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Friday, October 26, 2012

OT: The Hurricane Sandy/“Frankenstorm” Thread

No World Series omnichatter today, but there’s the whole fact that there’s a Hurricane/“Frankenstorm” headed towards the East Coast Megalopolis, which, uh, a lot of us live in or near. So discuss that here and, above all else, stay safe.

Gamingboy Posted: October 26, 2012 at 03:36 PM | 678 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
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   1. James Newburg is in awe of Cespedes' CORE STRENGTH Posted: October 26, 2012 at 04:44 PM (#4284508)
Welp, the wife and I are in Providence and we're moving on Wednesday. I'm selfishly rooting for Sandy to stay on its mid-Atlantic course.
   2. RoyalsRetro (AG#1F) Posted: October 26, 2012 at 04:54 PM (#4284523)
I won't believe this is a real thing until I see a Weather Channel reporter standing dangerously close to a storm, making a fool of himself.
   3. Gamingboy Posted: October 26, 2012 at 05:03 PM (#4284529)
Who was it last time (Irene) who kept talking about how everything was going to be fine and that it was all overblown and was generally making fun of everybody, even as people were drowning in Vermont? Ah, who was it....
   4. Jose Can Still Seabiscuit Posted: October 26, 2012 at 05:13 PM (#4284540)
Who was it last time (Irene)


To give this a baseball theme the Boston Red Sox played a split admission doubleheader against Oakland the day Irene arrived. It took awhile but both games were played and the Sox won both. This was on August 27, 2011. That was the last time the Sox won two consecutive games until April 13-14, 2012 as they performed their spectacular collapse.
   5. Crispix reaches boiling point with lackluster play Posted: October 26, 2012 at 05:18 PM (#4284546)
Who was it last time (Irene) who kept talking about how everything was going to be fine and that it was all overblown and was generally making fun of everybody, even as people were drowning in Vermont? Ah, who was it....

RDP wrote about 50 posts a day for a week talking about how ridiculous it was for anyone to evacuate NYC, because no matter how likely it seemed based on all available meteorological data, it was ridiculous to think that something that hadn't happened recently could happen. Then another 50 posts a day for the following week crowing about how smart people were who didn't leave NYC, because instead of the unprecedented instance of a hurricane hitting NYC, there was the equally unprecedented instance of a hurricane hitting Freehold, New Jersey. What kind of idiot would have failed to realize that the storm was going to move slightly to the left in its last couple hours before landfall? Yet another triumph for the principles of ignoring all evidence that doesn't come in a sufficiently impressive sample size.
   6. catomi01 Posted: October 26, 2012 at 05:34 PM (#4284559)
Last year was 5 days without power for me (Long Island) - what are the odds of it happening again/over under on how long we are out if we are?
   7. Misirlou is on hiding to nowhere Posted: October 26, 2012 at 05:54 PM (#4284571)
School down here was cancelled today, due to tropical storm force wind gusts. The storm center is about 200 miles away from me right now, and we still have winds 25 gusting to 30. If the wind field stays that large when it makes landfall, it's going to affect a LOT of people.
   8. The Id of SugarBear Blanks Posted: October 26, 2012 at 06:02 PM (#4284582)
I'm sick of the new climate. Please give me the old one back.
   9. McCoy Posted: October 26, 2012 at 06:11 PM (#4284590)
If I recall most of the East Coast wasn't really inconvenienced all that much by Irene.
   10. Gamingboy Posted: October 26, 2012 at 06:28 PM (#4284599)

If I recall most of the East Coast wasn't really inconvenienced all that much by Irene.

Tell that to the people who's houses got washed away.
   11. McCoy Posted: October 26, 2012 at 06:32 PM (#4284603)
Okay.
   12. Los Angeles El Hombre of Anaheim Posted: October 26, 2012 at 06:38 PM (#4284607)
I'll be flying into DC tomorrow afternoon. Not the best week for a vacation in the District, I take it.
   13. DJS and the Infinite Sadness Posted: October 26, 2012 at 06:45 PM (#4284611)
Tell that to the people who's houses got washed away.

Isn't this getting a little overwrought? Yes, several dozen people dying with people losing their homes and Hurricane Irene generally being overhyped are not mutually exclusive. Most of those deaths weren't even preventable by evacuation, generally trees falling over or people touching fallen wires far inland.
   14. TVerik, the gum-snappin' hairdresser Posted: October 26, 2012 at 06:50 PM (#4284617)
Seven days without power here in bucolic CT last year. Massive inconvenience, but the only real lasting damage was that one of my trees didn't make it.

I have a basement shelf full of dry goods, batteries, lanterns, etc.
   15. Never Give an Inge (Dave) Posted: October 26, 2012 at 06:50 PM (#4284618)

In my neighborhood of Manhattan Irene was pretty much a non-event. We stayed in on Saturday night, woke up on Sunday morning and there were a few trees down and broken windows, but nothing worse than that. I went running along the Hudson River both mornings.
   16. STEAGLES is all out of bubblegum Posted: October 26, 2012 at 06:54 PM (#4284622)
RDP wrote about 50 posts a day for a week talking about how ridiculous it was for anyone to evacuate NYC, because no matter how likely it seemed based on all available meteorological data, it was ridiculous to think that something that hadn't happened recently could happen. Then another 50 posts a day for the following week crowing about how smart people were who didn't leave NYC, because instead of the unprecedented instance of a hurricane hitting NYC, there was the equally unprecedented instance of a hurricane hitting Freehold, New Jersey. What kind of idiot would have failed to realize that the storm was going to move slightly to the left in its last couple hours before landfall? Yet another triumph for the principles of ignoring all evidence that doesn't come in a sufficiently impressive sample size.
in fairness, if everyone in NYC tried to evacuate at the same time, they'd probably all die in the streets anyway. as long as there are people like ray, at least you can cut down on the congestion a little bit.
I'm sick of the new climate. Please give me the old one back.
yeah, that's not happening. unless there's a gamechanger in climate sciences, we're ######. even if we, as a country, acknowledged the scale of the problem and committed to immediately cutting carbon emissions to 0, the rapid increase in carbon emissions in the rest of the world -- specifically brazil, russia, india, and china -- means that such an action would be less than a drop in a bucket.

people like to talk about how we're nearing a tipping point, but personally, i think we passed it ~20 years ago. if you've ever cooked a piece of meat, you know that it doesn't stop cooking when you take it out of the over. there's a carryover effect, where it continues cooking even after it's removed from the heat. basically, if you take a piece of meat out when it's rare, the carryover means that it'll be medium-rare when it gets to the table. using that as a guide, i think our environment right now is medium/medium-well, and even if we took it off the heat (ended carbon emissions), the carryover effect would continue to drive an increase in global temperatures.

so essentially, we are past the point where prevention is an option, and right at the point where remediation is a necessity.
   17. McCoy Posted: October 26, 2012 at 06:54 PM (#4284625)
I'll probably pick up some dry goods on Sunday. Oreos, pita chips, cereal, . . .
   18. TVerik, the gum-snappin' hairdresser Posted: October 26, 2012 at 07:03 PM (#4284638)
There's one thing that people ought to know, and this can be massively convenient or inconvenient in a power outage situation: is your water gravity-fed or electrically-fed? If it's the latter and your utility loses power, you can't flush toilets or take showers.

If you live in an apartment situation or if there's a water tower in your town, you're probably safe. I'm in neither of those situations, and I'm oddly safe.
   19. McCoy Posted: October 26, 2012 at 07:09 PM (#4284643)
I would think the real issue is the potability of your water.
   20. TVerik, the gum-snappin' hairdresser Posted: October 26, 2012 at 07:11 PM (#4284645)
That's true enough, but if it isn't gravity-fed, you'll need to drag water into the house some other way if you want to flush your toilets.
   21. Harveys Wallbangers Posted: October 26, 2012 at 07:20 PM (#4284653)
one plus of being in the country. 3 large underground tanks of fuel, generators and my own well

and guns. ammunition. do my own shotgun shells

fruit cellar. canned goods from here to there.

assorted supplies including meds. lost power too many times not to be ready

   22. Harveys Wallbangers Posted: October 26, 2012 at 07:21 PM (#4284654)
steagles

nned to have more faith in humanity. folks will surprise you

   23. STEAGLES is all out of bubblegum Posted: October 26, 2012 at 07:22 PM (#4284655)
That's true enough, but if it isn't gravity-fed, you'll need to drag water into the house some other way if you want to flush your toilets.
you could try filling the bathtub with water, prior to any potential power-outage. then all you need is a bucket, so you can refill the upper tank after every flush, and you should be good for a couple of days.
   24. Harveys Wallbangers Posted: October 26, 2012 at 07:25 PM (#4284656)
also have lots of liquor

medicinal of course
   25. Steve Treder Posted: October 26, 2012 at 07:31 PM (#4284659)
also have lots of liquor

medicinal of course


One can never be too careful.
   26. Gamingboy Posted: October 26, 2012 at 07:44 PM (#4284663)
Just realized this: Had the WS involved East Coast teams I'm sure that the grounds crew at Miller Park would be getting prepared right now. Just in case.
   27. Biff, highly-regarded young guy Posted: October 26, 2012 at 08:25 PM (#4284682)
If I recall most of the East Coast wasn't really inconvenienced all that much by Irene.

I made an ill-fated attempt to drive through Vermont about a month after Irene. That was inconvenient, though clearly my fault for not actually checking to see if the roads I wanted to use were back in service.
   28. Walt Davis Posted: October 26, 2012 at 08:44 PM (#4284691)
Regarding water ... the big problem is if your local water/waste treatment plant gets rocked or not. When Fran hit the Triangle, I could have kept flushing toilets except the water department asked everybody not to seeing as how they had been hit hard and the sewage treatment wasn't back online yet.

It was a bit of a surreal experience for me. My power went out about midnight so I went to bed. Next morning, no trees down by me (mostly young ones near me so not surprising). Phone still worked (not surprising). I called the power company, got through pretty quickly (surprising), they said my power would be back on in the afternoon (somewhat surprising but I lived near the fire/police and water stations. I called my office at the university, my answering machine (those were the days!) picked up which meant power was on at the university. I assumed everything was pretty much fine and decided I might as well go into the uni until my power was back on.

That's when I encountered all the trees and power lines down. Still made it into campus, ###### around on the web, found out they were asking people to not go out on the streets (a bit late, sorry!), went home to a house with power. Poor ol' me I had to live without cable for two days!!

On the wonderfulness of humanity I learned one thing: Apparently, when approaching an intersection without working traffic lights, the rules of the road say you should proceed as if yours is green. Or at least that's how almost everybody acted.

Beyond that, yes, people are generally helpful but you can get some frayed nerves at the grocery stores when they reopen.
   29. TVerik, the gum-snappin' hairdresser Posted: October 26, 2012 at 08:55 PM (#4284694)
On the wonderfulness of humanity I learned one thing: Apparently, when approaching an intersection without working traffic lights, the rules of the road say you should proceed as if yours is green. Or at least that's how almost everybody acted.



I'm reasonably sure that you treat it like a blinking yellow; if you're on the main thoroughfare, go on through. But pay attention to it.

That said, I don't know why they don't just do a modification of traffic light design so that if they lose power, they run off an internal battery and blink yellow for awhile.

When we lost power last year, my wife and I listened to a lot of right-wing talk radio because that's all there was to do with our days. Someone proposed the most sensible law I can think of, compelling gas stations above a certain size to own and maintain a generator. They were immediately, violently smacked down by the free-market idiots.
   30. Rafael Bellylard: A failure of the waist. Posted: October 26, 2012 at 09:52 PM (#4284719)
On the wonderfulness of humanity I learned one thing: Apparently, when approaching an intersection without working traffic lights, the rules of the road say you should proceed as if yours is green. Or at least that's how almost everybody acted.


I drive for a living, and have thought it was just a Florida thing. When I lived in California, people seemed to obey the law regarding intersections with traffic lights out. In Florida, it's a flippin' free-for-all.

Conversely, in California traffic on highways only slows to a crawl because of traffic congestion or accidents. In Florida, a 65MPH zone suddenly grinds down to 20 if someone on the side of the road is changing a tire. And that's all lanes, not just the one next to the shoulder.
   31. base ball chick Posted: October 27, 2012 at 12:20 AM (#4284756)
weird how the east coast and NYS keeps getting all these hurricanes. they can have em
our last one was ike and that was bad enough - completely wiped out the astros, although i guess you could say they died a lingering and painful death

houston evacuated for hurricane rita and that was a mess beyond belief

didn't hardly nobody evacuate for ike because of all the hysteria over rita not paying off, so of course it was a disaster and fortuately, the hurricane didn't go up the wrong side of the ships channel. all we have to do is have a hurricane go up the east side - or is it the west side of the ship channel and the coty of houston will be worse off than nawlins in katrina

we ALWAYS keep supplies because youneverknow. especially clean water. and yeah, fill the tubs full of water before the storm about to hit because you gonna need it

fortuantely i got NO idea what to do for a hurricane with snow and i hope i don't nevah find out. they sayin that wall street gonna be under water. wonder if all those subways can get flooded and if they do how do they clean em out?
   32. Steve Treder Posted: October 27, 2012 at 01:04 AM (#4284766)
I drive for a living, and have thought it was just a Florida thing. When I lived in California, people seemed to obey the law regarding intersections with traffic lights out. In Florida, it's a flippin' free-for-all.

Conversely, in California traffic on highways only slows to a crawl because of traffic congestion or accidents. In Florida, a 65MPH zone suddenly grinds down to 20 if someone on the side of the road is changing a tire. And that's all lanes, not just the one next to the shoulder.


Thus proving the profound superiority in intelligence of the average Californian over the average Floridian.

As though any was needed.

;-p
   33. Jim Wisinski Posted: October 27, 2012 at 01:05 AM (#4284767)
School down here was cancelled today, due to tropical storm force wind gusts. The storm center is about 200 miles away from me right now, and we still have winds 25 gusting to 30. If the wind field stays that large when it makes landfall, it's going to affect a LOT of people.


Here in the St. Petersburg area we've been getting whipped with pretty steady 25+ winds all day.

On the wonderfulness of humanity I learned one thing: Apparently, when approaching an intersection without working traffic lights, the rules of the road say you should proceed as if yours is green. Or at least that's how almost everybody acted.


A couple months ago I came to an intersection around here where the lights were completely out and it was two major streets. I was shocked at how rationally everybody handled it; everyone on one of the streets was going through and then when there was a break in the traffic everyone on the other street started going forward slowly, establishing the new flow of traffic, and all the drivers on the first street stopped and allowed us to go through (cars in the turn lanes edged forward and turned when they had a chance). Then as I looked behind me I saw that once all the cars on my street had gone through the pattern repeated itself. It was bizarrely well-handled.
   34. Gamingboy Posted: October 27, 2012 at 01:25 AM (#4284775)
Current projections seem to indicate it will land somewhere between Delaware and Long Island.
   35. Walt Davis Posted: October 27, 2012 at 01:43 AM (#4284785)
I don't know why they don't just do a modification of traffic light design so that if they lose power, they run off an internal battery and blink yellow for awhile.

I've wondered if you could put a small solar panel on top of them that could power them during the day and maybe store some too. I have seen what appear to be such setups for some roadside signs on highways.
   36. Gamingboy Posted: October 27, 2012 at 05:32 AM (#4284800)
Good news!

It's lost a few MPH and is now technically a tropical storm!
   37. 'zop sympathizes with the wrong ####### people Posted: October 27, 2012 at 07:59 AM (#4284809)
36 - it's not good news. Pressure dropped several mb overnight and the earlier phase/extrop transition increases the chances for an earlier, further south landfall around cape may that pretty much maximizes damage.

---resident BBTFer with earth science background.
   38. bunyon Posted: October 27, 2012 at 08:21 AM (#4284813)
That's when I encountered all the trees and power lines down. Still made it into campus, ###### around on the web, found out they were asking people to not go out on the streets (a bit late, sorry!), went home to a house with power. Poor ol' me I had to live without cable for two days!!

I slept on campus - power went out at home, figured I could get some lab work done. I ended up sleeping on campus for 8 days.
   39. Swoboda is freedom Posted: October 27, 2012 at 08:33 AM (#4284814)
It's lost a few MPH and is now technically a tropical storm!

Are they going to rename the storm Barry Zito?
   40. 'zop sympathizes with the wrong ####### people Posted: October 27, 2012 at 09:09 AM (#4284821)
Sandy is intensifying rapidly. Pressures have dropped to 957mb and winds have increased back to Cat-1 Hurricane force. This intensity is stronger than predicted by any of the models so far. Interestingly, other observations suggest that Sandy has also become more warm-core (tropical) as it has intensified, which was somewhat unexpected.

This is a worrying development. The computer models, unanimously, are showing a landfall pressure b/w 930 and 950mb. This would be the strongest landfalling cyclone in the Northeast/Mid-Atlantic since 1938. The assumption from the NWS/NHC is that the storm will be significantly weaker than the modeled intensity, because computer models have a tendency to over-intensify tropical cyclones that are transitioning to extratropical cyclones (see, e.g., Hurricane Isaac, forcast to be down in the 940s as it passed NYC; actual verification ~965mb). If the modeled intensities are accurate, this will be a major, potentially Ike/Katrina/Andrew type natural disaster.
   41. BDC Posted: October 27, 2012 at 09:49 AM (#4284838)
most of the East Coast wasn't really inconvenienced all that much by Irene

But that was the thing: right on the coast, it wasn't all that bad. My dad lived, at the time, a few miles in from the Jersey shore, not far from where the storm made land, and it wasn't bad near him at all. It was in places a day or two later, and far inland, in New England and upstate New York (as several have noted above), where winds and then flooding were way more than inconvenient. The "East Coast" is a big place, and a storm that doesn't do much damage in Atlantic City or New York can wreak hell elsewhere.
   42. hokieneer Posted: October 27, 2012 at 10:06 AM (#4284843)
After having drove through a Derecho a few months ago and being without power for 7 days, I really hope the predicted 5 days of wintery mix is not that bad. I'm sure the Appalachian infrastructure is probably hanging be a thread in places.
   43. 'Spos lost the handle trying to make the transfer Posted: October 27, 2012 at 10:32 AM (#4284856)
The "East Coast" is a big place...


Long Island is a big place. The north & south shores had different experiences.
   44. Jolly Old St. Nick Still Gags in October Posted: October 27, 2012 at 10:40 AM (#4284857)
Sandy is intensifying rapidly. Pressures have dropped to 957mb and winds have increased back to Cat-1 Hurricane force. This intensity is stronger than predicted by any of the models so far. Interestingly, other observations suggest that Sandy has also become more warm-core (tropical) as it has intensified, which was somewhat unexpected.

This is a worrying development. The computer models, unanimously, are showing a landfall pressure b/w 930 and 950mb. This would be the strongest landfalling cyclone in the Northeast/Mid-Atlantic since 1938. The assumption from the NWS/NHC is that the storm will be significantly weaker than the modeled intensity, because computer models have a tendency to over-intensify tropical cyclones that are transitioning to extratropical cyclones (see, e.g., Hurricane Isaac, forcast to be down in the 940s as it passed NYC; actual verification ~965mb). If the modeled intensities are accurate, this will be a major, potentially Ike/Katrina/Andrew type natural disaster.


That's exactly the take I got from wading through those weather reports. The fact that the existing storm has been temporarily reclassified downward is actually a bad sign, not a good one. The biggest unanswered question for those of us on the East Coast right now is exactly where the ground zero point of the damage is going to be located. The last I looked it was likely to be New York City / Long Island / New Jersey, but it could be anywhere from the Chesapeake region all the way to New England.

And as I've said in the political thread, this could be an enormous factor in the election for several reasons, ranging from the candidates' reactions to the federal government's response to the potential to affect the turnout in swing states in the Northeast and midwest that are hit the worst. Hard as it is to believe, it may be a factor that's even more important than POLL BIAS!
   45. Gamingboy Posted: October 27, 2012 at 10:55 AM (#4284860)
36 - it's not good news. Pressure dropped several mb overnight and the earlier phase/extrop transition increases the chances for an earlier, further south landfall around cape may that pretty much maximizes damage.

---resident BBTFer with earth science background.


I actually sort of suspected this and was sort of saying "Good News" in a a darkly ironic Prof. Farnsworth kind of way.
   46. McCoy Posted: October 27, 2012 at 11:02 AM (#4284863)
The "East Coast" is a big place,

Thus "much of the east coast. . . "
   47. You Know Nothing JT Snow (YR) Posted: October 27, 2012 at 11:20 AM (#4284869)
Presumably this is all divine punishment for failing to stone homosexuals. Either that or Halloween, doesn't god hate Halloween?
   48. snapper (history's 42nd greatest monster) Posted: October 27, 2012 at 12:00 PM (#4284894)
Either that or Halloween, doesn't god hate Halloween?

It's the vigil of All Saints Day, so my God doesn't hate Halloween.
   49. Heinie Mantush (Krusty) Posted: October 27, 2012 at 04:35 PM (#4285087)
@40/'zop:

So, I live on the UWS. There are plenty of trees nearby. What should I be doing right now?

EDIT: Saw "Grace" this afternoon. That was fun.
   50. Gamingboy Posted: October 27, 2012 at 05:26 PM (#4285146)
Neat Site at NYT estimates your chance of receiving Trop-Storm levels of wind. For me, for example, it's in the 20-percents, despite being quite inland.

(Detroit has 2%)
   51. McCoy Posted: October 27, 2012 at 05:29 PM (#4285150)
You gonna trust that liberal rag?
   52. BourbonSamurai Is a Lazy Nogoodnik Posted: October 27, 2012 at 05:41 PM (#4285161)
Still pretty nice outside in D.C...
   53. McCoy Posted: October 27, 2012 at 05:44 PM (#4285164)
Should stay that way for quite awhile.
   54. 'zop sympathizes with the wrong ####### people Posted: October 27, 2012 at 06:53 PM (#4285214)
Very interesting press conference by Bloomberg just now. Spinning the storm like NBD and saying the impact is expected to be worse to the south, where the storm is making landfall. Of course, this is scientifically untrue (based upon current predictions); the storm is currently forecast to make landfall in central NJ and that would put Ground Zero for the worst damage right over NYC. The weather boards (and there are weather boards just like this baseball board) are lighting up like a christmas tree with baffled folks, laymen and meterologists alike.

There's a good argument, given the quality of the buildings in NYC, that Zone A shouldn't be evacuated even if it's going to flood, but talking down the forecast worst storm in 100 years is really bizzare.

Forecast for NYC is currently 4-8 foot storm surge (Irene peaked at a shade under 5ft) and 70-80mph wind gusts. Basically akin to the December 1992 Nor'Easter, but slightly stronger across the board.
   55. villageidiom Posted: October 27, 2012 at 07:55 PM (#4285268)
Of course, this is scientifically untrue (based upon current predictions); the storm is currently forecast to make landfall in central NJ and that would put Ground Zero for the worst damage right over NYC. The weather boards (and there are weather boards just like this baseball board) are lighting up like a christmas tree with baffled folks, laymen and meterologists alike.
Were this Italy, perhaps in a year or so they'd find Bloomberg guilty of manslaughter for this.
   56. The Yankee Clapper Posted: October 27, 2012 at 08:48 PM (#4285330)
Bloomberg "nannies" everyone about a few ounces of soda, but downplays a major hurricane?
   57. asinwreck Posted: October 27, 2012 at 09:18 PM (#4285371)
I need LaGuardia undelayed Wednesday. The forecast indicates that is likely.
   58. McCoy Posted: October 27, 2012 at 10:09 PM (#4285446)
Unless the storms cancel all flights Monday and Tuesday which would turn the airports and skies into gridlock on Wednesday.
   59. Misirlou is on hiding to nowhere Posted: October 27, 2012 at 10:26 PM (#4285480)
Actually have some minor flooding down here. October full moon tides coupled with 25 knots (still!) of wind, means water levels are about 3 feet higher. Just came back from a party at a friend's house, and there was about 3 inches of salt water on the roads.
   60. Rafael Bellylard: A failure of the waist. Posted: October 27, 2012 at 10:52 PM (#4285532)
Here in Orlando, Sandy has been much ado about nothing. Overcast with very little rain and some very occasional wind gusts.

I hope the rest of the country is equally lucky.

   61. Famous Original Joe C Posted: October 27, 2012 at 11:14 PM (#4285596)
I'm in DC with the girlfriend to watch a friend run the Marine Corp Marathon tomorrow. Problem is, we live in Boston, and are supposed to fly back Monday at 7:30 am (yeah, right!). I booked two tickets on Amtrak today for Wednesday afternoon if we can't get on a plane before then. Also lucky in that we have friends we can stay with here. I imagine Wednesday will be an epic shitshow at the airports - I don't see any reason to see otherwise. Wish me luck, I guess?
   62. zenbitz Posted: October 28, 2012 at 12:17 AM (#4285709)
United already cancelled our monday flight out of la guardia.
   63. Tulo's Fishy Mullet (mrams) Posted: October 28, 2012 at 12:44 AM (#4285721)
Yeah, my client said don't even bother coming this week.....I was supposed to go on Wed evening to HPN.
   64. Ray (RDP) Posted: October 28, 2012 at 11:18 AM (#4285834)
I live in Manhattan and I haven't made a single preparation for the storm, nor will I. Even if it's the worst storm NYC has seen in 100 years, what am I supposed to do about it? Make a run on toilet paper and flashlights and batteries and canned goods? If people don't already have those things, fine, but I guaranfuckingtee you that 99% of people stampeding the stores for these things have those things already.

If you don't live in the city, if you live in a coastal area, if you live in a house, then obviously you need to make preparations. Otherwise, no.
   65. Avoid running at all times.-S. Paige Posted: October 28, 2012 at 11:27 AM (#4285843)
NYC Subway shut down at 7 pm tonight.
   66. Random Transaction Generator Posted: October 28, 2012 at 11:43 AM (#4285853)
So how thankful is MLB that the World Series wasn't NY vs Washington?
   67. Jolly Old St. Nick Still Gags in October Posted: October 28, 2012 at 11:46 AM (#4285856)
DC is supposed to be getting 4"-6" of rain with wind gusts up to and over 60MPH. The only consolation I can think of is that the leaves on the many trees in our back yard are mostly on the ground already, and hopefully won't catch as much wind as they would have a few weeks ago. We've had one tree fall onto our roof in 2010, another fall in the yard in 2009, a large branch drop through the roof like a javelin and dangle right between a bookcase and the TV in 2005, and another tree fall into our yard from the yard of a neighbor's property behind us in 2010. The neighbor to our right had to trim a Tower of Pisa tree that was leaning over our house, and we had to cut down a tree that had split and was dangling over the property of the neighbor to our right. There are times when I wish we were back in a nice 2 bedroom apartment in the city.
   68. Yonder Alonso in misguided trousers (cardinal) Posted: October 28, 2012 at 12:10 PM (#4285881)
NYC Subway shut down at 7 pm tonight.


Just saw that. On NY1 just now they said that someone at the MTA said that the subway will reopen "12 hours after the storm ends", which is pretty nebulous as predictions go.
   69. Jose Can Still Seabiscuit Posted: October 28, 2012 at 12:24 PM (#4285892)
One of the great aspects about a predicted storm like this is the excuse to stay inside. Rather than running errands all day today I just sitting around doing a little cleaning, doing a little cooking and taking it easy.
   70. villageidiom Posted: October 28, 2012 at 12:40 PM (#4285905)
I live in Manhattan and I haven't made a single preparation for the storm, nor will I. Even if it's the worst storm NYC has seen in 100 years, what am I supposed to do about it?
Let's say NYC loses power for a week. You have enough cash on hand to last through inoperable ATMs, useless bank computers, dead credit card readers, etc.? Then you can probably put up with the other effects.
   71. McCoy Posted: October 28, 2012 at 12:54 PM (#4285924)
Does sitting at a sports bar count as preparing for the storm?
   72. TerpNats Posted: October 28, 2012 at 12:56 PM (#4285927)
What if the damage is such that many polling places (or equipment) remain unusable on election day? Is there a plan B to allow states to change to a new date? (Remember, primaries in New York state were slated for Sept. 11, 2001, and they were rescheduled for a few weeks later in the wake of the WTC disaster.) This havoc could make the 2000 election look like a walk in the park.
   73. McCoy Posted: October 28, 2012 at 12:56 PM (#4285928)
I seriously doubt nyc is going to lose power for a week. If it does there is bigger things to worry about than eating.
   74. Avoid running at all times.-S. Paige Posted: October 28, 2012 at 01:05 PM (#4285935)
Does sitting at a sports bar count as preparing for the storm?


If you're drinking the hard stuff, then yes.
   75. GregD Posted: October 28, 2012 at 01:07 PM (#4285937)
If the whole city goes down for a week, it will be Mad Max time! But I can imagine that some areas will be out. Can't imagine that happening in much of Manhattan (other than Washington Heights/Inwood which has outages all the time.)

The only thing I can imagine really going wrong in higher-level areas in Manhattan is a backup of delivery of new supplies to stores. Our deli on the corner has a generator and won't close no matter what, but what happens once they sell out? How long will it take for their supply lines to get back up and running? Not long but I could imagine a day or two.
   76. zenbitz Posted: October 28, 2012 at 02:04 PM (#4286000)
Ray, if i cant get back to queens tonight, can i crash on your couch? Oh plus wife and 8 year old?

/kidding i have a few places we can go.
   77. 'zop sympathizes with the wrong ####### people Posted: October 28, 2012 at 02:04 PM (#4286001)
Much of lower manhattan could be out for 7-10 days if surge is as bad as forecast.

Manhattan as a whole is unlikely to lose power for more than 1-2 days.

My buying today was for non-perishable foods, Ray, which you should buy too.
   78. Yonder Alonso in misguided trousers (cardinal) Posted: October 28, 2012 at 02:09 PM (#4286003)
I got back from the supermarket half an hour ago. It was crowded, and the lines were long, but they moved quickly, and the market was still pretty well stocked. I'm on the upper east side though, where things will most likely be better than southern NYC. (Though you never know, they way they're talking about it.) My office is in lower Manhattan though, although north of Tribeca by a block or so, so I might end up having to work from home for a while. The office is closed tomorrow anyway (but the trains are shut down tomorrow regardless, so.)
   79. Blastin Posted: October 28, 2012 at 02:30 PM (#4286019)
I live just north of the UES (and just north of a random Zone A, which is uninhabited anyway - school and parks). Party at my place all day tomorrow if anyone feels like walkin'. :)
   80. McCoy Posted: October 28, 2012 at 03:26 PM (#4286051)
I had a convention cancel so I'm off the next four days. If it gets bad i know where 500 cases of water is located and several tons of food is nearby. I'm not worried.
   81. Gamingboy Posted: October 28, 2012 at 03:42 PM (#4286065)
Looks like it'll hit NJ first. Atlantic City, to be more specific. Going to do a number to the boardwalk, I figure.
   82. Heinie Mantush (Krusty) Posted: October 28, 2012 at 03:58 PM (#4286081)

I live just north of the UES (and just north of a random Zone A, which is uninhabited anyway - school and parks). Party at my place all day tomorrow if anyone feels like walkin'. :)


Baseball Mogul is *definitely* going to get a workout this week.

Party on the UWS, y0! We loaded up on lox because, you know, practicality.
   83. STEAGLES is all out of bubblegum Posted: October 28, 2012 at 04:10 PM (#4286088)
I got back from the supermarket half an hour ago. It was crowded, and the lines were long, but they moved quickly, and the market was still pretty well stocked. I'm on the upper east side though, where things will most likely be better than southern NYC. (Though you never know, they way they're talking about it.) My office is in lower Manhattan though, although north of Tribeca by a block or so, so I might end up having to work from home for a while. The office is closed tomorrow anyway (but the trains are shut down tomorrow regardless, so.)
i hit up wal-mart last night. the bread shelves were bare, and the water was cleared out, but i caught them as they were restocking, so i got lucky there.

i also picked up a can of powdered gatorade (it's got what plants crave), and way too few cliff-bars, at least if this actually turns into a hurripocalypse.


   84. Blastin Posted: October 28, 2012 at 04:17 PM (#4286094)
Baseball Mogul is *definitely* going to get a workout this week.


Your avatar failed to make it to the WS again in 2024, sir.
   85. Ray (RDP) Posted: October 28, 2012 at 06:55 PM (#4286210)
Breaking... the CVS on 72nd and West End Ave is out of shaving blades.

Because I know the first thing I think of doing when I think the world is ending is shave.
   86. Ray (RDP) Posted: October 28, 2012 at 06:57 PM (#4286211)

If I recall most of the East Coast wasn't really inconvenienced all that much by Irene.

Tell that to the people who's houses got washed away.


Note the word "most" in the sentence you responded to.
   87. Heinie Mantush (Krusty) Posted: October 28, 2012 at 07:06 PM (#4286216)
@85/Ray, since you're also on the UWS, it's a shame you didn't see the line to get into Trader Joe's today. It snaked!

@Blastin:
...Wait 'til next year!


So, pulling a reverse-DiPerna, is it worth it to duct tape the windows? I've got trees near my windows! TREES!
   88. Misirlou is on hiding to nowhere Posted: October 28, 2012 at 07:10 PM (#4286218)
Unbelievably, I still have 30+ knots of wind and the storm is over 700 miles away from me. Coupled with the highest high tides of the year tonight and tomorrow night, there's going to be flooding. As I said last night, my friend's street had 3 inches of salt water on it, and tonight will probably be worse. My boat lift is up as high as it will go, and my boat is about 6 inches from floating off.
   89. Misirlou is on hiding to nowhere Posted: October 28, 2012 at 07:11 PM (#4286219)
So, pulling a reverse-DiPerna, is it worth it to duct tape the windows?


If that is a serious question, the answer is no.
   90. Avoid running at all times.-S. Paige Posted: October 28, 2012 at 07:13 PM (#4286221)
Misirlou, are you out at sea? Um, I'm pretty sure that's an evacuation zone. Be safe!
   91. Misirlou is on hiding to nowhere Posted: October 28, 2012 at 07:15 PM (#4286222)
I'm in Florida.
   92. McCoy Posted: October 28, 2012 at 07:16 PM (#4286223)
Stopped off at my local grocery on my home from the bar today. The bread aisle was pretty barren but thankfully apparently nobody but me likes potato bread as there were tons of loaves of that. Out of light soy milk so I had to get regular soy milk and all the cheap club soda was gone. Didn't look to see what the water aisle looked like. Store was mildly busy but seemed well stocked.
   93. Ray (RDP) Posted: October 28, 2012 at 07:27 PM (#4286228)
I heard about the Trader Joe's line - which was just to get inside. No thanks.

Even the potato bread was out at the store I went into. So for the second year in a row these idiots prevent me from making a sandwich.
   94. Random Transaction Generator Posted: October 28, 2012 at 07:30 PM (#4286230)
Even the potato bread was out at the store I went into. So for the second year in a row these idiots prevent me from making a sandwich.


You know, if there was a proper wealth distribution system set up in the US, someone would have had to give you a couple slices of potato bread, and you could have made a sandwich.
   95. Misirlou is on hiding to nowhere Posted: October 28, 2012 at 07:30 PM (#4286231)
So for the second year in a row these idiots prevent me from making a sandwich.


Maybe you should have been prepared.
   96. STEAGLES is all out of bubblegum Posted: October 28, 2012 at 07:32 PM (#4286232)
Unbelievably, I still have 30+ knots of wind and the storm is over 700 miles away from me. Coupled with the highest high tides of the year tonight and tomorrow night, there's going to be flooding. As I said last night, my friend's street had 3 inches of salt water on it, and tonight will probably be worse. My boat lift is up as high as it will go, and my boat is about 6 inches from floating off.
have you tried rope?
Stopped off at my local grocery on my home from the bar today. The bread aisle was pretty barren but thankfully apparently nobody but me likes potato bread as there were tons of loaves of that. Out of light soy milk so I had to get regular soy milk and all the cheap club soda was gone. Didn't look to see what the water aisle looked like. Store was mildly busy but seemed well stocked.
my money would be on the store having just restocked that bread.
   97. franoscar Posted: October 28, 2012 at 07:37 PM (#4286237)
Here in West-Central Michigan (an hour North of Grand Rapids) we have a wind advisory Monday evening & all day Tuesday.

So do places south of here (like Lafayette Indiana) where the drought was more severe & I wonder if the trees that were weakened by the drought will be more likely to come down. Yikes!

I have an electric pump so my water goes if my electricity goes. I'm hoping that doesn't happen. It isn't supposed to be very cold so I don't need to worry about pipes freezing.

A friend of mine is co-teaching a class and her part of it is looking at the criminal justice implications of climate change. The stress of climate change can create more stress among people, etc. You can imagine the implications.

   98. Blastin Posted: October 28, 2012 at 07:44 PM (#4286240)
@Krusty

Arizona signed you to a big money deal but you're past your prime. Still put up a big year (1.066 OPS, though that's below your career avg), and pushed your former team (NYM, of course) to 7 games in the 2025 NLCS.

But then NYY beat up the Mets, as always.
   99. Darren Posted: October 28, 2012 at 07:45 PM (#4286241)
McCoy, where was your convention?
   100. McCoy Posted: October 28, 2012 at 08:02 PM (#4286255)
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