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Friday, October 26, 2012

OT: The Hurricane Sandy/“Frankenstorm” Thread

No World Series omnichatter today, but there’s the whole fact that there’s a Hurricane/“Frankenstorm” headed towards the East Coast Megalopolis, which, uh, a lot of us live in or near. So discuss that here and, above all else, stay safe.

Gamingboy Posted: October 26, 2012 at 03:36 PM | 678 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
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   101. The John Wetland Memorial Death (CoB) Posted: October 28, 2012 at 08:07 PM (#4286267)
Flip.
   102. Gamingboy Posted: October 28, 2012 at 08:14 PM (#4286275)
Saw that in some areas of NYC storm surge could be 6 to 10 feet.
   103. The Yankee Clapper Posted: October 28, 2012 at 08:19 PM (#4286284)
So for the second year in a row these idiots prevent me from making a sandwich.

Well, with all due respect, if it happened before, why wouldn't one anticipate the same result in similar circumstances? How hard is it to get a loaf of bread a day earlier? Just because the most dire warnings don't always come true is no reason not to take a few basic preparations.
   104. 'zop sympathizes with the wrong ####### people Posted: October 28, 2012 at 09:01 PM (#4286381)
Saw that in some areas of NYC storm surge could be 6 to 10 feet.


Not storm SURGE. Storm TIDE. Which is different, because storm surge + high tide = storm tide. HTFH.
   105. Mess with the Meat, you get the Wad! Posted: October 28, 2012 at 10:23 PM (#4286604)
Lake michigan has a flood warning.
   106. base ball chick Posted: October 28, 2012 at 10:41 PM (#4286652)
85. Ray (RDP) Posted: October 28, 2012 at 06:55 PM (#4286210)
Breaking... the CVS on 72nd and West End Ave is out of shaving blades.

Because I know the first thing I think of doing when I think the world is ending is shave.


- WOW

my kind of man!!! because you certainly DO need nice clean cheeks when you helpin out chicks in distress, tell you THAT
   107. Rafael Bellylard: A failure of the waist. Posted: October 28, 2012 at 11:06 PM (#4286721)
my kind of man!!! because you certainly DO need nice clean cheeks when you helpin out chicks in distress, tell you THAT


You'll need to fix him a sandwich first.
   108. Howie Menckel Posted: October 28, 2012 at 11:37 PM (#4286833)
ALL Starbucks in NYC and on Long Island are closed tomorrow. Yes, really. Panic reigns on my Twitter feed.

I'm in northern NJ, and the Missus is quite riled up tonight. We got all the sensible supplies, she has a hotel room reservation in case we lose power for a while, and so on. I applaud the prep and told her so several times.

But I'm thinking that a few things should calm her down a bit:

- we live in the top floor of a condo building, in a complex that didn't even get a PUDDLE during Hurricane Irene last year

- we're well inland, so the tides don't count directly

- we're RENTING

- no kids

- no elderly parents or grandparents in play

- ok, 2 elder-cats, but I mean, they're cats. manageable

- in a valley, basically, with 100+ ft high rock walls all over the place - rally-killers for determined windbursts, and none are that close to any buildings. if the walls collapsed, they'd land on a service road.

- no nearby rivers, hence the no-puddle result last time

- in a "quad" layout, in a corner berth so that even a sneaky wind that infiltrates the walls would have to burst forward and then make a last-second hard left to hit the windows

- no trees within 200 feet of the building

We COULD lose power for a while, anyway. But I'm just not feeling like the most vulnerable of 20 million people or so...

   109. McCoy Posted: October 29, 2012 at 12:10 AM (#4286995)
You still need 50 AA batteries.
   110. STEAGLES is all out of bubblegum Posted: October 29, 2012 at 12:13 AM (#4287005)
You still need 50 AA batteries.
don't forget:

20 D batteries
   111. Famous Original Joe C Posted: October 29, 2012 at 12:26 AM (#4287032)
Just drove from DC to Boston (rented a car once my flight tomorrow was cancelled). Weather not bad yet, except some heavy rain in Delaware and South Jersey. Winds were gusty but not scary. Still, the storm is hundreds of miles away. Even raining and blowing 25-30 MPH here in Boston.
   112. Tom T Posted: October 29, 2012 at 12:27 AM (#4287033)
So do places south of here (like Lafayette Indiana) where the drought was more severe & I wonder if the trees that were weakened by the drought will be more likely to come down. Yikes!


A bit late in response to this, but, yep...expecting that if we (West Lafalot) get heavy winds I'll be out with the chainsaw to cut wood. In August we had a couple storms roll through and we had trees basically splinter in half that just normally don't do that (ash, tulip). We have had a ton of rain lately, so perhaps the bigger concern right now would be erosion and uprooting (last year lost a 70' red oak at the edge of the ravine...fell AWAY from the ravine and took out half a 70' white pine and about 4 30-50' maples and oaks on its way down...no clue how we didn't hear it fall -- less than 200' from the house). But, on the bright side, maybe I'll finally make some nice stools for our fire pit....

Only thing I didn't get done before this Fall that I had intended was to get a generator (think we need 10 kW, may need 14 to get 200 A), but probably can get it done before the winter (which I gather is supposed to be nasty) arrives. At least if we lose power, we've got wood for fires, so only likely nuisances would be the fridge and lack of ability to flush toilets (but, hey, that's why we live by the woods!). Okay, no internet would also be pretty bad....

   113. Blastin Posted: October 29, 2012 at 02:20 AM (#4287107)
Still not raining here in Manhattan but I've told all my friends who are on the first/second floor to gather water/food/alcohol (ha) and come here if it looks like it's going to go completely to #### tomorrow.
   114. 'zop sympathizes with the wrong ####### people Posted: October 29, 2012 at 06:02 AM (#4287127)
Sandy intensifying pretty steadily as it is about to cross the Gulf Stream. 942 mb, which is very strong indeed. Would not want to be on LBI in Jersey right now.
   115. Gamingboy Posted: October 29, 2012 at 06:25 AM (#4287133)
Jeez-a-loo this storm is big. Clouds from it seem to go north forever...
   116. Joe Bivens, Minor Genius Posted: October 29, 2012 at 06:55 AM (#4287134)
They'll make us come to work today, then they'll tell us we can go home if we feel unsafe about staying until 5. But they won't pay us. Aye yi yi.
   117. RB in NYC (Now Semi-Retired from BBTF) Posted: October 29, 2012 at 07:00 AM (#4287135)
I'm going into work. Perhaps I should pack some batteries.
   118. Doris from Rego Park Posted: October 29, 2012 at 07:25 AM (#4287138)
Live in the west 90s of Manhattan, work in the East 40s and was planning on trying to get to the office somehow (go outside and hope for a cab?), but overnight they shut down our NYC and Long Island offices. Not good, as from what I can tell tomorrow morning is likely to be worse.

I can confirm the lines around the block for certain stores on the UWS (Trader Joe's, Whole Foods). At least you can breathe in those stores. A place like Associated did not have a line out the door, but even a line of ~ten people makes it difficult to move around. We have enough to get through at least a few days, and that's without going crazy yesterday. Really just picked up a few bottles of water for extreme precaution. We have family ~40 minutes away in the northern suburbs, so unless some bridges are taken out, we should be ok!

I'm sorry for your second sandwich loss in as many years, Ray :(
   119. 'zop sympathizes with the wrong ####### people Posted: October 29, 2012 at 07:46 AM (#4287142)
Good news is the the dropsonde showed a higher pressure than they would've extrapolated from the recon plane. 948 rather than 942. And the landfall point inched south. So some optimism, though it stil looks like we're in for some ferocious winds tonight from the SE.
   120. Rants Mulliniks Posted: October 29, 2012 at 08:05 AM (#4287151)
I'm north of the storm's path, but nonetheless I just finished building a root cellar yesterday, and stocked it with potatoes, sweet potatoes, carrots and squash from the garden. We also grow lots of dry beans, peas, and corn, and I buy flour in 25lb bags. I have a woodstove and 5 cords of dry hardwood, and I'm on a well. If the power goes out, I even have an old dug well from which I can draw water with a bucket. I'd have chickens and a couple of pigs, but the wife won't let me. I don't have a generator though, I should probably get one at some point.

Good luck to all those that might be in harm's way, don't let pride or bravado or simple apathy prevent you from evacuating if you get the order.

   121. Shooty Survived the Shutdown of '14! Posted: October 29, 2012 at 08:18 AM (#4287158)
I'm north of the storm's path, but nonetheless I just finished building a root cellar yesterday, and stocked it with potatoes, sweet potatoes, carrots and squash from the garden. We also grow lots of dry beans, peas, and corn, and I buy flour in 25lb bags. I have a woodstove and 5 cords of dry hardwood, and I'm on a well. If the power goes out, I even have an old dug well from which I can draw water with a bucket. I'd have chickens and a couple of pigs, but the wife won't let me. I don't have a generator though, I should probably get one at some point.

Jeez. All I did was make a big pot of spaghetti sauce and buy some peanut butter. If things get rough, I'm heading to Ray's apartment, of course. I do have plenty of cat food, though. I think they love me--the cats--but I'm not going to test that hypothesis...
   122. just plain joe Posted: October 29, 2012 at 08:45 AM (#4287167)
I'm heading to Ray's apartment, of course.


Take your own bread, and some razor blades.
   123. Rants Mulliniks Posted: October 29, 2012 at 08:49 AM (#4287169)
Shooty, just for clarification this storm had nothing to the do with the root cellar, I started it a month ago.... I've had a large garden for a few years, so I figured I might as well have a place to keep everything it produces.
   124. Shooty Survived the Shutdown of '14! Posted: October 29, 2012 at 08:51 AM (#4287171)
Shooty, just for clarification this storm had nothing to the do with the root cellar, I started it a month ago.... I've had a large garden for a few years, so I figured I might as well have a place to keep everything it produces.

I figured Rants, I was just kidding. I'm a little envious--stuck in the city the gf and I fantasize about having a garden and such. She's semi-obsessed with this homesteading movement.
   125. RB in NYC (Now Semi-Retired from BBTF) Posted: October 29, 2012 at 08:55 AM (#4287175)
I do have plenty of cat food, though. I think they love me--the cats--but I'm not going to test that hypothesis...
Just because they love doesn't mean they won't eat and let you starve. Never forget that.
   126. Avoid running at all times.-S. Paige Posted: October 29, 2012 at 09:43 AM (#4287211)
Red Hook, Brooklyn, 10 hours before the brunt of the storm:

https://twitter.com/greenpainting/status/262894932648402944/photo/1
   127. Ray (RDP) Posted: October 29, 2012 at 11:00 AM (#4287243)
Live in the west 90s of Manhattan, work in the East 40s and was planning on trying to get to the office somehow (go outside and hope for a cab?),


Walk. It worked for me fine this morning, from the west 70s to 39th/6th.
   128. Heinie Mantush (Krusty) Posted: October 29, 2012 at 11:02 AM (#4287245)
The last time there was a Sandy who rocked New York like this, he played for the 1963 Dodgers.

   129. McCoy Posted: October 29, 2012 at 11:23 AM (#4287260)
Just steady rain in DC so far. No strong winds either. Thankfully they suspended street sweeping so nobody has to worry about moving their cars. As of right now it is just a rain storm.
   130. Mayor Blomberg Posted: October 29, 2012 at 11:32 AM (#4287266)
Saw that in some areas of NYC storm surge could be 6 to 10 feet.

Not storm SURGE. Storm TIDE. Which is different, because storm surge + high tide = storm tide. HTFH.


well, word this morning is 50% chance of 7-9 foot SURGE. Saw that from Eric Berger in the Houston Chronicle, who's my first source on things hurricane-related and not at all an alarmist. Quoth he: "I am not one to fear monger, indeed as of last week before Sandy intensified and because of my cautious nature I perhaps underestimated the damage potential of this storm." For all y'all in my old home town and environs, I hope it's not that bad.
   131. Jose Can Still Seabiscuit Posted: October 29, 2012 at 11:48 AM (#4287282)
The last time there was a Sandy who rocked New York like this, he played for the 1963 Dodgers.


I think my father's Cuban background is a bit too strong in me. I read this and thought "Sandy Amoros wasn't still with the Dodgers in '63 was he?"
   132. bob gee Posted: October 29, 2012 at 11:58 AM (#4287297)
howie - hope you don't live near the rivers (passaic, hackensack) that often flood. grew up in bergen county, heard of some of the rivers overflowing the past few years during these storms.

am in ny state, i hope it's better than irene (our tree fell from ice and missed our house by a few feet).
   133. Gold Star - just Gold Star Posted: October 29, 2012 at 12:05 PM (#4287308)
Has the NJ NWS warning been posted?
IF YOU ARE RELUCTANT, THINK ABOUT YOUR LOVED ONES, THINK ABOUT THE EMERGENCY RESPONDERS WHO WILL BE UNABLE TO REACH YOU WHEN YOU MAKE THE PANICKED PHONE CALL TO BE RESCUED, THINK ABOUT THE RESCUE/RECOVERY TEAMS WHO WILL RESCUE YOU IF YOU ARE INJURED OR RECOVER YOUR REMAINS IF YOU DO NOT SURVIVE.
   134. Ok, Griffey's Dunn (Nothing Iffey About Griffey) Posted: October 29, 2012 at 12:05 PM (#4287309)
lord this storm is big. I'm in Butler County, Ohio (north of cincinnati). Wind advisory in affect until late Tuesday. sustained winds of 25-35mph with gusts over 50mph. Good luck and be safe, everyone.
   135. TerpNats Posted: October 29, 2012 at 12:09 PM (#4287311)
Raining here in Charlottesville; no heavy winds yet, and I was able to take the bus this morning to stock up at Kroger and CVS at Barracks Road shopping center. The wind may surge later, but I'm hoping C'ville is sufficiently inland to make damage minimal.
   136. cercopithecus aethiops Posted: October 29, 2012 at 12:12 PM (#4287315)
You're in Charlottesville? How did I not know that?
   137. Gamingboy Posted: October 29, 2012 at 12:16 PM (#4287318)
Has the NJ NWS warning been posted?

IF YOU ARE RELUCTANT, THINK ABOUT YOUR LOVED ONES, THINK ABOUT THE EMERGENCY RESPONDERS WHO WILL BE UNABLE TO REACH YOU WHEN YOU MAKE THE PANICKED PHONE CALL TO BE RESCUED, THINK ABOUT THE RESCUE/RECOVERY TEAMS WHO WILL RESCUE YOU IF YOU ARE INJURED OR RECOVER YOUR REMAINS IF YOU DO NOT SURVIVE.


Holy ####. It appears NJ NWS has the same bluntness of New Jersey's governor.
   138. Harveys Wallbangers Posted: October 29, 2012 at 12:16 PM (#4287320)
there is a photo posted on the cnn page from red hook brooklyn and street is fully submerged
   139. Gamingboy Posted: October 29, 2012 at 12:17 PM (#4287321)
   140. Harveys Wallbangers Posted: October 29, 2012 at 12:18 PM (#4287323)
no governor christie blowhard jokes?
   141. cercopithecus aethiops Posted: October 29, 2012 at 12:26 PM (#4287330)
Christie looks a bit like Luca Brasi in the photo at that link.
   142. Slivers of Maranville descends into chaos (SdeB) Posted: October 29, 2012 at 12:28 PM (#4287333)
I'm surprised the NWS gave no warning about the difficulty of procuring sandwiches over the next few days.
   143. Mayor Blomberg Posted: October 29, 2012 at 12:35 PM (#4287342)
I've seen what rescue folks have had to do to rescue people who'd otherwise be washed away during gulf storms, people on barrier islands or right on the beach near the center of the landfall prediction. Bluntness is the least that's called for.
   144. Gamingboy Posted: October 29, 2012 at 12:39 PM (#4287346)
This hasn't been posted yet, but a tall ship replica of the HMS Bounty sank/was disabled. Coast Guard rescued 14 of the crew, but two are still missing.
   145. Harveys Wallbangers Posted: October 29, 2012 at 12:40 PM (#4287348)
slivers

the ny attorney general did issue a warning about price gouging

so you can be assured that any sandwiches purchased will be at standard market price
   146. McCoy Posted: October 29, 2012 at 12:41 PM (#4287349)
You can never be surprised by the stupidity of humanity.

Hey, lets go sail into a gigantic storm in a sailing vessel loaded with tourists.

Brilliant!
   147. McCoy Posted: October 29, 2012 at 12:42 PM (#4287351)
When supplies are scarce or there is a huge demand for supplies there is no such thing as price gouging and it is downright stupid and harmful to fix prices.
   148. Gamingboy Posted: October 29, 2012 at 12:57 PM (#4287369)
I swear, some of these videos coming in from places like Atlantic City and Red Hook really make me worry what might happen when, y'know, the storm itself gets towards land.
   149. jack the seal clubber (on the sidelines of life) Posted: October 29, 2012 at 01:03 PM (#4287376)
Wind picks up here, and rain increasing in volume/ponding on roads. Not an apocalyptic scenario so far. (I am near Haymarket, Va.)
   150. Slivers of Maranville descends into chaos (SdeB) Posted: October 29, 2012 at 01:04 PM (#4287377)

This hasn't been posted yet, but a tall ship replica of the HMS Bounty sank/was disabled


Did the survivors make it 3000 miles to land in an open boat?


When supplies are scarce or there is a huge demand for supplies there is no such thing as price gouging and it is downright stupid and harmful to fix prices.


So the rationing we did during World War II of scarce supplies was downright stupid and harmful?
   151. Rants Mulliniks Posted: October 29, 2012 at 01:13 PM (#4287386)
Yeah, where's Pitcairns Island when you need it!
   152. The John Wetland Memorial Death (CoB) Posted: October 29, 2012 at 01:15 PM (#4287387)
Monstrous waves are expected to churn in Lake Michigan overnight as Hurricane Sandy makes landfall out east, with giants up to 33 feet and 60-mph winds likely.

Forecasters at National Weather Service offices in West Michigan and Chicago are warning of the tempestuous conditions, which are expected to build overnight into the morning of Tuesday, Oct. 30.

William Marino, a forecaster with the National Weather Service in Grand Rapids, said the biggest waves will be in Lake Michigan's southern end, near Benton Harbor, and across the lake near Chicago


That's just freaking nuts.
   153. McCoy Posted: October 29, 2012 at 01:25 PM (#4287397)
Winds are picking up in DC but the rain is still just a steady rain.


So the rationing we did during World War II of scarce supplies was downright stupid and harmful?

Yes.
   154. Crispix reaches boiling point with lackluster play Posted: October 29, 2012 at 01:27 PM (#4287398)
The NY Times dropping its paywall now that it deems its news to be important for people's safety is just criminal economic illiteracy. In a free market they would jack up the price!
   155. The Id of SugarBear Blanks Posted: October 29, 2012 at 01:30 PM (#4287406)
Speaking of the NY Times, NYC isn't even in the main storm area depicted in pink on their interactive map.
   156. Slivers of Maranville descends into chaos (SdeB) Posted: October 29, 2012 at 01:30 PM (#4287407)
So the rationing we did during World War II of scarce supplies was downright stupid and harmful?

Yes.


This makes no sense to me.
   157. McCoy Posted: October 29, 2012 at 01:32 PM (#4287410)
Why did they need to price fix and control how much could be bought instead of letting the free market decide the price of items?
   158. Edmundo got dem ol' Kozma blues again mama Posted: October 29, 2012 at 01:33 PM (#4287411)
no governor christie blowhard jokes?

On rare occasions blowhardiness is called for. :)
   159. Gamingboy Posted: October 29, 2012 at 01:35 PM (#4287414)
Speaking of the NY Times, NYC isn't even in the main storm area depicted in pink on their interactive map.


That's because that's not technically the "storm area", so much as it is the cone of where the storm's eye could go. The Eye won't hit NYC, but plenty of the bands are going to.
   160. Best Regards, President of Comfort Posted: October 29, 2012 at 01:35 PM (#4287415)
Why did they need to price fix and control how much could be bought instead of letting the free market decide the price of items?
I know, right? If those people wanted to have food, they should have had more money.
   161. McCoy Posted: October 29, 2012 at 01:36 PM (#4287417)
Food wasn't in short supply.
   162. Mess with the Meat, you get the Wad! Posted: October 29, 2012 at 01:38 PM (#4287420)
Its tempting to go watch benton harbor get hit by waves
   163. Harveys Wallbangers Posted: October 29, 2012 at 01:42 PM (#4287426)
i suspect we just found out who directed the red cross to charge gi's for coffee and donuts for a very brief time during wwii.

it was a pr disaster and to this day the red cross has to refute the claims that they charged for coffee and donuts in every conflict.
   164. bunyon Posted: October 29, 2012 at 01:46 PM (#4287431)
Why did they need to price fix and control how much could be bought instead of letting the free market decide the price of items?

Because the market is mostly individual or small group driven. Rubber for tires has a market price, which obviously rises as demand is created elsewhere. But if you just let the highest bidder buy the rubber that could be speculators, German agents, anyone. Which would also be fine and all except that your free market collapses when the lack of rubber costs you the war and you fall under a fascist regime. IOW, the rubber was needed by the public more than it was needed by any individual.

The kicker, to me, is that rationing was sort of all-in. You can't simply regulate one tiny bit of the economy. If you're going to do that, you can't price fix rubber without also price fixing the stuff the rubber producers needed. Which was done, justly, in WWII.
   165. Tuque Posted: October 29, 2012 at 01:49 PM (#4287433)
This thread is making me weirdly miss New York.

Good luck bras
   166. Gamingboy Posted: October 29, 2012 at 01:50 PM (#4287435)
I was looking at Google's stuff on the hurricane, and it seems that CitiField may be on the edge of possible storm surge....

Yankee Stadium is firmly inland.

(Only the Mets...)
   167. Harveys Wallbangers Posted: October 29, 2012 at 01:52 PM (#4287437)
tuque

why are you sending well wishes to undergarments?
   168. Tuque Posted: October 29, 2012 at 01:55 PM (#4287441)
No I'm wishing luck to all my bras on the East Coast.

Alternately spelled "brahs."

Alternately my bros, my homeboys, my dawgs.
   169. bunyon Posted: October 29, 2012 at 01:58 PM (#4287442)
Me on the other hand, is wishing good luck to the bras. Every man to a sand bag! Save the tits!
   170. Gamingboy Posted: October 29, 2012 at 02:07 PM (#4287450)
It apparently is speeding up. Moving 28 MPH towards Jersey. And, look, CNN has a image of a family with children that have come to Asbury Park to check out what's going on! Storm Surge, wind and rain: Fun for the Whole Family!
   171. Misirlou is on hiding to nowhere Posted: October 29, 2012 at 02:12 PM (#4287452)
2 PM update in, and the storm has made its turn and has sped up considerably. 27 knots, ~30 MPH. If you are north of the eye, add that to the storm's wind and you get ~120 MPH, or a strong Cat III.
   172. McCoy Posted: October 29, 2012 at 02:17 PM (#4287454)
There was a black market in WWII. Rationing was mostly for PR and morale reasons.
   173. Misirlou is on hiding to nowhere Posted: October 29, 2012 at 02:20 PM (#4287460)
I've seen what rescue folks have had to do to rescue people who'd otherwise be washed away during gulf storms, people on barrier islands or right on the beach near the center of the landfall prediction. Bluntness is the least that's called for.


Where I live, when a mandatory evacuation is ordered, we are told there will be no emergency services. We are told, in no uncertain terms, "You are on your own as of XX:XX tonight."
   174. JLAC is engulfed in a harmless burst of flame Posted: October 29, 2012 at 02:22 PM (#4287464)
Of course there was a black market, there are always those who will seek to profit no matter what the circumstances and I'm sure every single one of them thanked Hitler every day for their good fortune.

But rationing was mostly for practical reasons, morale included. You can't effectively fight a war without pulling people together.
   175. vortex of dissipation Posted: October 29, 2012 at 02:22 PM (#4287467)
And, look, CNN has a image of a family with children that have come to Asbury Park to check out what's going on!


The aurora is risin' behind them.
   176. jacksone (AKA It's OK...) Posted: October 29, 2012 at 02:23 PM (#4287468)
Serious question to those who procure large amounts of batteries. What do you use them for? I use AA and AAA batteries in remotes - maybe 6 each every other year. I use 9V batteries in smokes and co detectors. I cannot recall the last time I used a C or D battery.
   177. Benji Gil Gamesh Rises Posted: October 29, 2012 at 02:23 PM (#4287469)
30 miles west of D.C. here. Rain still steady but not heavy, save for an hour or so late morning. Wind seems to be gradually picking up.
   178. cercopithecus aethiops Posted: October 29, 2012 at 02:23 PM (#4287470)
My phone just made a sound I have never heard before and lit up with an NWS alert of a blizzard warning in my area. Either something about this storm just changed dramatically, or somebody must think I'm a lot further west than I am.
   179. cercopithecus aethiops Posted: October 29, 2012 at 02:25 PM (#4287472)
I cannot recall the last time I used a C or D battery.


Big flashlights and boomboxes.
   180. JLAC is engulfed in a harmless burst of flame Posted: October 29, 2012 at 02:26 PM (#4287473)
We go through batteries for the kids' cameras. Now I have rechargeables for them. They also use batteries for some of their handheld games and toys.

My #1 use of batteries for emergency purposes is lights and radio. I do have a crank radio/light/charger, and a handheld crank flashlight, but both are annoying to use.

I'd say our household's #1, in fact only, use of D batteries is in toys, both for the kids and otherwise.
   181. Benji Gil Gamesh Rises Posted: October 29, 2012 at 02:26 PM (#4287474)
I cannot recall the last time I used a C or D battery.
Large flashlights and lanterns often take D batteries.

We grabbed a bunch of AAs for our various flashlights, and we use them for a variety of other things (many not storm-related) so we'll always use them.
   182. Matt Clement of Alexandria Posted: October 29, 2012 at 02:30 PM (#4287478)
D batteries are for flashlights, basically.

Starting to get some big wind gusts in Williamsburg.
   183. Gamingboy Posted: October 29, 2012 at 02:31 PM (#4287479)
Starting to rain in WNY.
   184. McCoy Posted: October 29, 2012 at 02:32 PM (#4287480)
Damn, lost the Diplomacy thread. The next few days would be a good time to play a "live" games of Diplomacy.


Window sill has sprouted a leak. Pots and pans time.
   185. bob gee Posted: October 29, 2012 at 02:39 PM (#4287487)
stormtracker for upstate ny for power outages:
http://stormcentral.cenhud.com/default.aspx

pse&g has one doesn't look as good (For nj)
http://www.pseg.com/home/customer_service/outage_info/outagemap.jsp
   186. Tuque Posted: October 29, 2012 at 02:45 PM (#4287495)
Finding some interesting stuff on the Twitter.

Statue of Liberty torch cam aimed towards Manhattan is so inundated with rain that you can barely see the silhouettes of the buildings in the distance. Just ten minutes ago they were fairly visible. Must be getting worse

http://www.earthcam.com/usa/newyork/statueofliberty/index.php?cam=liberty_hd
   187. Gamingboy Posted: October 29, 2012 at 02:48 PM (#4287496)
CNN is showing a crane in NYC that has partially collapsed. If it totally collapses, well, it's a loooong way down and I wouldn't want to be where it lands. 57th street. Dangling.
   188. hokieneer Posted: October 29, 2012 at 02:55 PM (#4287503)
Snow accumulated overnight here in WV. Not at my house but at my inlaws, who while living in a higher elevation than I live, live no where near the elevation of the ski resorts in the mountains. If it's already starting to stick, it's entirely possible places might see the 1-2ft+ of accumulation by Thursday.

Half of WV is in a severe blizzard warning, the other half is in a flood watch. Interesting phenomenon.
   189. Tuque Posted: October 29, 2012 at 03:00 PM (#4287508)
   190. bunyon Posted: October 29, 2012 at 03:05 PM (#4287512)
That CNN cam has a windshield wiper. I didn't know that and the first time I saw it I thought the building it was on was coming down.
   191. Jose Can Still Seabiscuit Posted: October 29, 2012 at 03:12 PM (#4287517)
Last 15-30 minutes in Burlington, MA has seen a major whether shift. The wind has picked up by a significant factor. It's gone from being a bit unpleasant out to "damn, this is impressive" in short order.
   192. Benji Gil Gamesh Rises Posted: October 29, 2012 at 03:14 PM (#4287522)
Getting some serious gusts here in the DC area as well, one I'm guessing had to be 60ish.
   193. Bring Me the Head of Alfredo Griffin (Vlad) Posted: October 29, 2012 at 03:25 PM (#4287533)
Yeah, where's Pitcairns Island when you need it!


In jail?

Serious question to those who procure large amounts of batteries. What do you use them for?


Throwing at umpires.
   194. STEAGLES is all out of bubblegum Posted: October 29, 2012 at 03:26 PM (#4287535)
Throwing at umpires JD Drew.
ftfy
   195. hokieneer Posted: October 29, 2012 at 03:31 PM (#4287536)
Getting some serious gusts here in the DC area as well, one I'm guessing had to be 60ish.


After the derecho the one thing I learned is there is a huge difference between 50-60 MPH winds and 70-80 MPH winds. The former is mildly inconvenient and might damage a little infrastructure. The latter can practically destroy entire areas and leave half a state in the dark ages for a week.
   196. Ray (RDP) Posted: October 29, 2012 at 03:37 PM (#4287539)
CNN is showing a crane in NYC that has partially collapsed. If it totally collapses, well, it's a loooong way down and I wouldn't want to be where it lands. 57th street. Dangling.


I literally walked under that crane about two hours ago. Had no clue it was there or dangling, since I didn't look up. Safely home now.

MCOA, you're in Williamsburg? Why haven't you made it out for a drink with the NYC primates?
   197. Gamingboy Posted: October 29, 2012 at 03:38 PM (#4287542)
Oh you've got to be kidding me: Twitter is saying that apparently a crane at the WTC has also broken. I mean, it is twitter so who the hell knows if it's true, but it really kind of shows how vulnerable NYC and other Metropolises are to these things...
   198. Gamingboy Posted: October 29, 2012 at 03:40 PM (#4287544)
Apparently people up here have started to lose power. Yeah, already. If I stop posting and it isn't the middle of the night, assume either I lost power or I have been recruited by a Government Task Force set up to kill Godzilla.
   199. Howie Menckel Posted: October 29, 2012 at 03:40 PM (#4287546)

the crane story is true
and my brother indeed lost his power in north NJ at 10 am..


Lobster House in famed resort town Cape May on the southern tip of the Jersey shore:

https://www.facebook.com/the.jersey.shore/posts/486905677996358

and aptly named "Ocean City"

https://twitter.com/heatherhaddon/status/262987617874870272/photo/1

one break for northern NJ is that unlike with Irene, the ground wasn't saturated and the rivers aren't nearly as close to the flooding point. best guess is less flooding but more and longer power outages, with 70+ mph winds the wild card.

just drove home, and oddly all the liquor stores along the highway are closed but all the fast food places are open.

getting a couple of momentary flickers already, but as noted earlier, I'm not in a flood zone...



   200. Harveys Wallbangers Posted: October 29, 2012 at 03:42 PM (#4287549)
from cnn:

Just blocks from Manhattan’s Columbus Circle, an arm of a giant crane dangles from a skyscraper that is under construction. The crane had been positioned firmly before the effects of Hurricane Sandy began to be felt in New York City.

The West 57th Street building - known as One57 –is a high-rise that will feature some of the city's most expensive apartments. New York police and fire crews are on the scene, and part of the street has been closed off as a precaution.
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