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Baseball Primer Newsblog— The Best News Links from the Baseball Newsstand
Wednesday, August 20, 2008
It’s that time of year again! Fans Scouting Report fever…Catch It! (you know Johnny Damon won’t)
It’s the 6th Annual Fans’ Scouting Report.
Every year, I get a jump in participation, from the first year where I had close to 500 ballots, to last year where it exceeded 2000 ballots. If you’ve enjoyed my blog, appreciated my work, or somehow wondered what you could do in return, this is it. All I ask from you is 5-10 minutes of your time, and we’ll call it even. And, if you have a blog, please, spread the word.
...I know only of gushing reports about the fielding of Paul Blair. Mickey Stanley sounds like some cross between Darin Erstad and Endy Chavez. That is based on the writings of the generation that preceded me. In my generation, I can only attest to the fielding prowess of Gary Pettis. The new generation knows as little about Pettis, as I know of Blair and Stanley. When the next generation comes along, I want to be able to point them to the Fans Scouting Report as the contemporaneous view of the fielding talents of Ichiro and Rolen. And Manny and Dunn. We can breathe life into their fielding accomplishments.
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1. Cris E Posted: August 20, 2008 at 02:41 PM (#2909974)Fill in the defensive metric:
defensive efficiency
fielding percentage
range factor
zone rating (ZR)
revised zone rating (RZR)
UZR
/snark
I've always loved this exercise. And for my purposes (can the guy catch, how's the arm, etc) it's about as accurate as the uber-detailed, three decimal place metrics available elsewhere.
It would be interesting to see if you did this survey with, say, fans at a ballgame, if the results would be appreciably different. If they were similar, that would be good evidence that the results are not thus contaminated.
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Black: there's no question of possible bias, though the bias wouldn't really be a "tango-reader" bias. The main feeder into the survey are readers of team-specific blogs. For the last two years, I've been hitting SB Nation blogs.
My guess is that most of those readers aren't even aware of UZR and its sisters, much less what the UZR is of their players in the last couple of years.
Even if they were, I'm asking for 7 specific traits that would, ideally, try to separate their overall view of a player into 7 distinct values.
Even if you think let's say that Adam Dunn is a bad hitter, if I start asking you about 5 hitting traits he has and how good/bad he is, you may not necessarily be clouded by your own bias.
That said, bias will always exist, just as it exists in batting and pitching stats themselves. We just do our best to account for it, and increase our uncertainty levels around those numbers.
In any case, even if there are issues, this is still a very valuable endeavor, providing information that as far as I know is not available elsewhere. Keep up the good work!
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