March 14, 2014 at 03:41 PM (#4671798)
Pete Kozma is available :) .... Not sure what the Mets have to trade though.
   5. The District Attorney Posted: March 14, 2014 at 03:50 PM (#4671808)
I'd rather a Nick Franklin or someone with potential... and I don't hate Tejada and would be fine with him being the SS... but if you ask me to choose between Tejada or Kozma, I'll go Kozma. A top SS glove could be beneficial for the young pitchers.
   6. Conor Posted: March 14, 2014 at 03:50 PM (#4671809)
I'm not entirely convinced Sandy would have thought signing Reyes to 6/106 was a good idea even if the Mets finances were more normal. Maybe that is me being too cynical though, since he just signed Granderson for 4 years at close to the same AAV and he's about to turn 33. It's entirely possible the Mets may not have been getting away with paying Reyes about $16 million for each of the last 2 years, but paying Granderson 15 million a year for ages 33-36 kind of puts into perspective the idea of paying Reyes 16 million a year for ages 29-34.
   7. cardsfanboy Posted: March 14, 2014 at 03:59 PM (#4671815)
I'd rather a Nick Franklin or someone with potential... and I don't hate Tejada and would be fine with him being the SS... but if you ask me to choose between Tejada or Kozma, I'll go Kozma. A top SS glove could be beneficial for the young pitchers.


Another reason is that the Nationals and Braves would hate him...and of course it would also be following in the path of your big brother, the Yankees by acquiring a Cardinal castoff to play short. :)

   8. Never Give an Inge (Dave) Posted: March 14, 2014 at 04:02 PM (#4671819)

I know part of it comes from the Wilpon's Madoff issues, but it seems crazy to me that the Mets would have to choose between Reyes or Wright.

Reyes was my favorite player and I was disappointed when they let him walk, but in retrospect it's hard to be too disappointed with the decision, in light of last year's injury and the apparent dropoff in his fielding.
   9. formerly dp Posted: March 14, 2014 at 04:08 PM (#4671824)
Last year's injury was a freak thing-- just a bad slide. He's going to be back to stealing bases this year, hopefully with a lesson learned, and I don't see why his defense shouldn't be expected to level off. Might be some fanboyism here, but we're all allowed every now and then, yeah?
   10. The Yankee Clapper Posted: March 14, 2014 at 04:11 PM (#4671828)
Ruben Tejada went 0-for-3 Thursday and is 1-for-15 in spring training. He made an error on a routine play, his third such miscue in his last five games.

Another good year for the Mets?
   11. Nasty Nate Posted: March 14, 2014 at 04:30 PM (#4671849)
Speaking of shortstops, there's some quotes from Boras about Drew in this article. I kind of like Boras, but his thoughts on the QO are ridiculous if taken at face value.

Talking about Drew and Morales:
"The system they've been dealt has basically prevented them from free agency,"
"Everybody talks about these players turning down these [one-year] qualifying offers like they're village idiots. The reason is, they don't want to be in the same position again next year. If I'm a good player, I'm going to take the prospect of free agency .... If I'm one of these players, I'm not on the train to free agency -- I'm on the Ferris wheel of multiple qualifying offers."

The next time Boras acknowledges that Drew had COMPLETE AND UNFETTERED free agency just one year ago will be the first. Boras also is pretending not to understand that the players can either choose to get off the 'Ferris Wheel' of QO's by signing a low-salary multi-year contract ... or they can make the most money going year-to-year QO to QO.
   12. cardsfanboy Posted: March 14, 2014 at 04:44 PM (#4671862)
Boras is a tool, but the qualifying offer system is extremely restrictive to free agency.
   13. Mark S. is bored Posted: March 14, 2014 at 04:52 PM (#4671868)
Riding him hard didn't seem to be working, so now they're riding him soft. Wonder if this constitutes an admission that their approach last year was not the wisest?


Or a negotiating tactic in the battle for other shortstops (Drew and/or Franklin) that if the price doesn't come down, they'll stay with Tejada.
   14. formerly dp Posted: March 14, 2014 at 04:56 PM (#4671870)
I dunno, I sort of feel like the ship has sailed on Drew at this point. Franklin, not so much, but he's going to come with a big price tag, and he's not a sure bet to stay at SS.
   15. Nasty Nate Posted: March 14, 2014 at 04:59 PM (#4671872)
Boras is a tool, but the qualifying offer system is extremely restrictive to free agency.


It just depresses the amount of money that free agents get, and does so in an uneven manner.

I know Boras is just trying to shape the public discourse about the QO, but to bring up the lack of freedom is disingenuous, especially when talking about a guy who had free agency a year ago with no draft pick attached.
   16. Conor Posted: March 14, 2014 at 05:04 PM (#4671873)
Reyes was my favorite player and I was disappointed when they let him walk, but in retrospect it's hard to be too disappointed with the decision, in light of last year's injury and the apparent dropoff in his fielding.


The injury last year was a fluke, but it's still fair to say he is an injury risk with all the leg issues he's had. But if he had signed a relatively equal weighted contract, as opposed to the front loaded one the Marlins signed him to, would you rather have him or Granderson? He signed for 16 million on average, say he had 4 years and 68 million left; would you rather the Mets have him at that contract or Granderson at 4/60? I'd rather have Reyes
   17. Johnny Sycophant-Laden Fora Posted: March 14, 2014 at 05:26 PM (#4671883)
I know Boras is just trying to shape the public discourse about the QO, but to bring up the lack of freedom is disingenuous, especially when talking about a guy who had free agency a year ago with no draft pick attached.


Because he sucked in 2012, that's why he did not get a QO, nor did he get a "good offer" (or what he and Boras would deem a good offer)

he was much better in 2013, so if he'd been an unfettered FA this year like last year he would have gotten better offers than he did last year.
   18. Nasty Nate Posted: March 14, 2014 at 05:36 PM (#4671888)

Because he sucked in 2012, that's why he did not get a QO, nor did he get a "good offer" (or what he and Boras would deem a good offer)

he was much better in 2013, so if he'd been an unfettered FA this year like last year he would have gotten better offers than he did last year.


Yes...so? Boras is talking about the players losing the basic right to eventually receive unfettered free agency .... referencing a guy who had unfettered free agency just one year ago. Even Boras isn't trying to claim "unfettered free agency at the exact perfect moment in a player's career" as a basic right.
   19. formerly dp Posted: March 14, 2014 at 05:46 PM (#4671895)
The injury last year was a fluke, but it's still fair to say he is an injury risk with all the leg issues he's had.
Sure. Given the level he's settled in at with the bat, it does look like Reyes is still a good player even if he gives up his running game altogether.
He signed for 16 million on average, say he had 4 years and 68 million left; would you rather the Mets have him at that contract or Granderson at 4/60? I'd rather have Reyes
Reyes. No question. Granderson has injury issues as well.

Reyes over the last three years:
.306/.361/.452/.813 (122 OPS+)

Granderson:
.244/.338/.504/.842 (124 OPS+)
   20. haven Posted: March 14, 2014 at 06:32 PM (#4671907)

Another good year for the Mets?


90 wins i hear......
   21. Lassus Posted: March 14, 2014 at 06:52 PM (#4671915)
I'm a big Tejada booster, and hope he plays well enough to get everyone to STFU about how crappy he is, but at the same time there's almost nothing I could possibly care about less than this story. He plays well, he stays, he plays like crap, he goes. It shouldn't be any more complicated than that.

I still can't figure out what the hell Drew is thinking at this point.
   22. Johnny Sycophant-Laden Fora Posted: March 14, 2014 at 06:59 PM (#4671919)
Even Boras isn't trying to claim "unfettered free agency at the exact perfect moment in a player's career" as a basic right.


what he's complaining/whining about is the system is geared to allow players unfettered free agency when such right has less economic value to the player, but restrict it when unfettered free agency would be more economically valuable to the player.

   23. formerly dp Posted: March 14, 2014 at 07:20 PM (#4671922)
but at the same time there's almost nothing I could possibly care about less than this story.
Tejada's still really young-- he came up young, so it feels like he's older than he is, but I do think there's something to the idea that what's going on inside his head matters, and the org's "all options are on the table, we'll see if Duda can hack SS if we need to" wasn't doing him any favors.
   24. Nasty Nate Posted: March 14, 2014 at 07:36 PM (#4671926)
what he's complaining/whining about is the system is geared to allow players unfettered free agency when such right has less economic value to the player, but restrict it when unfettered free agency would be more economically valuable to the player.


Whether or not that's valid, he's not saying that. He doesn't compare this free agency to Drew's last year - his unfettered free agency is not mentioned by Boras or the author of the article (or Heyman in the Drew puff piece from a few weeks back).
   25. cardsfanboy Posted: March 14, 2014 at 07:37 PM (#4671927)
Tejada's still really young-- he came up young, so it feels like he's older than he is,


That is a big point. Oftentimes people keep expecting the young heralded player to be Griffey/Trout/Harper at the start, and sometimes they are just Yadier Molina and it takes time for them to be truly major league ready.... of course he could have just had an off year that is a result of sample size(just 57 games in the majors last year)
   26. cercopithecus aethiops Posted: March 14, 2014 at 08:07 PM (#4671933)
I still can't figure out what the hell Drew is thinking at this point.


He's thinking that if he waits until after opening day to sign a one year deal, he can't be QO'd again. He's thinking if he waits until June, the draft pick problem goes away.
   27. billyshears Posted: March 14, 2014 at 08:36 PM (#4671936)
The problem with Tejada is that his upside is just a decent MLB shortstop. It's annoying to to waste a lot of time and effort trying to coax a young player to get to be just good enough.
   28. Jim Wisinski Posted: March 14, 2014 at 09:38 PM (#4671967)
Personally I think the issue for players like Drew and Santana* lies more with them demanding contracts in line with their 2013 performance while ignoring recent volatility/sucking. The draft pick factors in somewhat but I really wonder if the biggest effect might be causing them to think "If it wasn't for that darned draft pick compensation I would have any problem getting 5/75 (or whatever it is they were asking)". Without the QO they'd have to face reality about the willingness of teams to pay them but with it they can convince themselves otherwise. These guys are potentially significant upgrades to teams with holes, there's no way that GMs across baseball are going to let a late first round draft pick change their bidding strategy drastically. Santana of course ended up taking essentially the QO value with the Braves but I don't believe for a second that in a market where Jason Vargas and Phil Huges get 3-4 years and $8 million per year a late first round pick will be the deciding factor against giving Santana 3/36 or something like that. He and Drew just wanted more.
   29. Dr. Vaux Posted: March 15, 2014 at 04:59 AM (#4672015)
I'll bet 12 teams would've given Santana 3/$36. That's why the idea that 1/$14.1 is an overpay is so . . . weird.
   30. Jorge Luis Bourjos (Walewander) Posted: March 15, 2014 at 10:13 AM (#4672043)

Is Flores going to make the Mets out of spring training?

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