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Friday, October 26, 2012

OT: The Hurricane Sandy/“Frankenstorm” Thread

No World Series omnichatter today, but there’s the whole fact that there’s a Hurricane/“Frankenstorm” headed towards the East Coast Megalopolis, which, uh, a lot of us live in or near. So discuss that here and, above all else, stay safe.

Gamingboy Posted: October 26, 2012 at 03:36 PM | 678 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
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   201. zonk Posted: October 29, 2012 at 03:45 PM (#4287551)
If I stop posting and it isn't the middle of the night, assume either I lost power or I have been recruited by a Government Task Force set up to kill Godzilla.


At least the winds are keeping Mothra grounded...
   202. bunyon Posted: October 29, 2012 at 03:46 PM (#4287553)
There is no way to firmly position a crane in front of a hurricane.
   203. Ray (RDP) Posted: October 29, 2012 at 03:48 PM (#4287554)
Oh you've got to be kidding me: Twitter is saying that apparently a crane at the WTC has also broken. I mean, it is twitter so who the hell knows if it's true, but it really kind of shows how vulnerable NYC and other Metropolises are to these things...


The burbs have trees, power lines, and branches. We have cranes and things high on buildings and on the streets.
   204. Ray (RDP) Posted: October 29, 2012 at 03:49 PM (#4287557)
Couldn't this crane have been dealt with earlier? Did they miss the wall-to-wall coverage of this that started days ago?
   205. Gamingboy Posted: October 29, 2012 at 03:51 PM (#4287560)
If I stop posting and it isn't the middle of the night, assume either I lost power or I have been recruited by a Government Task Force set up to kill Godzilla.



At least the winds are keeping Mothra grounded...


Yes, but Mothra is one of the few monsters we can trust to aid in the battle...
   206. McCoy Posted: October 29, 2012 at 03:52 PM (#4287562)
I'm not sure how dangling cranes shows how vulnerable major cities are to storms.
   207. Avoid running at all times.-S. Paige Posted: October 29, 2012 at 03:53 PM (#4287563)
This would be the perfect day for the New York area Primates' first annual Wiffle Ball Classic in Central Park.
   208. McCoy Posted: October 29, 2012 at 03:53 PM (#4287565)
Couldn't this crane have been dealt with earlier? Did they miss the wall-to-wall coverage of this that started days ago?

Like doing what exactly?
   209. Random Transaction Generator Posted: October 29, 2012 at 03:54 PM (#4287566)
Every hit could be like Cabrera's home run last night...
   210. cercopithecus aethiops Posted: October 29, 2012 at 03:55 PM (#4287568)
I don't think you can just pop those cranes up and down in a day or so.
   211. zack Posted: October 29, 2012 at 03:56 PM (#4287569)
This would be the perfect day for the New York area Primates' first annual Wiffle Ball Classic in Central Park.


Is it a strike if the ball passes outside third base on the way in?
   212. Gamingboy Posted: October 29, 2012 at 03:56 PM (#4287570)
I'm not sure how dangling cranes shows how vulnerable major cities are to storms.


I dunno, but I just feel like a crane falling down would cause more havoc then a tree.
   213. McCoy Posted: October 29, 2012 at 03:58 PM (#4287573)
No trees down yet on my street though it kind of looks like one might go if the storm gets worse. Fortunately I do not believe my car is near any trees that will come down. The closest trees are pretty small and young. Also the last storm a couple of months back knocked a few trees so the weaker trees got culled from the herd already.
   214. hokieneer Posted: October 29, 2012 at 03:58 PM (#4287574)
I don't think you can just pop those cranes up and down in a day or so.


Probably not, but I know my weather geek friends were first mentioning this storm last last Monday. Not saying it was right to leave/remove the crane, but it does seem like there was ample time to remove it.
   215. 'Spos stares out the window, waits for spring Posted: October 29, 2012 at 03:58 PM (#4287575)
Like doing what exactly?


They could've reinforced it with sandwiches...
   216. Bring Me the Head of Alfredo Griffin (Vlad) Posted: October 29, 2012 at 03:58 PM (#4287576)
Lobster House in famed resort town Cape May on the southern tip of the Jersey shore:

https://www.facebook.com/the.jersey.shore/posts/486905677996358


That restaurant's right on the water. Even so, that's a hell of a flood.
   217. The Yankee Clapper Posted: October 29, 2012 at 04:03 PM (#4287577)
In Northern Virginia, South of Alexandria, rain is a little heavier, with wind gusting a bit. Still, the Weather Channel app says winds will peak at 35 MPH around 5:00 PM. Hopefully, that will leave me with power on. Lost power for 3 days in both Snowmegeddon and the Derecho - not that much fun.
   218. Ray (RDP) Posted: October 29, 2012 at 04:04 PM (#4287579)
They could've reinforced it with sandwiches...


With what bread?
   219. Gamingboy Posted: October 29, 2012 at 04:05 PM (#4287580)
   220. Tuque Posted: October 29, 2012 at 04:07 PM (#4287581)
I had a sandwich the other day that was just speck, asiago and arugula on ciabatta bread. No condiments or anything. It was the best sandwich I've ever made, and I think it might benefit this crane situation enormously.
   221. vortex of dissipation Posted: October 29, 2012 at 04:08 PM (#4287583)
Obligatory given where the storm will roughly make landfall


Unless it hits here, of course.
   222. Gamingboy Posted: October 29, 2012 at 04:11 PM (#4287586)


Unless it hits here, of course.


Of course.
   223. 'Spos stares out the window, waits for spring Posted: October 29, 2012 at 04:13 PM (#4287591)
With what bread?


I was assuming they might have planned ahead...
   224. Random Transaction Generator Posted: October 29, 2012 at 04:18 PM (#4287597)
With what bread?


National bread redistribution would have come in handy, AGAIN!
   225. 'Spos stares out the window, waits for spring Posted: October 29, 2012 at 04:20 PM (#4287598)
National bread redistribution would have come in handy, AGAIN!


...or a wheat pool!
   226. cercopithecus aethiops Posted: October 29, 2012 at 04:31 PM (#4287607)
Not saying it was right to leave/remove the crane, but it does seem like there was ample time to remove it.


How many construction cranes are up in the city at any given time? How likely is one to come down in hurricane force winds? How much would it cost to shut down all those sites and take the cranes down a week ahead of a storm, and then put them all back up a week later? Unless there's something specific about these particular cranes that makes them uniquely vulnerable, of course.
   227. Bring Me the Head of Alfredo Griffin (Vlad) Posted: October 29, 2012 at 04:33 PM (#4287608)
Radio stream for NJ 101.5: Link.

Good storm info.
   228. 'Spos stares out the window, waits for spring Posted: October 29, 2012 at 04:36 PM (#4287613)
How many construction cranes are up in the city at any given time? How likely is one to come down in hurricane force winds? How much would it cost to shut down all those sites and take the cranes down a week ahead of a storm, and then put them all back up a week later?


Any insurance adjusters on this thread?
   229. cercopithecus aethiops Posted: October 29, 2012 at 04:37 PM (#4287614)
Anyway, what I really want to know is if Taco Bell is giving rain checks on the Doritos Locos Taco giveaway.
   230. Dock Ellis on Acid Posted: October 29, 2012 at 04:40 PM (#4287617)
I am stuck in Atlanta until further notice after having two flights back to LGA cancelled. I realized I left my freaking window open in my apartment, but a buddy who lives a few blocks away and has my spare key has generously offered to walk from East Harlem to West Harlem to shut it. Minor crisis averted. Whew.
   231. Gamingboy Posted: October 29, 2012 at 04:40 PM (#4287618)

Anyway, what I really want to know is if Taco Bell is giving rain checks on the Doritos Locos Taco giveaway.



Are you kidding me? After the storm, Doritos Locos Tacoes will be the main source of nourishment for several days.
   232. The John Wetland Memorial Death (CoB) Posted: October 29, 2012 at 04:43 PM (#4287620)
More than 765,000 in seven states have no electricity, with New York and New Jersey being the most affected states with more than 220,000 outages each.
   233. Gamingboy Posted: October 29, 2012 at 04:46 PM (#4287622)
   234. Tuque Posted: October 29, 2012 at 04:50 PM (#4287624)
Close-up of the crane. It's hard to realize how precariously the arm is hanging there until you see it up close.

http://img.gawkerassets.com/img/183oopxgj782mjpg/xlarge.jpg
   235. Gamingboy Posted: October 29, 2012 at 04:54 PM (#4287626)
234: If only Spider-Man were real....
   236. catomi01 Posted: October 29, 2012 at 04:54 PM (#4287627)
my old boss (from my baseball days) is a NYC firefighter, and just got dispatched to the crane...no idea what the plan is, but sounds like there is one.
   237. McCoy Posted: October 29, 2012 at 05:03 PM (#4287630)
Seems to me that if a broken crane can stay up there this long then it was pretty reasonable to assume that squared away cranes could make it through this storm.
   238. McCoy Posted: October 29, 2012 at 05:07 PM (#4287634)
nm
   239. Misirlou was a Buddhist prodigy Posted: October 29, 2012 at 05:07 PM (#4287635)
Couldn't this crane have been dealt with earlier? Did they miss the wall-to-wall coverage of this that started days ago?


They didn't want to be accused of needless preparation.
   240. Tuque Posted: October 29, 2012 at 05:12 PM (#4287638)
Yeah I'm not really too worried about the crane. Even if it does fall I think they'll do a good job of getting people out of the way. I just think it's...well, kind of cool.

Though I hope this doesn't make me look like an ####### in retrospect.
   241. Ray (RDP) Posted: October 29, 2012 at 05:15 PM (#4287641)
They didn't want to be accused of needless preparation.


Can you not tell the difference between buying up batteries and bread as if you are going to be holed up for 3 months and taking preparations if you are a crane company subcontracting on a construction job to make sure your #### doesn't fall on people?
   242. Howie Menckel Posted: October 29, 2012 at 05:17 PM (#4287642)

guy on Long Island losing his house to the hurricane, but he still calls WFAN's Mike Francesa - to talk Jets....

http://soundcloud.com/deadspin-1/radwfan-10-29-2012-13-50-55

#worthit
   243. Ok, Griffey's Dunn (Nothing Iffey About Griffey) Posted: October 29, 2012 at 05:18 PM (#4287646)
the crane is now "breaking news" on CNN
   244. Gamingboy Posted: October 29, 2012 at 05:18 PM (#4287647)

guy on Long Island losing his house to the hurricane, but he still calls WFAN's Mike Francesa - to talk Jets....

http://soundcloud.com/deadspin-1/radwfan-10-29-2012-13-50-55

#worthit


Why isn't Tebow fixing the crane?
   245. Crispix reaches boiling point with lackluster play Posted: October 29, 2012 at 05:19 PM (#4287648)
Look, I was at the grocery store yesterday. I did not see people with a cart full of bread and batteries and peanut butter, I saw a bunch of people, many of whom had a reasonable amount of bread and batteries and peanut butter, enough to last a couple days. When everyone does that at once, to make sure they at least have some at home, the stores run out. It doesn't require an epidemic of wacky moronic behavior.
   246. cercopithecus aethiops Posted: October 29, 2012 at 05:22 PM (#4287650)
Give it a rest, Ray. If that crane had been on CNN two days ago because the contractor decided to take it down as a precaution, you'd have been raising holy hell about it and saying it was exactly the same thing as the bread and batteries.
   247. AROM Posted: October 29, 2012 at 05:25 PM (#4287652)
"Are you kidding me? After the storm, Doritos Locos Tacoes will be the main source of nourishment for several days."

And there go the sewer systems.
   248. Benji Gil Gamesh Rises Posted: October 29, 2012 at 05:31 PM (#4287656)
I'm surprised this thread isn't more active, and wondering whether a fair number of primates are without power already.
   249. PepTech Posted: October 29, 2012 at 05:34 PM (#4287659)
Why isn't Tebow fixing the crane?


First he needs a shave and a sandwich.
   250. catomi01 Posted: October 29, 2012 at 05:35 PM (#4287662)
most of my surrounding area is out already....LIPA is saying 200 K + out on Long Island
   251. Ok, Griffey's Dunn (Nothing Iffey About Griffey) Posted: October 29, 2012 at 05:38 PM (#4287667)
interesting. Chris Christie is on CNN now. apparently, the mayor of Atlantic City told people to stay in Atlantic City, when Christie was telling people to leave. He's telling the people who stayed to hunker down, because they can't send anyone in to help them until tomorrow.
   252. Benji Gil Gamesh Rises Posted: October 29, 2012 at 05:39 PM (#4287669)
interesting. Chris Christie is on CNN now. apparently, the mayor of Atlantic City told people to stay in Atlantic City, when Christie was telling people to leave. He's telling the people who stayed to hunker down, because they can't send anyone in to help them until tomorrow.
...and frankly he's being kind of a dick about it.
   253. DKDC Posted: October 29, 2012 at 05:40 PM (#4287670)
I still have power up in Westchester County. We've had a little rain and some wind gusts but I don't see any trees down. We never lost power for Irene.
   254. Heinie Mantush (Krusty) Posted: October 29, 2012 at 05:41 PM (#4287671)
Lights just flickered on the UWS.
   255. Howie Menckel Posted: October 29, 2012 at 05:41 PM (#4287672)

Christie and that mayor have feuded for a couple of years now over how much control the state should have over the struggling city.

got another flicker; my time with lights may not last...

   256. Jeffo has an El Camino full of Rampage Posted: October 29, 2012 at 05:43 PM (#4287674)
My lights just flickered here in Hoboken just now. At least I finished watching last night's Homeland episode while I still have power!
   257. Gamingboy Posted: October 29, 2012 at 05:46 PM (#4287678)
interesting. Chris Christie is on CNN now. apparently, the mayor of Atlantic City told people to stay in Atlantic City, when Christie was telling people to leave. He's telling the people who stayed to hunker down, because they can't send anyone in to help them until tomorrow.

...and frankly he's being kind of a dick about it.



I haven't gotten up to date on this season of Boardwalk Empire, but I must ask: WHAT WOULD NUCKY DO?
   258. Ok, Griffey's Dunn (Nothing Iffey About Griffey) Posted: October 29, 2012 at 05:46 PM (#4287679)
At least I finished watching last night's Homeland episode while I still have power!


Awesome episode. I love this show.
   259. Jeffo has an El Camino full of Rampage Posted: October 29, 2012 at 06:00 PM (#4287687)
It added to the tension of the episode that I thought I might lose power during it!
   260. The Anthony Kennedy of BBTF (Scott) Posted: October 29, 2012 at 06:11 PM (#4287694)
No spoilers! I have it on my laptop in case my power goes out!
   261. Howie Menckel Posted: October 29, 2012 at 06:18 PM (#4287700)

so unfair, but then, that is a key to comedy, isn't it?

@Dave_Gershman: They should have called it Hurricane A-Rod; that way it wouldn't have hit anything.
   262. Gamingboy Posted: October 29, 2012 at 06:27 PM (#4287710)
Rain getting heavier. Wind more noticable.
   263. hokieneer Posted: October 29, 2012 at 06:32 PM (#4287714)
Looks like it's just a few hours from landfall, according to this
   264. McCoy Posted: October 29, 2012 at 06:36 PM (#4287717)
At this point I'm thinking DC didn't need to shut down for this.
   265. Misirlou was a Buddhist prodigy Posted: October 29, 2012 at 06:39 PM (#4287719)
At this point I'm thinking DC didn't need to shut down for this.


In retrospect, somebody's always smart, and somebody's always dumb.
   266. Ok, Griffey's Dunn (Nothing Iffey About Griffey) Posted: October 29, 2012 at 06:43 PM (#4287722)
somebody's always dumb.


Like these people on CNN who decided to wait until there was two feet of water flowing over the street before evacuating when they've been told for days they need to go?
   267. smileyy Posted: October 29, 2012 at 06:44 PM (#4287725)
[265] Even if I were Hindsight Man, with the superpower of 20/20 Hindsight, I bet I'd still get everything wrong.
   268. hokieneer Posted: October 29, 2012 at 06:48 PM (#4287729)
At this point I'm thinking DC didn't need to shut down for this.


The worse is still to come right? Over the next 12 hours or so.
   269. Misirlou was a Buddhist prodigy Posted: October 29, 2012 at 06:50 PM (#4287730)
Like these people on CNN who decided to wait until there was two feet of water flowing over the street before evacuating when they've been told for days they need to go?


Them, and the people 100 miles away who did evacuate but their neighborhood is fine.
   270. 'Spos stares out the window, waits for spring Posted: October 29, 2012 at 06:52 PM (#4287733)
Gotta love this:

http://www.lipower.org/stormcenter/outagemap.html

Rellies all in the dark, cooking with gas.
   271. Gamingboy Posted: October 29, 2012 at 06:53 PM (#4287734)
Does anybody know if the aerial photo going around claiming to show Atlantic City and the Boardwalk inundated are real or just photoshops?
   272. Tuque Posted: October 29, 2012 at 06:55 PM (#4287736)
I'm seeing a few tweets that an apartment building collapsed on 8th Ave and 14th street...is it really that bad already? I guess the wind must be getting pretty strong because that crane is really waving.
   273. Gamingboy Posted: October 29, 2012 at 06:58 PM (#4287737)
I'm seeing a few tweets that an apartment building collapsed on 8th Ave and 14th street...is it really that bad already? I guess the wind must be getting pretty strong because that crane is really waving.


Really?
   274. Gamingboy Posted: October 29, 2012 at 07:00 PM (#4287740)
Dear god, I just realized this: the Baby Walrus is in New York at their aquarium! Somebody, protect the Baby Walrus!
   275. 'Spos stares out the window, waits for spring Posted: October 29, 2012 at 07:01 PM (#4287741)
I'm seeing a few tweets that an apartment building collapsed...


Seeing the same tweets, echo chamber also seems to be in effect.

edit:

http://www.businessinsider.com/major-building-collapse-in-manhattan-at-8th-and-14th-street-2012-10

uh oh
   276. Tuque Posted: October 29, 2012 at 07:01 PM (#4287742)
Yeah I though it sounded a little extreme. I guess it didn't collapse, the front just tore off. Still...damn.
   277. Gamingboy Posted: October 29, 2012 at 07:04 PM (#4287745)
Holy cow...
   278. DKDC Posted: October 29, 2012 at 07:06 PM (#4287746)
I bet the landlord could find some pretentious performance artist types and double the rent.
   279. Gamingboy Posted: October 29, 2012 at 07:08 PM (#4287747)
Good news! The hurricane is now no longer, technically, a hurricane. Technically. It really actually still is. It's just Post-Tropical.
   280. Avoid running at all times.-S. Paige Posted: October 29, 2012 at 07:11 PM (#4287750)
Oh it's only the building facade? Phew! That's like nothing.
   281. Bourbon Samurai Posted: October 29, 2012 at 07:12 PM (#4287751)
Fire alarm just kicked the wife and I onto the streets for 30 minutes. That's as much hurricane as I care to experience.
   282. Gamingboy Posted: October 29, 2012 at 07:13 PM (#4287752)

Fire alarm just kicked the wife and I onto the streets for 30 minutes. That's as much hurricane as I care to experience.


You guys okay?
   283. DKDC Posted: October 29, 2012 at 07:14 PM (#4287754)
Sandy will always be remembered as a hurricane.

A much better fate than the last named Atlantic storm: Tropical depression Robinson formed in early October but didn't hit anything.
   284. hokieneer Posted: October 29, 2012 at 07:18 PM (#4287756)
So the software company I work for specializes in crisis management, business continuity, and emergency alerts software and consultation. We have a few clients in the NE affected by this storm, so needless to say we have sent out nearly half a million combined txts, phone calls, or emails since Saturday.

Of course that means I need to stay relatively glued to a screen to monitor services, servers, etc to help fix any problems before they become critical issues.
   285. bob gee Posted: October 29, 2012 at 07:18 PM (#4287757)
#272 - here's some information about it:
http://gothamist.com/2012/10/29/photo_facade_sheared_off_manhattan.php
   286. Gamingboy Posted: October 29, 2012 at 07:18 PM (#4287758)
Huffington Post and the Gawker Media sites (Deadspin, etc.) are down. Uhh, where are the servers for BBTF?
   287. Bourbon Samurai Posted: October 29, 2012 at 07:24 PM (#4287763)
You guys okay?


We're ok for now we just had a malfunction in the building wiring. Hopefully the power stays on.
   288. Gamingboy Posted: October 29, 2012 at 07:25 PM (#4287764)
Lights flickering, heard machiney sound. This could be it.
   289. Blastin Posted: October 29, 2012 at 07:26 PM (#4287765)
Lights still on here on the East Side. Buuuut that wind is whipping its way up First Avenue. Woo.
   290. AROM Posted: October 29, 2012 at 07:27 PM (#4287768)
"At this point I'm thinking DC didn't need to shut down for this."

The MARC trains all shut down. My guess is that even if the weather seems bearable, the trains would not have been able to get through today. A few weeks ago they basically shut down for a run of the mill rainstorm, I spent three hours in standing room only for a train to get me home.
   291. Blastin Posted: October 29, 2012 at 07:28 PM (#4287770)
Lots of fire trucks audible outside.
   292. Swedish Chef Posted: October 29, 2012 at 07:32 PM (#4287773)
Huffington Post and the Gawker Media sites (Deadspin, etc.) are down.

So Sandy doesn't like publishers running digital sweatshops.
   293. Gamingboy Posted: October 29, 2012 at 07:32 PM (#4287775)
Good news is that I haven't lost power yet. Bad news is that the WNY wind and rain is still picking up heavily.
   294. Gamingboy Posted: October 29, 2012 at 07:35 PM (#4287777)
Twitter now saying another building collapse. This time in Brooklyn.
   295. Yonder Alonso in misguided trousers (cardinal) Posted: October 29, 2012 at 07:39 PM (#4287782)
Lights still on here on the East Side. Buuuut that wind is whipping its way up First Avenue. Woo.

Lights still on here too--also East Side-- though they just dipped slightly, and the monitor dimmed, for about half a second just now.

My apartment faces north, theoretically away from the wind, but I can still hear it pretty good.
   296. Blastin Posted: October 29, 2012 at 07:40 PM (#4287783)
1st Avenue flooded from 95th to 99th (I live at 100th. Yaaay).

My apt faces east, but I have a balcony.
   297. Crispix reaches boiling point with lackluster play Posted: October 29, 2012 at 07:41 PM (#4287784)
The eye of the storm is about to pass just south of us, on the Maryland-PA border. Surprisingly warm temperatures and only about 10% of people have lost power in most of these counties. One TV station thinks the wind is about to slow down and another one thinks it's getting harder. I'm pretty sure we're going to lose power, hopefully not before the middle of the night.
   298. Gamingboy Posted: October 29, 2012 at 07:43 PM (#4287786)
On TWC and CNN, it's like the water has gone from about a quarter up the anchor's legs to halfway up the anchor's legs in the last 10 minutes.

Oh, and heads up to anybody in Lower Manhattan: ConEd about to shut down power in parts.
   299. Howie Menckel Posted: October 29, 2012 at 07:45 PM (#4287788)

flickering constantly here, but this little engine that could hasn't quit yet. power out in neighboring towns, more than 800K homes in NJ - and in the condos across the quad.

#housemoney

   300. Textbook Editor Posted: October 29, 2012 at 07:47 PM (#4287789)
TE Jr., Little Miss TE, and Mrs. TE are all at my in-laws riding out the storm while I man the pumps/generators here (we flood quite easily). No flooding yet, but in trying to save a birdhouse TE Jr. painted from blowing away, I brought it in the house not knowing a damn finch was in there. Proceeded to flutter around the house while I tried in vain to get it out the open doors, with rain, etc. blowing all around. Glad there were no cameras present. Took 30 minutes to get him out.

I'm stunned I still have power. It won't last, I'm sure of that.
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