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Well, with all due respect, if it happened before, why wouldn't one anticipate the same result in similar circumstances? How hard is it to get a loaf of bread a day earlier? Just because the most dire warnings don't always come true is no reason not to take a few basic preparations.
Not storm SURGE. Storm TIDE. Which is different, because storm surge + high tide = storm tide. HTFH.
Breaking... the CVS on 72nd and West End Ave is out of shaving blades.
Because I know the first thing I think of doing when I think the world is ending is shave.
- WOW
my kind of man!!! because you certainly DO need nice clean cheeks when you helpin out chicks in distress, tell you THAT
You'll need to fix him a sandwich first.
I'm in northern NJ, and the Missus is quite riled up tonight. We got all the sensible supplies, she has a hotel room reservation in case we lose power for a while, and so on. I applaud the prep and told her so several times.
But I'm thinking that a few things should calm her down a bit:
- we live in the top floor of a condo building, in a complex that didn't even get a PUDDLE during Hurricane Irene last year
- we're well inland, so the tides don't count directly
- we're RENTING
- no kids
- no elderly parents or grandparents in play
- ok, 2 elder-cats, but I mean, they're cats. manageable
- in a valley, basically, with 100+ ft high rock walls all over the place - rally-killers for determined windbursts, and none are that close to any buildings. if the walls collapsed, they'd land on a service road.
- no nearby rivers, hence the no-puddle result last time
- in a "quad" layout, in a corner berth so that even a sneaky wind that infiltrates the walls would have to burst forward and then make a last-second hard left to hit the windows
- no trees within 200 feet of the building
We COULD lose power for a while, anyway. But I'm just not feeling like the most vulnerable of 20 million people or so...
20 D batteries
A bit late in response to this, but, yep...expecting that if we (West Lafalot) get heavy winds I'll be out with the chainsaw to cut wood. In August we had a couple storms roll through and we had trees basically splinter in half that just normally don't do that (ash, tulip). We have had a ton of rain lately, so perhaps the bigger concern right now would be erosion and uprooting (last year lost a 70' red oak at the edge of the ravine...fell AWAY from the ravine and took out half a 70' white pine and about 4 30-50' maples and oaks on its way down...no clue how we didn't hear it fall -- less than 200' from the house). But, on the bright side, maybe I'll finally make some nice stools for our fire pit....
Only thing I didn't get done before this Fall that I had intended was to get a generator (think we need 10 kW, may need 14 to get 200 A), but probably can get it done before the winter (which I gather is supposed to be nasty) arrives. At least if we lose power, we've got wood for fires, so only likely nuisances would be the fridge and lack of ability to flush toilets (but, hey, that's why we live by the woods!). Okay, no internet would also be pretty bad....
I can confirm the lines around the block for certain stores on the UWS (Trader Joe's, Whole Foods). At least you can breathe in those stores. A place like Associated did not have a line out the door, but even a line of ~ten people makes it difficult to move around. We have enough to get through at least a few days, and that's without going crazy yesterday. Really just picked up a few bottles of water for extreme precaution. We have family ~40 minutes away in the northern suburbs, so unless some bridges are taken out, we should be ok!
I'm sorry for your second sandwich loss in as many years, Ray :(
Good luck to all those that might be in harm's way, don't let pride or bravado or simple apathy prevent you from evacuating if you get the order.
Jeez. All I did was make a big pot of spaghetti sauce and buy some peanut butter. If things get rough, I'm heading to Ray's apartment, of course. I do have plenty of cat food, though. I think they love me--the cats--but I'm not going to test that hypothesis...
Take your own bread, and some razor blades.
I figured Rants, I was just kidding. I'm a little envious--stuck in the city the gf and I fantasize about having a garden and such. She's semi-obsessed with this homesteading movement.
https://twitter.com/greenpainting/status/262894932648402944/photo/1
Walk. It worked for me fine this morning, from the west 70s to 39th/6th.
well, word this morning is 50% chance of 7-9 foot SURGE. Saw that from Eric Berger in the Houston Chronicle, who's my first source on things hurricane-related and not at all an alarmist. Quoth he: "I am not one to fear monger, indeed as of last week before Sandy intensified and because of my cautious nature I perhaps underestimated the damage potential of this storm." For all y'all in my old home town and environs, I hope it's not that bad.
I think my father's Cuban background is a bit too strong in me. I read this and thought "Sandy Amoros wasn't still with the Dodgers in '63 was he?"
am in ny state, i hope it's better than irene (our tree fell from ice and missed our house by a few feet).
Holy ####. It appears NJ NWS has the same bluntness of New Jersey's governor.
the ny attorney general did issue a warning about price gouging
so you can be assured that any sandwiches purchased will be at standard market price
Hey, lets go sail into a gigantic storm in a sailing vessel loaded with tourists.
Brilliant!
Did the survivors make it 3000 miles to land in an open boat?
So the rationing we did during World War II of scarce supplies was downright stupid and harmful?
That's just freaking nuts.
So the rationing we did during World War II of scarce supplies was downright stupid and harmful?
Yes.
This makes no sense to me.
On rare occasions blowhardiness is called for. :)
That's because that's not technically the "storm area", so much as it is the cone of where the storm's eye could go. The Eye won't hit NYC, but plenty of the bands are going to.
it was a pr disaster and to this day the red cross has to refute the claims that they charged for coffee and donuts in every conflict.
Because the market is mostly individual or small group driven. Rubber for tires has a market price, which obviously rises as demand is created elsewhere. But if you just let the highest bidder buy the rubber that could be speculators, German agents, anyone. Which would also be fine and all except that your free market collapses when the lack of rubber costs you the war and you fall under a fascist regime. IOW, the rubber was needed by the public more than it was needed by any individual.
The kicker, to me, is that rationing was sort of all-in. You can't simply regulate one tiny bit of the economy. If you're going to do that, you can't price fix rubber without also price fixing the stuff the rubber producers needed. Which was done, justly, in WWII.
Good luck bras
Yankee Stadium is firmly inland.
(Only the Mets...)
why are you sending well wishes to undergarments?
Alternately spelled "brahs."
Alternately my bros, my homeboys, my dawgs.
Where I live, when a mandatory evacuation is ordered, we are told there will be no emergency services. We are told, in no uncertain terms, "You are on your own as of XX:XX tonight."
But rationing was mostly for practical reasons, morale included. You can't effectively fight a war without pulling people together.
The aurora is risin' behind them.
Big flashlights and boomboxes.
My #1 use of batteries for emergency purposes is lights and radio. I do have a crank radio/light/charger, and a handheld crank flashlight, but both are annoying to use.
I'd say our household's #1, in fact only, use of D batteries is in toys, both for the kids and otherwise.
We grabbed a bunch of AAs for our various flashlights, and we use them for a variety of other things (many not storm-related) so we'll always use them.
Starting to get some big wind gusts in Williamsburg.
Window sill has sprouted a leak. Pots and pans time.
http://stormcentral.cenhud.com/default.aspx
pse&g has one doesn't look as good (For nj)
http://www.pseg.com/home/customer_service/outage_info/outagemap.jsp
Statue of Liberty torch cam aimed towards Manhattan is so inundated with rain that you can barely see the silhouettes of the buildings in the distance. Just ten minutes ago they were fairly visible. Must be getting worse
http://www.earthcam.com/usa/newyork/statueofliberty/index.php?cam=liberty_hd
Half of WV is in a severe blizzard warning, the other half is in a flood watch. Interesting phenomenon.
http://www.cnn.com/video/?/video/cvplive/cvpstream2#/video/cvplive/cvpstream2
In jail?
Throwing at umpires.
After the derecho the one thing I learned is there is a huge difference between 50-60 MPH winds and 70-80 MPH winds. The former is mildly inconvenient and might damage a little infrastructure. The latter can practically destroy entire areas and leave half a state in the dark ages for a week.
I literally walked under that crane about two hours ago. Had no clue it was there or dangling, since I didn't look up. Safely home now.
MCOA, you're in Williamsburg? Why haven't you made it out for a drink with the NYC primates?
the crane story is true
and my brother indeed lost his power in north NJ at 10 am..
Lobster House in famed resort town Cape May on the southern tip of the Jersey shore:
https://www.facebook.com/the.jersey.shore/posts/486905677996358
and aptly named "Ocean City"
https://twitter.com/heatherhaddon/status/262987617874870272/photo/1
one break for northern NJ is that unlike with Irene, the ground wasn't saturated and the rivers aren't nearly as close to the flooding point. best guess is less flooding but more and longer power outages, with 70+ mph winds the wild card.
just drove home, and oddly all the liquor stores along the highway are closed but all the fast food places are open.
getting a couple of momentary flickers already, but as noted earlier, I'm not in a flood zone...
Just blocks from Manhattan’s Columbus Circle, an arm of a giant crane dangles from a skyscraper that is under construction. The crane had been positioned firmly before the effects of Hurricane Sandy began to be felt in New York City.
The West 57th Street building - known as One57 –is a high-rise that will feature some of the city's most expensive apartments. New York police and fire crews are on the scene, and part of the street has been closed off as a precaution.
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