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Monday, April 16, 2018

The Bonkers Game That Probably Shouldn’t Have Been

In the end, we saw the Braves jump out to a 10-2 lead and feature a 99.4% chance of winning the game as late as the seventh inning. Despite adding a few runs, the Cubs’ win probability was still just 2.0% in the eighth after Efren Navarro whiffed to record the inning’s second out. Nine two-out runs later, Chicago’s probability of losing was just 2.6%.

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   1. bunyon Posted: April 16, 2018 at 01:45 PM (#5654646)
I turned it off just after Bryant's walk in the 8th. Had no idea until I saw this headline. Damn.
   2. Moses Taylor, aka Hambone Fakenameington Posted: April 16, 2018 at 02:14 PM (#5654675)
Will read the piece later, and maybe it covers this, but the weather for Sunday was predicted to be worse and it was the Braves only trip to Chicago this year. It's just easier to make up 1 game (and they did cancel yesterday's game, and now today's against the Cards), than a DH.


The Baez hit was a big one, but other than that, it was just small little anti-climatic things that kept getting the Cubs closer and closer. I couldn't imagine being a fan on the other side of a game like this one.
   3. McCoy Posted: April 16, 2018 at 02:22 PM (#5654683)
My GF called me on Firday and said, "Hey, the Braves are playing the Cubs. We should go to a game." My reply was that I believe they were in Chicago. FF to Saturday and after Trailfest! in Marietta we get home and I realize that the Cubs will actually be televised in my area. I check out Google and they tell me it is 10-10 in the 8th so I turn the game on and see what looks like a chapter out of Moby Dick. Winds ripping through the park, rain falling heavily, and everybody looking like they are freezing to death. It took me a few minutes to realize that the "large crowd" behind home plate was only about 2 or 3 rows deep and the rest of the park was mostly empty. I then see them tack on 4 more runs in the most little league ways possible.

I don't think I've ever seen any batter ever call time because the wind and rain was just whipping around too hard and they wanted to huddle up and try to outlast it. Contreras getting hit by that foul tip had to hurt like hell. I wonder how far off the mark the pitchers had to aim to hit their locations. In the bottom of the 8th and in the 9th it certainly looked like neither side could really deal with it well and the ump ended up making some questionable calls to move the game along.
   4. McCoy Posted: April 16, 2018 at 02:24 PM (#5654686)
I recall the canceled game in wast it 2003 or 2004 against the Cardinals in which I think Eli Marrero tore some ligaments and went on the DL for a game that no longer exists. If I recall correctly that game was also a high scoring game with the ball whipping around in the breeze and the outfielders having an almost impossible time catching anything which I think led to Eli getting injured.
   5. Barry`s_Lazy_Boy Posted: April 16, 2018 at 02:27 PM (#5654693)
The piece mentions the Baez hit being an outlier in that it resulted in a double, but didn't mention the defensive alignment. The SS appears shifted towards 3B, while the CF is shifted towards right-center. Just a huge hole in left-center.
   6. Panik on the streets of London (Trout! Trout!) Posted: April 16, 2018 at 02:33 PM (#5654696)
The sea was angry that day, my friends.
   7. Zonk Sits on the Stool next to Slats Steely Posted: April 16, 2018 at 03:01 PM (#5654718)
Like most folks, I turned off the game around 9-1 -- figuring I had enough of the annoyance of this frustrating team for the day...

I did - via methods I won't go into because I did not have express written consent - have a buddy record the replay (CSN usually rebroadcasts games at odd hours) and watched it Sunday and I gotta say... it's about as, well, unexciting as a late 8 run comeback can be. Other the Javy double, it was all walk, error, walk, walk, walk.

Always fun to rally from 8 runs down, but this has to be at the very bottom of exciting 8 run comebacks.

Now this one - I still remember... that was a fun 8 run comeback, featuring key hits from three future managers in the Cubs lineup that day.
   8. SouthSideRyan Posted: April 16, 2018 at 03:03 PM (#5654721)
Baez's ball also went from IF dirt to the wall about as fast as I've ever seen.
   9. SouthSideRyan Posted: April 16, 2018 at 03:14 PM (#5654730)
That Astros comeback is my first vivid Cubs memory.

I was thinking about this one though. The Cubs had given up, pulling their starting catcher and 1B after 5 innings.
   10. Zonk Sits on the Stool next to Slats Steely Posted: April 16, 2018 at 03:19 PM (#5654736)
Oh yeah - that Colorado one was another good one.
   11. McCoy Posted: April 16, 2018 at 03:33 PM (#5654742)
No love for the 9/11/98 game? Heading into that game with the Brewers the Cubs were tied with the Mets for the WC spot. Mike Morgan was his usual self and his replacement did little better. The two of them coughed up 12 runs in just under 7 innings of work. By the bottom of the 5th the Cubs were down by 8 runs and by the bottom of the 7th they were down 7 runs. They would go on to win with a 3 run home run in the bottom of the 9th to win the game. The very next day the Cubs put up a 6 spot in the third and are winning 8-3 heading into the 6th. They'd give up 7 runs over the next 4 innings and again would require a home run in their last at bat to win the game. If the Cubs don't come back from that game in which they trail Brewers by 8 they don't get to the one game playoff. If they fail to comeback from the game where they blow a 5 run lead they don't go to the playoff either.
   12. Tom Nawrocki Posted: April 16, 2018 at 03:35 PM (#5654744)
I remember that Astros game too - I was still living in Chicago then, and listened to the end of it driving home from work.

Paging BDC: Jerome Walton had the ultra-rare 4300 box-score line in that game. He scored after a HBP, reaching on an error, and a walk.
   13. dlf Posted: April 16, 2018 at 04:11 PM (#5654760)
the ump ended up making some questionable calls to move the game along

Very small strike zone early with Contreras showing up the ump several times; very big one starting after the Moylan WP.

Baez's ball also went from IF dirt to the wall about as fast as I've ever seen.

The way that thing hydroplaned out to the wall reminded me of games on the plastic turf of the 70s.
   14. Walt Davis Posted: April 16, 2018 at 04:49 PM (#5654793)
Yep, the Javy double rocketed along the "ground." I was surprised the ump didn't call it after 6 or after 7 when the rain really picked up. It's an official game, they should have called it a day although I'm glad they didn't.

Played a 16-inch softball game once -- well part of one. It poured for like 20 minutes, then cleared. Ump put us on the field when it started raining again. Everything was water-logged. My brother pitching, he could barely grasp the ball -- a soaked 16-inch softball is a bit like a water balloon. Walked a dozen guys or so. Whenever they hit the ball, it was impossible to field -- I dropped at least one throw to first, our OFs dropped at least half of what was hit to them.

So we're down about 20-0 when we finally get to bat. On the way to the OF, each of their OFs fell on his ass jogging to his spot. Their pitcher couldn't grasp the ball either and walked our first batter on 4 not even close. THEN the ump calls the game.
   15. Davo cant be eatin thirty hot dogs every day Posted: April 16, 2018 at 05:22 PM (#5654807)
My go-to example of a game that never should have been played is 4-17-14, Jays vs Twins in Minnesota.

Game 2 of a doubleheader that was played in a snowstorm and, like the OP, this featured a huge comeback in the 8th inning because no one could throw a strike anymore due to the conditions.

The Twins scored 6 runs in that 8th inning, on:

8 walks
3 wild pitches
2 stolen bases
1 single
   16. Batman Posted: April 16, 2018 at 05:23 PM (#5654809)
We had a Little League game scheduled after a rain storm had left the home plate area under a couple of inches of water. The drunks who acted as coaches and umpires in our league decided to pour gasoline around that area and burn the water off. The cops showed up and shut it down before anybody died but before we found out how well it would work. They used to post the results of games on the side of the concession stand, and it said that day's games were postponed due to police activity.
   17. McCoy Posted: April 16, 2018 at 05:55 PM (#5654824)
Was this in Naperville?
   18. McCoy Posted: April 16, 2018 at 05:59 PM (#5654828)
Here is the game in which Eli Marrero was lost for 6 weeks because of the weather conditions in Chicago. The Cubs were losing 11-9 through 4 innings. 7 home runs were wiped off the board because of that cancellation including a Pujols grand slam.
   19. Batman Posted: April 16, 2018 at 06:01 PM (#5654830)
It was in suburban Chicago, so it's close enough that our drunks (or one of the Little League kids who grew up to become a Naperville drunk) may have been involved. Mine was about 18 years before that one.
   20. Howie Menckel Posted: April 16, 2018 at 10:16 PM (#5655008)
I once played in a high school golf match in frigid/monsoon conditions.

On the first hole, I take off my winter gloves to hit my second shot - and it was so windy that the gloves were blown up into the air and straight into a lake. uh oh.

I wanted a combat medal after finishing 9 holes and shooting a good 15 shots higher than I normally did. I figured that was universal - until I caught up with my teammates. Every one of them shot nearly the same score as usual, those bastards.....

we now resume our regularly-scheduled softball drunks program
   21. Walt Davis Posted: April 16, 2018 at 11:15 PM (#5655035)
Saw a Durham Bulls game once (old park I think) after about a week or so of heavy rain. Field was still soaked, to the extent there was a big puddle in the LF corner. Played the game anyway, stuck some cones around the puddle and I think they said anything hit into the puddle was a ground rule double. I'm pretty sure nobody did cuz my memory is being disappointed that nobody did. Javy would have found the puddle.
   22. Tulo's Fishy Mullet (mrams) Posted: April 17, 2018 at 08:03 AM (#5655085)
We had a high school invitational played in windy snowy conditions, I never took my winter gloves off. Medalist was an 84. I took a 12 on a par 5, eventually hitting a ball off a still frozen pond. I was trying to break 100. High School golf in WI. Cant get a tee in the ground w/o a tap hammer.

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