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Wednesday, March 04, 2009
(ahem)...Interesting stuff from Tango and even more in the Comments section.
Friend of The Book RJ Anderson made a post at 6AM this morning about Longoria probably having the best rookie season for 3B of all time. Less than 2 hours later, Repoz linked to it, where people noticed that Dick Allen was conspicuous by his absence. Rob Neyer undoubtedbly read that thread, did his own research and by noon (no timestamp on his post, but there are on his commenters) noted how Longoria’s Win Shares was simply unimpressive for RJ to have made such a statement. RJ took note of the comments and research and said “I completely missed Allen for reasons mentioned above. Inexcusable on my part.”.
Now, THAT is how blogging works: one big community that listens to each other, even though we are not part of the same family. Furthermore, the “weight” of each blogger is implicitly noted. Neyer for example is highly respected, and he reads a fairly-well respected aggregator of news and blog activity (Primer) that is driven by a well-respected blogger (Repoz) who himself probably has some respect of DRaysBay or RJ. So, the “peer” determination is community-credentialed, much the way that Google’s search engine works. For example, if alot of people link to Tangotiger.net when they talk about “Linear Weights”, then a search for “Linear Weights” on Google will give you Tangotiger.net, even though no one has come out and explicitly credentialed my site as an expert on the topic. (Checking now… yup, my site comes in at #1. Yay! Wonder if I should put that on my tombstone.) The entire dynamics of the blogging world is fascinating on many levels.
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1. JRVJ (formerly Delta Socrates) Posted: March 04, 2009 at 07:12 PM (#3092408)P.S. I see that there was a follow-up blog post from Neyer and that all is well.
Never mind.
I can't imagine he's ever been described quite that way before.
Can you point to an example?
I read it when you sent me the link before; I thought it was a well-done article, particularly in terms of detail and sequencing. However, it did not answer my main questions about Bowie Kuhn, which are: Was he on steroids? Did he regularly hook up with call girls?
But those will be answered in the bio, you said.
I was having a hard time copying text on yours a few minutes ago, Tom. Was it just me? I'll admit it may be, but I haven't had that trouble anywhere else.
Your reputation for self-love is much commented on, Larry.
In slightly different words.
No one will buy the cow if milk is free, rr.
At least the threads appear on time.
So you're saying that Kuhn had a thing for cattle?
I have felt, perhaps unfairly, that baseball bloggers are happy to take down a print reporter but don’t mention other bloggers or like-minded internet writers except to link to them and agree with them. I tend not to trust people who agree with anyone (especially me) all the time.
The next (first?) blogger who writes the words “Joe Posnanski was wrong today when he wrote ...” will have my respect. I say this as a big JoePo fan, which is sort of my point.
Here you go.
That's a great site, Jon. Why do they never get linked to here?
Good point, Mark. Personally speaking, I find it hard to take a lot of jabs at Posnanski because so much of what he writes is sheer opinion, he tends to be aware of when he’s walking on thin ice, and inserts much in the way of self-deprication along the way. I am quick to attack morons, but I give a pretty wide berth to people cursed with self-awareness, even if I disagree with them somewhat.
Not that it’s any excuse, of course. No one enjoys silly blogger wars, but sometimes it is a bit too chummy on this end of the blogosphere. No one has ripped me a new one lately either, and frankly, I think I’m overdue.
Take it to the Piazza thread.
Ironically, I just complimented your work on the Bonds thread.
I have no idea. We do talk about the NeL on occasion here. I also think that Ashwill is a HOMie. I mainly know of him through Simkus.
I discovered that site when I was reasearching how many Negro Leaguers were pitcured on baseball cards. They are very even handed and I'm amazed by how tenacious they can be trying to answer a question they have. It's good stuff.
Jon, I look forward to your Kuhn book, much as I look forward to the late DFW's unfinished novel about IRS employees. If you can make that interesting, you're doing something. :-)
But on the article, the only thing I found sort of confusing was that you jumped from how Bowie Kuhn wanted to be remembered straight into the narrative on the failed Cuban tour. Maybe if it was a fragment lifted straight from the book, that would explain the seeming lack of context, but if you were showing how his efforts to internationalize the game had not been fulfilled, I don't think the failed Cuban tour alone is enough to do that. Again, there might be some context I'm missing, but at least as a standalone article, I thought the first two paragraphs could have been bridged with a mention of some of his other (failed or successful) efforts to internationalize the game, then launch into "one of his initiatives that did not succeed. . ." or the like.
This might be much more than you wanted or appreciated, but it is sincere.
Mark: you obviously don't spend any time at the same blogs that I do. I can point you to any number of threads on my site, depending if you want to see me take friendly jabs, to out-and-out throwing punches in the gut (but above the belt). And, I'd say this is the case in a good majority of blogs I see.
Here's a mild example of me disagreeing with The Poz.
And a medium-level example of my disagreeing with Joe Sheehan.
That's actually what I was looking for. I'm just looking to write a good book proposal right now, but I need some sample chapter excerpts. I picked that little episode because it hasn't really been written about too often. I've got another one comparing him to Rozelle and some other commissioner types from that time. That should come out soon.
Rich -- my list of past failings would turn your piece into a seven or eight-part opus of CraigFailure. Why don't you just start with my love life, my legal career, my exercise regimen, and my baldness, and work from there.
When are you going to make your site iphone compatible? I can read it on the iphone, but if I try to post anything it gets lost in cyberspace.
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