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Monday, June 19, 2017

The Babe Ruth Epidemic in Baseball – Our Game

The Babe was a one man home run boom.

Jim Furtado Posted: June 19, 2017 at 09:53 AM | 25 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
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   1. eric Posted: June 19, 2017 at 10:06 AM (#5478509)
I haven't finished the article yet, but it's telling that I read the intro and wasn't sure if it was written "today" or in 1921.
   2. ERROR---Jolly Old St. Nick Posted: June 19, 2017 at 10:27 AM (#5478519)
It's from 1921, and it's worth the click if for nothing else than one of the greatest Ruth photos ever taken, with the Polo Grounds grandstand and its 258' RF foul pole beckoning the Bambino like a 10 dollar hooker.
   3. Benji Gil Gamesh VII - The Opt-Out Awakens Posted: June 19, 2017 at 01:35 PM (#5478662)
like a 10 dollar hooker
Looks like $10 in 1921 would be about $125 today. That's obviously not high-end today but is it cheap? I really don't know.

(Unless Andy meant $10 today of course.)
   4. mathesond Posted: June 19, 2017 at 02:58 PM (#5478734)
That's obviously not high-end today but is it cheap? I really don't know.


Asking for a friend?
   5. SandyRiver Posted: June 19, 2017 at 03:18 PM (#5478740)
Fun with numbers - Ruth's 54 in 1920 represented 8.57% of all MLB homers that year, in 2,468 total games. (BBRef shows 630 rather than 629.) The NL (chosen for non-DH) in 2016 hit 2,637 in 2,428 total games. Equaling Babe's 1920 proportion last year would take 226 homers (or 230 if corrected fro games played.)
   6. The Yankee Clapper Posted: June 19, 2017 at 03:19 PM (#5478742)
Looks like $10 in 1921 would be about $125 today.

$10 in June 1921, the date of the article, would be worth $139.05 in May 2017, the most recent month for which data is available, according to the the BLS Inflation Calculator.
   7. ERROR---Jolly Old St. Nick Posted: June 19, 2017 at 03:41 PM (#5478754)
like a 10 dollar hooker

Looks like $10 in 1921 would be about $125 today. That's obviously not high-end today but is it cheap? I really don't know.

(Unless Andy meant $10 today of course.)


Hmmmmm, well I guess it'd depend on whether he was eyeballing this one or these three for a menage a quatre.
   8. Bote Man Posted: June 19, 2017 at 03:59 PM (#5478760)
Maybe science will come up with an injection that will put a stop to this epidemic!!11!
   9. RMc and the Respective Punishments Posted: June 19, 2017 at 04:15 PM (#5478767)
one of the greatest Ruth photos ever taken, with the Polo Grounds grandstand and its 258' RF foul pole beckoning the Bambino

Now my desktop wallpaper.
   10. ERROR---Jolly Old St. Nick Posted: June 19, 2017 at 07:26 PM (#5478874)
BTW while that article was from The Literary Digest, its author (F.C. Lane) was an editor of Baseball Magazine, and one of the most influential writers of the deadball and early lively ball era. His Batting may be the most interesting book on hitting ever published, as it contains batting tips and analysis from over 250 hitters and pitchers of that era.

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one of the greatest Ruth photos ever taken, with the Polo Grounds grandstand and its 258' RF foul pole beckoning the Bambino

Now my desktop wallpaper.


The Van Buren photo of Ruth right below it is pretty amazing, too, since it shows him at 25, before his waistline expanded to about a 44.
   11. Hank G. Posted: June 20, 2017 at 12:58 AM (#5478992)
$10 in June 1921, the date of the article, would be worth $139.05 in May 2017, the most recent month for which data is available, according to the the BLS Inflation Calculator.


Too bad the Calculator only goes back to 1913. In 1839, Abraham Lincoln went to a prostitute who was going to charge him $5. Lincoln only had $2 on him, and refused the lady’s offer of credit. I’m wondering what that $5 would be worth today.
   12. Hank G. Posted: June 20, 2017 at 01:01 AM (#5478995)
It's from 1921, and it's worth the click if for nothing else than one of the greatest Ruth photos ever taken, with the Polo Grounds grandstand and its 258' RF foul pole beckoning the Bambino like a 10 dollar hooker.


I know it’s the perspective of the photograph, but that fence looks as though it is barely past the infield.
   13. Hank G. Posted: June 20, 2017 at 01:05 AM (#5478996)
The Van Buren photo of Ruth right below it is pretty amazing, too, since it shows him at 25, before his waistline expanded to about a 44.


Ruth had kind of a funny build, with a barrel chest, but he was definitely a top physical specimen when he first played in the majors. To me, that’s one reason the movies about him are so bad. They cast fat guys who are fatter than Ruth ever was, rather than casting someone who looks like Ruth did early in his career.
   14. PreservedFish Posted: June 20, 2017 at 01:41 AM (#5478998)

$10 in June 1921, the date of the article, would be worth $139.05 in May 2017, the most recent month for which data is available, according to the the BLS Inflation Calculator.


How much for the Ever-Ready Safety Razors - 6 for 40 cents?
   15. Khrushin it bro Posted: June 20, 2017 at 01:57 AM (#5479002)
Any comps for Ruth's looks? That face and body require some post production work.
   16. Joyful Calculus Instructor Posted: June 20, 2017 at 03:08 AM (#5479003)
Looks like that's about the going rate for 30 minutes with a Caucasian prostitute in Amsterdam. https://www.quora.com/How-much-do-prostitutes-charge-in-the-Red-Light-District-of-Amsterdam

I can't find anything on the rates in the US.
   17. ERROR---Jolly Old St. Nick Posted: June 20, 2017 at 08:15 AM (#5479018)
It's from 1921, and it's worth the click if for nothing else than one of the greatest Ruth photos ever taken, with the Polo Grounds grandstand and its 258' RF foul pole beckoning the Bambino like a 10 dollar hooker.

I know it’s the perspective of the photograph, but that fence looks as though it is barely past the infield.


That may be because it was.

Dusty Rhodes hit a walkoff home run in game one of the 1954 World Series, which was also played in the Polo Grounds. When the ball came off the bat, the second baseman (Bobby Avila) sprinted back after it, thinking it was within his range. You can see it in the video. The Indians' Vic Wertz, who two innings earlier had hit a 460 ft. out to centerfield, was not amused.
   18. RMc and the Respective Punishments Posted: June 20, 2017 at 08:28 AM (#5479020)
In 1839, Abraham Lincoln went to a prostitute who was going to charge him $5. Lincoln only had $2 on him, and refused the lady’s offer of credit. I’m wondering what that $5 would be worth today.

$126.91.

The problem with inflation calculators is that it doesn't account for the fact that there's so much more money in the economy these days. I'll bet there's a much larger percentage of the population in 2017 with access to $126 than there were people in 1839 with access to a fiver.

Anyway, we need a "whore inflation" tag.
   19. TomH Posted: June 20, 2017 at 08:31 AM (#5479024)
re: people who might look like Ruth -- I recently finished reading "Babe Ruth and the 1918 Red Sox"; a book published some time ago, pre-2004. In it was a photo of a teenage/perhaps 20-yr old Ruth working back at his dad's bar in the offseason. Now, can we agree that Ruth's mugshot is truly distinctive; more easily recognizable than most? Well, in this picture, I'd swear his dad was exactly a 40-yr old Ruth, minus a few pounds. Ruth's father is the ONLY person I've seen who actually could be mistaken for the Babe himself. Maybe I shouldn't be that surprised, but I was floored when I saw the picture.
   20. ERROR---Jolly Old St. Nick Posted: June 20, 2017 at 10:21 AM (#5479072)
Yeah, that photo has been around forever, and every time it gets published people notice the same thing you did. It's hard to think of a father-son combination who look more alike than George and Jidge, especially in that photo where they're wearing identical vests, shirts, and aprons. The only slight difference is that George wasn't quite as portly at 40 as Jidge was to become 20 years later.
   21. Harmon "Thread Killer" Microbrew Posted: June 20, 2017 at 11:25 AM (#5479116)
https://www.si.com/mlb/photos/2014/07/11/rare-photos-babe-ruth

Bar pic can be seen there. Tremendous resemblance.
   22. Harmon "Thread Killer" Microbrew Posted: June 20, 2017 at 11:28 AM (#5479122)
Rare photos of Babe Ruth

Bar photo can be found in that SI slideshow. Tremendous resemblance.
   23. What did Billy Ripken have against ElRoy Face? Posted: June 20, 2017 at 11:30 AM (#5479127)
Interesting - in the third photo down, he's a lefthanded catcher for St. Mary's, but in the team photo above it he has the catcher's mitt on his left hand and a mask in his right hand.
   24. ERROR---Jolly Old St. Nick Posted: June 20, 2017 at 12:21 PM (#5479166)
Interesting - in the third photo down, he's a lefthanded catcher for St. Mary's, but in the team photo above it he has the catcher's mitt on his left hand and a mask in his right hand.

That's almost certainly because lefthanded catchers' mitts had yet to make their way to a Catholic orphanage in the slums of Baltimore. Even in that third photo you mention, you can't tell that it's not the standard issue righthanded model.

And FTR the last lefthanded catcher in the Majors with a significant number of games retired after the 1900 season.
   25. Hank G. Posted: June 20, 2017 at 03:22 PM (#5479355)
https://www.si.com/mlb/photos/2014/07/11/rare-photos-babe-ruth

Bar pic can be seen there. Tremendous resemblance.


Heh. His father looks more like the Babe than the young Babe does. Another father/son pair that was like that was the actors Alan Hale Sr./Jr.

You’re probably never going to get an actor who resembles Ruth facially. Even as a very young man, his face looks much older. He had that wide mouth and the very wide nose. It’s understandable (from a physical POV) why he was insulted by other teams by implying (actually it was much more than that) that he had African ancestry.

But they could try to get an actor who was athletic, with a similar build and coloring, and who could present the sheer joy of being alive that Ruth seemed to have. Once Ruth left St. Mary’s, he treated life like an all you can eat buffet, and he was determined to get his money’s worth.

There have been movies about Nixon and Kennedy where the actors only superficially looked like the president they were playing, but with good acting you forget that quickly.

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