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Texas Rangers Slugger Joey Gallo Becomes the Ninth Player Since 2015 to Finish a Season with 40 or More Home Runs and Fewer Than 100 RBI

Dunn and Gallo can both be described as “Three True Outcomes” hitters who are most likely to end a plate appearance with either a walk, home run, or strikeout.  However, Gallo may be taking the “Three True Outcomes” hitting style to a new level as he walked 75 times while recording just 94 hits—less than half his 196 punchouts.  Moreover, Gallo’s 94 hits was a new low for a slugger who hit 40 or more home runs.  Not surprisingly, the slugger who held this dubious distinction before Gallo was Dunn with 110 hits in 2012.  Set to turn 24 and having just completed his first full season in 2017, Gallo could have several 40 home run/sub-100 RBI campaigns in his future.

Another unique aspect of Gallo’s 2017 campaign is that the youngster joined Barry Bonds and Mark McGwire as just the third slugger to hit more home runs than singles while still amassing enough plate appearances to qualify for the batting title.  Interestingly enough, Bonds and McGwire accomplished this odd feat during years in which they broke the single-season home run record.

Dennis Eclairskey, closer Posted: October 12, 2017 at 08:21 AM | 17 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
  Tags: adam dunn, joey gallo, oddities, texas rangers, three true outcomes

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   1. BDC Posted: October 13, 2017 at 08:03 AM (#5552973)
A hundred, heck, Gallo barely got to eighty. Only Barry Bonds (2001) has hit more home runs in a season where he had fewer than twice as many RBI as HR. As I've been noting, part of this is clearly Gallo's striking inability to make contact without hitting a HR, but part is good old-fashioned not having a lot of guys on base in front of him. He spent much of the season batting behind Mike Napoli and Rougned Odor, who compiled OBPs of .285 and .252 respectively, a good bit of that on home runs.

TFA calls some of Gallo's stats "dubious" but I'm not seeing it. Gallo drew 75 walks for an OBP of .333 in a .324 league. Walking a lot drives down your RBI total, too, but in a good way. If he does that consistently – if the whole weird equation is sustainable – then he'll be a solid player for some time to come.


   2. TR_Sullivan Posted: October 13, 2017 at 11:55 AM (#5553127)
Gallo had 99 at-bats with runners in scoring position. That ranked 88th in the American League. Albert Pujols led with 174 at-bats with RISP. Pujols hit .264 with RISP while Gallo hit .232.

whatever all that means
   3. snapper (history's 42nd greatest monster) Posted: October 13, 2017 at 12:23 PM (#5553153)
Gallo had 99 at-bats with runners in scoring position. That ranked 88th in the American League. Albert Pujols led with 174 at-bats with RISP. Pujols hit .264 with RISP while Gallo hit .232.

whatever all that means


But Gallo slashed 232/361/535/897 with RISP, so that's pretty damn good. Pujols slashed 264/323/448/771, considerably worse.
   4. Rusty Priske Posted: October 13, 2017 at 02:10 PM (#5553230)
Clearly Gallo isn't clutch.
   5. Fiore Gino Posted: October 13, 2017 at 02:41 PM (#5553271)
TFA compares Gallo to Dunn and it'll be interesting to see how Gallo progresses from here as a hitter. He's young & if he's Dunn 2.0 we'll see more huge HR with low RBI seasons
I also saw where it compares Gallo to a TTO guy with decent fielding in Todd Frazier & a TTO guy who's a fielding liability in Chris Carter. I think Gallo will have a career more similar to Frazier with more power but with a little less defensive value.

I find it intriguing that there were so few seasons of 40 hrs with less than 100 RBI in the past 40 yrs and then suddenly boom now that happen every year
   6. Steve Parris, Je t'aime Posted: October 13, 2017 at 03:19 PM (#5553332)
TFA compares Gallo to Dunn and it'll be interesting to see how Gallo progresses from here as a hitter. He's young & if he's Dunn 2.0 we'll see more huge HR with low RBI seasons

I was going to write that Gallo looks more like Dunn-extreme rather than Dunn 2.0, but they actually had similar seasons at 23. Gallo just slashed 209/333/537 (121 OPS+); Dunn had a 215/354/465 (116 OPS+) line at 23 in fewer games, though this was a bit worse than his prior two seasons. Dunn then went on his 40+ HR streak for five years (with four of those producing 100+ RBIs). Gallo has already started his 40+ HR streak.
   7. DanG Posted: October 13, 2017 at 05:21 PM (#5553473)
Players with 20 HR and no more than twice as many RBI:

Player            HR RBI OPS+  PA Year  Tm
Barry Bonds       73 137  259 664 2001 SFG
Barry Bonds       45  90  231 550 2003 SFG
Joey Gallo        41  80  121 532 2017 TEX
Rob Deer          32  64  145 448 1992 DET
Kyle Schwarber    30  59   99 486 2017 CHC
Jedd Gyorko       30  59  111 438 2016 STL
Curtis Granderson 30  59  113 633 2016 NYM
Matt Olson        24  45  164 216 2017 OAK
Chris Duncan      22  43  140 314 2006 STL
Kevin Maas        21  41  150 300 1990 NYY
Chris Hoiles      20  40  147 371 1992 BAL 
   8. Dennis Eclairskey, closer Posted: October 13, 2017 at 11:19 PM (#5553740)
Very interesting to see three seasons of exactly 30 HR and 59 RBIs in the past two years and those are the only times some one has had less than 60 RBIs with 30 HR

I think Gallo will join Dunn in the category of having multiple 40 HR sub 100 RBI seasons. Aside from Dunn, the other two players with two such seasons are Mickey Mantle & Hank Aaron. I guess having Bobby Richardson leadoff didn't help the Mick's RBI total
   9. Crispix reaches boiling point with lackluster play Posted: October 13, 2017 at 11:49 PM (#5553758)
I remember when Pedro Alvarez was the only player hitting 30+ home runs, striking out 160+ times and never walking. Now everyone has adopted his innovative approach.
   10. ajnrules Posted: October 14, 2017 at 01:06 AM (#5553770)
So far Dunn and Gallo have the two lowest batting averages in seasons with 40 home runs.

Dunn hit .204 in 2012. Gallo hit .209 this year. They both had a .333 OBP.
   11. Fiore Gino Posted: October 14, 2017 at 01:00 PM (#5553828)
I was going to write that Gallo looks more like Dunn-extreme rather than Dunn 2.0, but they actually had similar seasons at 23.

Dunn-extreme, I like that. I'm surprised Dave Kingman never turned the 40 homers with fewer than 100 RBI trick

I see Gallo hit a little better in the second half. Is he the eventual replacement for Adrian Beltre at 3B?
   12. fra paolo Posted: October 14, 2017 at 01:04 PM (#5553832)
Nick Castellanos played on a 98-loss team and got over 100 RBI. This isn't as common as I thought, except during the Sillyball Era (1996-2005), and a brief flourish in 2008-9.
   13. BDC Posted: October 14, 2017 at 01:14 PM (#5553833)
Is he the eventual replacement for Adrian Beltre at 3B?

Gallo is a pretty good athlete, a fast runner and, just from observation, a competent third baseman. The Rangers have also tried him in the outfield a little, where he doesn't look quite as good to me. But I'm hardly a scout or an analyst of defensive metrics.

Whether Gallo will get a few years at 3B depends on the whole roster situation. He mainly looks like a first baseman, because he's so tall and long-legged, and he also played competently there this season for a while. He's Chris Davis redux: a plausible third baseman who could be a pretty good first baseman, and has the bat to be valuable at either position.

Of course the Orioles were never going to play Davis at third once Machado was on the scene, so if the Rangers find their Machado, Gallo would play first. But at the moment the Rangers' top AAA prospect is a first baseman named Ronald Guzman (another tall LHB).
   14. Fiore Gino Posted: October 14, 2017 at 01:32 PM (#5553840)
Thank you, BDC. I also see where TFA says Gallo's defensive metrics weren't too bad considering his .930 fielding pct at 3B. I checked his defensive game logs & he makes errors in clusters so it could be a confidence thing and players go into defensive slumps too
   15. Dennis Eclairskey, closer Posted: October 14, 2017 at 09:01 PM (#5554035)
In addition to Davis, I would kind of liken Gallo to a young Mark Reynolds who never quite was able to handle third base, it'll be interesting to see if Gallo stays at third or gets permanently moved

I wonder if we'll see a 50 HR sub 100 RBIs season soon
   16. Swoboda is freedom Posted: October 15, 2017 at 08:50 AM (#5554305)
I'm surprised Dave Kingman never turned the 40 homers with fewer than 100 RBI trick

That is mostly because he only hit 40 home runs once. He played his peak home run years with the Mets and As. Both of those parks were pitchers parks.He hit between 35 to 37 homers 5 times and only exceeded 100 RBIs one time during those 5 years.
   17. Fiore Gino Posted: October 15, 2017 at 09:21 AM (#5554307)
Good points, Swoboda. Looking deeper at Kingman's career he could've hit 40 HRs with less than 100 RBI in 75 & 76 but he had just 543 & 510 plate appearances in those years. Looking at the table in the article, almost all the players who had 40 HR seasons w/o reaching 100 RBI had 600+ PAs. Gallo is one of the few exceptions, he had just 532 PAs.

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