Baseball for the Thinking Fan

Login | Register | Feedback

btf_logo
You are here > Home > Baseball Newsstand > Baseball Primer Newsblog > Discussion
Baseball Primer Newsblog
— The Best News Links from the Baseball Newsstand

Saturday, September 08, 2012

The Grammarphobia Blog: Analyzing sabermetrics

Fire Philip Babcock Gove

Q: Should the term “sabermetrics” be reserved for baseball? Although it has “baseball” in its title, the term has been used in basketball for some time and is now entering the world of football.

Despite the etymology of “sabermetrics,” we say yes. We think the term has outgrown its roots, so it can apply to statistical analysis in other sports. In fact, sportswriters and bloggers are already using “sabermetrics” in this broader way.

Lexicographers haven’t caught up to this newer usage, though. That’s no surprise, since “sabermetrics” has only recently made it into dictionaries.

The American Heritage Dictionary of the English Language didn’t include the word until the new fifth edition was published in the fall of 2011.

...We should note that in the broad sense, “sabermetrics” is used with a singular verb (as in “sabermetrics is a valuable tool”). But it’s used with a plural verb when it means the statistics themselves (“his sabermetrics are promising”).

The word played a big role in Michael Lewis’s book Moneyball (2003), which was about the Oakland Athletics’ use of sabermetrics. A film of the same name, as you probably know, was released last year.

No doubt “sabermetrics” will always be strongly identified with baseball. But while we don’t have any statistical analysis to back us up, we’ll bet that dictionary definitions will someday reflect a wider usage that includes other sports.

Repoz Posted: September 08, 2012 at 01:43 AM | 8 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
  Tags: history, sabermetrics

Reader Comments and Retorts

Go to end of page

Statements posted here are those of our readers and do not represent the BaseballThinkFactory. Names are provided by the poster and are not verified. We ask that posters follow our submission policy. Please report any inappropriate comments.

   1. bobm Posted: September 08, 2012 at 02:01 AM (#4230009)
"Sabermetrics" should be reserved for fencing. :)
   2. PreservedFish Posted: September 08, 2012 at 02:31 AM (#4230016)
But it’s used with a plural verb when it means the statistics themselves (“his sabermetrics are promising”).


Never heard this. Don't like it.
   3. The Long Arm of Rudy Law Posted: September 08, 2012 at 08:14 AM (#4230060)
Q: Should "sabermetrics" be reserved for baseball.

A: Yes, it can apply to other sports.

This blogger spends too much time with spreadsheets in his mother's basement and not enough time watching real conversations.
   4. Betts, Bogaerts, and D Price(GGC) Posted: September 08, 2012 at 02:14 PM (#4230255)
I think athletometrics might be better. But that is mixing Latin and Greek.
   5. Graham & the 15-win "ARod Vortex of suck" Posted: September 08, 2012 at 02:48 PM (#4230284)
I thought the study of advanced basketball stats was referred to as APBRmetrics.

Wiki
   6. Betts, Bogaerts, and D Price(GGC) Posted: September 08, 2012 at 04:18 PM (#4230357)
I have seen advanced football stats referred to as pframetrics.
   7. Zach Posted: September 08, 2012 at 04:53 PM (#4230376)
I've heard cagermetrics for basketball stats, which is a pretty cool name. Still, I think sabermetrics will end up being the generic term.
   8. Nats-Homer-in-DC Posted: September 09, 2012 at 08:19 AM (#4230826)
Sabermetrics is code for nerd among sports writers. Hence its use to describe basketball dorks, football geeks and hockey dweebs.

You must be Registered and Logged In to post comments.

 

 

<< Back to main

BBTF Partner

Support BBTF

donate

Thanks to
Los Angeles El Hombre de Anaheim
for his generous support.

Bookmarks

You must be logged in to view your Bookmarks.

Hot Topics

NewsblogEduardo Rodriguez sent to Triple A after another Red Sox loss | Boston Herald
(9 - 11:09am, Jun 28)
Last: Jose Remains The Most Absurd Thing on the Site

NewsblogOTP 2016 June 27: Republican comeback after eight years? Yeah, on the baseball diamond
(321 - 11:07am, Jun 28)
Last: Ray (RDP)

NewsblogJose Reyes must demonstrate sincere remorse in return to Mets - NY Daily News
(78 - 11:06am, Jun 28)
Last: Joe Bivens, Floundering Pumpkin

NewsblogKris Bryant has historic 3-homer, 2-double win | MLB.com
(16 - 11:05am, Jun 28)
Last: Graham & the 15-win "ARod Vortex of suck"

NewsblogOT: 2016 Summer Soccer Thread
(1160 - 10:56am, Jun 28)
Last: The_Ex

NewsblogNoah Syndergaard denies reports he has bone spur after short start | Yahoo Sports
(2 - 10:53am, Jun 28)
Last: JJ1986

NewsblogOut of Prison, Pitcher Relishes a Second Chance With the Rangers - The New York Times
(21 - 10:50am, Jun 28)
Last: A Fatty Cow That Need Two Seats

NewsblogPrimer Dugout (and link of the day) 6-28-2016
(4 - 10:49am, Jun 28)
Last: Jefferson Manship (Dan Lee)

Newsblog40 years ago, Mark (The Bird) Fidrych was 'some kind of unbelievable'
(21 - 10:31am, Jun 28)
Last: winnipegwhip

NewsblogNotes: Oakland needs to refrain from breaking up the band
(11 - 10:26am, Jun 28)
Last: zonk

NewsblogTexas Rangers Reaction for Monday June 27, 2016 | The Star-Telegram
(6 - 10:17am, Jun 28)
Last: SoSHially Unacceptable

NewsblogOT: NBA Playoffs Thread 2016
(6138 - 10:16am, Jun 28)
Last: J. Sosa

NewsblogYasiel Puig or Jeff Francoeur?
(8 - 9:10am, Jun 28)
Last: Batman

NewsblogOMNICHATTER 6-27-16
(113 - 9:06am, Jun 28)
Last: Yeaarrgghhhh

NewsblogWhy Mark McGwire would make a great manager someday | FOX Sports
(6 - 9:05am, Jun 28)
Last: Best Dressed Chicken in Town

Page rendered in 0.2224 seconds
47 querie(s) executed