No World Series omnichatter today, but there’s the whole fact that there’s a Hurricane/“Frankenstorm” headed towards the East Coast Megalopolis, which, uh, a lot of us live in or near. So discuss that here and, above all else, stay safe.
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302. Blastin
Posted: October 29, 2012 at 06:54 PM (#4287794)
Water creeping north past 99th and 1st.
303. Gamingboy
Posted: October 29, 2012 at 06:58 PM (#4287797)
@CNBC: BREAKING: 30-year-old man found dead apparently trapped underneath tree inside his home 166 Street in New York City - WNBC
And I think I heard that at least one of the people from the Bounty replica are still missing and the guy they did find was "unresponsive" (which could mean either he's dead or he's close to it)
Lights just flickered again up here. Yes, up here. In Western New York.
304. Lassus
Posted: October 29, 2012 at 07:00 PM (#4287799)
Pretty calm here in Utica/the Mohawk Valley still. I mean, lots of wind, but nothing crazy.
We are on the 6th floor of the Holiday Inn, right next to FEMA headquarters. The whole building is lit, and a bunch of staff have been checking into the hotel over the course of the day. I don't know if DC needed to shut down, but I took a very short walk a few minutes ago, and it's pretty intense out there. It isn't as bad as NY looks tone, though.
306. Gamingboy
Posted: October 29, 2012 at 07:02 PM (#4287803)
Anderson Cooper is fading in and out on CNN.
307. Blastin
Posted: October 29, 2012 at 07:02 PM (#4287804)
100th and 1st.
308. Gamingboy
Posted: October 29, 2012 at 07:03 PM (#4287805)
Blastin, have you ever heard Orson Welles' War of the Worlds broadcast?
309. Textbook Editor
Posted: October 29, 2012 at 07:07 PM (#4287807)
Swear to god the story in 300 is true.
End-times-type wind here outside of Philadelphia.
310. Gamingboy
Posted: October 29, 2012 at 07:09 PM (#4287808)
Jeez. I'm scared up here, I can't even fathom what you guys far closer to the sea are going through.
311. Ray (RDP)
Posted: October 29, 2012 at 07:09 PM (#4287809)
It's kind of funny watching tv news reporters standing outside in the eye of the storm telling people to stay in their houses and not dare put first responders in harm's way.
312. Blastin
Posted: October 29, 2012 at 07:10 PM (#4287810)
Heh, yes I have in fact.
I'm on the 5th floor though so unless something is lifted and smashes through our thick windows, we're fine.
313. Gamingboy
Posted: October 29, 2012 at 07:12 PM (#4287813)
Does anyone know if this is a valid twitter feed? It seems legit...
Heh, yes I have in fact.
I'm on the 5th floor though so unless something is lifted and smashes through our thick windows, we're fine.
Okay, good. Because it didn't turn out well for the person who was doing what you've been doing...
314. Blastin
Posted: October 29, 2012 at 07:14 PM (#4287814)
I have a balcony, and we run inside when there's a big gust.
315. Blastin
Posted: October 29, 2012 at 07:15 PM (#4287816)
It's not moving north of 100th though. The street has a valley there. People are out there snapping pics because of how slow it is.
I just got my flight rescheduled for Wednesday evening. Hopefully it will hold. What I find remarkable was that I was able to rebook my flight with Delta via Twitter. I was opening ######## about not getting a automatic rebooking (the way my second flight was automatically rebooked), and a customer service rep got in touch with me. Through direct messages, they were able to give me options and book me a flight.
I should probably treat Wednesday night as tentative, but I am impressed that I was able to use Twitter to smooth out the details of my flight out.
You'd probably have been Humanitarian of the Year if you'd let the bird stay through the storm.
320. Gamingboy
Posted: October 29, 2012 at 07:19 PM (#4287825)
BREAKING NEWS: Anderson Cooper was able to get pizza.
321. Tuque
Posted: October 29, 2012 at 07:20 PM (#4287826)
Dude wait, so there was a finch taking shelter in a birdhouse, hiding from the storm, probably in terror for its life...and you were all like, "#### you, finch! Go die in a hurricane!"
323. Gamingboy
Posted: October 29, 2012 at 07:21 PM (#4287828)
Hearing that people up here have started to lose power and/or cable. Remember, if I stop posting, it means that I've either lost power, or I've been recruited into a Godzilla-fighting government task force.
325. Textbook Editor
Posted: October 29, 2012 at 07:23 PM (#4287830)
#319--I'm not that nice. Had it pooped all over the house it would have been a disaster. I tried getting it into a box (and would have left it in there, overturned, by my back door had I been able to), but it was freaking out so bad the only option was to chase it out any open window/door.
That story in #318 is amazing. Think about how that would have been handled 20 years ago. Amazing.
326. Textbook Editor
Posted: October 29, 2012 at 07:25 PM (#4287832)
Dude wait, so there was a finch taking shelter in a birdhouse, hiding from the storm, probably in terror for its life...and you were all like, "#### you, finch! Go die in a hurricane!"
I guess I am an evil bastard. It was either suffering a bird-poop-filled house or get it the hell out. I'm comfortable with my decision.
FWIW, I wasn't seeking out birds to strand in hurricanes; I thought the birdhouse was empty when I brought it inside.
327. Gamingboy
Posted: October 29, 2012 at 07:28 PM (#4287833)
After the storm, Big Bird will come to Textbook Editor's door. He will say: "You left my cousin to die." And then, he will unleash Muppet-fu upon TE.
So the Hudson river, or at least a small part of it, evidently is in my building here in Hoboken.....funny part is I'm about 6-7 blocks from the river. Fortunately it's still not even up to the first step though. It does smell bad (insert Jersey joke here....)
329. bob gee
Posted: October 29, 2012 at 07:34 PM (#4287837)
harvey - my neighbor has one, he hooked us up in irene last year with his other one. i'm going to get a portable one in a few weeks to prepare for winter.
good luck jeffo. part of bloomfield is actually below sea level. make sure not to go there tomorrow.
However, I am a middle-aged man city dweller with one. Mrs. G gets so annoyed when we do have an outage that I picked up a small one a few years ago. Of course, I've never had to use it.
One of my nearby friends has the full setup, with automatic switching and everything. I plan to visit if things are really bad.
Worse problem when we had a multi-day outage around here was gas stations not having power to run pumps.
331. Gamingboy
Posted: October 29, 2012 at 07:36 PM (#4287843)
This is crazy. Twitter is full of scanner reports of the FDNY and NYPD getting TRAPPED IN THEIR OWN PRECINCTS.
332. Gamingboy
Posted: October 29, 2012 at 07:38 PM (#4287846)
HW, you would be the winner in any BTF survival contest, I am sure.
I read once that the homeless would rather have snow that rain, as getting wet makes one miserable if not dead. Snow can be used as an insulator. But I haven't had to try this out. Well, I did build a snow cave once,and slept in it.
338. Gamingboy
Posted: October 29, 2012 at 07:50 PM (#4287858)
Hang on, I thought Cory Booker was the guy who runs and rescues his own citizens?
339. Gamingboy
Posted: October 29, 2012 at 07:51 PM (#4287862)
Twitter now says that cars are floating down streets in NYC. And this is coming from Governor Cuomo (who, of course, will become our president in 2016).
340. Gamingboy
Posted: October 29, 2012 at 07:52 PM (#4287863)
Wind picking up again....
341. frannyzoo
Posted: October 29, 2012 at 07:53 PM (#4287864)
and now it gets interesting...great photograbs, Sr. Attacks...
342. Lassus
Posted: October 29, 2012 at 07:55 PM (#4287866)
Twitter now says that cars are floating down streets in NYC.
GOOD LORD WHICH STREETS ARGH.
Sorry, New York City is kind of big, so things like "in NYC" drive me nuts. I had to explain to my panicked relatives the distance between Hell's Kitchen and the WTC during 9/11.
343. Randy Jones
Posted: October 29, 2012 at 07:55 PM (#4287867)
I am in downtown Jersey City. The streets on the front and side of my building are flooded now, at least a foot of water or more. I still have power though, obviously, since I am posting here.
344. hokieneer
Posted: October 29, 2012 at 07:57 PM (#4287868)
I read once that the homeless would rather have snow that rain, as getting wet makes one miserable if not dead. Snow can be used as an insulator. But I haven't had to try this out. Well, I did build a snow cave once,and slept in it.
I prefer snow to rain any day. I hate the weather like it is now, 37 and raining. We are on our 60th hour straight of rain here in central WV, with 48 more hours of rain/snow to come. I was once worried about big snow fall and wind, now I'm a little worried we might see some flooding in the hokie household. The lower mountains of WV have already have accumulation of 4-6 inches, with another 2 days of heavy snow/rain to follow.
As to generator:
I never really saw the need for one, even growing up in the country landscape of WV where there are snowstorms and large amounts of power lines above ground. Most of the time when you lose power for more than 24 hours, it's because there has been 1-2 ft of snow dumped on you. In those conditions you can move and bury your perishable foods outside and use kerosene/propane for heat. Of course losing electricity for 7 days in the middle of a heat wave this past summer has made me reevaluate my opinion and I think I might break down and buy a smaller 4-5kw one before "winter" hits.
We always have 30+ gallons of water, 4-6 weeks supply of food, and several container of propane/gasoline/kerosene on hand. My preparations for this Frankenstorm consisted of buying a loaf of bread!
345. Lassus
Posted: October 29, 2012 at 07:57 PM (#4287869)
Weather.com seems to show that the worst of it has passed the city by this point....
Same radar also shows western NY getting it a lot harder than central NY. In fact, Utica, armpit of the weather universe, almost looks like it's going to escape practically unscathed. I mean, maybe. Still early, I guess.
when you have several hundred head of livestock that is the basis of your livelihood being able to keep them in semi-heated conditions and water is kind of key
hence, generators
347. frannyzoo
Posted: October 29, 2012 at 08:02 PM (#4287873)
Lassus: I want to be more optimistic, but "passing" doesn't mean what you think it does. "Subways," on the other hand, might just about equal "Ninth Ward," in a manner of speaking...
348. hokieneer
Posted: October 29, 2012 at 08:03 PM (#4287874)
when you have several hundred head of livestock that is the basis of your livelihood being able to keep them in semi-heated conditions and water is kind of key
pssh, Put 'em on the block and have some burgers.
I understand man. I didn't grow up on a farm, but I lived in the country where there were ample farmers. I bet you don't own the portable generators either.
353. Lassus
Posted: October 29, 2012 at 08:13 PM (#4287880)
Lassus: I want to be more optimistic, but "passing" doesn't mean what you think it does.
Well, the radar shows it physically past NYC, rather than physically heading towards the city, that's all I was reporting.
Thought that was Buffalo
Utica has many additional armpit qualities that bring it to the top (read: bottom) when the weather is bad, which is often.
Anyone else had BBTF go down for them?
Yep.
354. frannyzoo
Posted: October 29, 2012 at 08:16 PM (#4287881)
It's early, and it's Twitterific and otherwise sensationalized, but I think NYC is pretty much officially the new NOLA, circa '95. Congrats...we're into a before/after scenario at this point.
Best wishes to all of you going through this. We make fun to lighten the mood, but all I am going to see from this is a spritzing of rain. Good luck to all of you in the path, and be safe.
Water here up to my 3rd step from lobby in Hoboken (1st & Clinton) - past high tide now. Heard the PATH station is flooded, and the police and first aid personnel had to relocate due to flooding.
Cox Cable TV seems to have gone out in Fairfax County, VA, although power is still on. That's not much to complain about all things considered.
363. bob gee
Posted: October 29, 2012 at 08:31 PM (#4287898)
jeffo - the path station has to be flooded; it was flooded in '93 (or 92, forget which) and that was much less than this. yup, they all went to the only high spot in town (stevens/castle point).
manhattan almost completely dark south of 42nd st...
364. Gamingboy
Posted: October 29, 2012 at 08:38 PM (#4287902)
Saw on Twitter a picture of a Hoboken PATH station with water rushing in. This is going to be ugly tomorrow.
365. Lassus
Posted: October 29, 2012 at 08:40 PM (#4287903)
Gamingboy - it is not even RAINING here in rural Mohawk Valley. It's kind of weird.
366. Gamingboy
Posted: October 29, 2012 at 08:42 PM (#4287905)
Gamingboy - it is not even RAINING here in rural Mohawk Valley. It's kind of weird.
Unbelievable. There have been at least three occasions that I thought I was about to lose power, and Utica isn't getting anything?
CNN web page won't load for me at all.
Chrome can't connect to www.cnn.com.
Here in London ON, (2 hours east of Detroit, 2 hours west of Toronto), we've had the power flicker once (yeah UPS battery!) and a lot of rain and strong winds.
372. frannyzoo
Posted: October 29, 2012 at 08:47 PM (#4287914)
Six feet of water in the streets of Evangeline....Louisiana...Louisiana....they're tryin' to wash us away...they're tryin' to wash us away...
373. base ball chick
Posted: October 29, 2012 at 08:48 PM (#4287915)
hope youse guys are OK
i know ALL about hurricanes
they say sandy is twice the size of ike, which was freaking enormous for such a low wind hurricane.
which reminds me, anyone know where they put the subway trains seeing as how they would get flooded along with the subways?
374. Lassus
Posted: October 29, 2012 at 08:48 PM (#4287916)
Unbelievable. There have been at least three occasions that I thought I was about to lose power, and Utica isn't getting anything?
I'm 10 or so miles from Utica in a liberal college town enclave, but it's absolutely dead quiet. It's sprinkled and blown here and there, but that's it.
which reminds me, anyone know where they put the subway trains seeing as how they would get flooded along with the subways?
Pulled out into various yards. No idea how the yards are doing, one is pretty low over near the Hudson between 30th and 34th.
375. Blastin
Posted: October 29, 2012 at 08:48 PM (#4287917)
Update from 1st ave and 100th. Flooding from 94th to 102nd. Still power in my building.
But lord. My apt complex is surrounded. We're on an island here.
376. Textbook Editor
Posted: October 29, 2012 at 08:49 PM (#4287918)
That pic of 34th street and 1st ave is unreal. I've been by that intersection dozens of times the past few years. That must mean NYU's medical center also has water coming in. Unreal.
377. bob gee
Posted: October 29, 2012 at 08:50 PM (#4287921)
bbc - the subways outside of manhattan go above ground. i believe there's a spot in queens (and i'm sure the other boros as well) which would be where they are stored.
a friend of mine is a conductor on one of the lines and had to help drive trains out from manhattan on sunday.
Ah I see - a floating truck took out a chunk of our garage door, and that's when the water rushed in. Has stabilized where it was earlier - very murky and smells like gas. But....somehow still have power - so I'll take that trade off.
Hope everyone here is staying safe and (relatively) dry.
383. Tuque
Posted: October 29, 2012 at 08:57 PM (#4287933)
I used to live at 12th and 1st Ave so that picture at 14th and C is ####### blowing my mind. I used to walk through that intersection down to the water and up along the East River sometimes.
384. frannyzoo
Posted: October 29, 2012 at 08:57 PM (#4287934)
Personally, I'm concerned about Ray's availability of various cold cuts and the chance of a last-second choice between corned beef and pastrami. It's bothersome to think he might be limited in such choices, doncha think?
385. Gamingboy
Posted: October 29, 2012 at 09:00 PM (#4287936)
Y'know, if Ray actually gets hurt in all of this, we're all going to feel pretty bad. So, uh, Ray, if you are reading this: Don't die.
Can someone who understands this stuff better than I explain why NYC is getting so slammed while the eye of the hurricane passed within a few miles of my house (I'm in Wilmington, DE) and the worst I've seen was my lights flickering out for a brief second?
387. Gamingboy
Posted: October 29, 2012 at 09:03 PM (#4287938)
Can someone who understands this stuff better than I explain why NYC is getting so slammed while the eye of the hurricane passed within a few miles of my house (I'm in Wilmington, DE) and the worst I've seen was my lights flickering out for a brief second?
389. Gamingboy
Posted: October 29, 2012 at 09:03 PM (#4287940)
Ground Zero (or at least the construction area around it) IS flooded.
Also, places near me have power out, so I wouldn't be surprised if I lose it as they fix them.
390. frannyzoo
Posted: October 29, 2012 at 09:05 PM (#4287941)
Let me state for the record that I don't want Ray to die...on the other hand, that ASL interpreter for Boomberg just now...she could suffer carpal-tunnel and I would be largely unaffected, emotionally speaking. That was beyond interpretive dance painful, it was....
391. Mayor Blomberg
Posted: October 29, 2012 at 09:05 PM (#4287942)
386 - you were on the "clean side." the winds run counter-clockwise, so the worst rain and surge come up counterclockwise; what you'r getting is what's been over land, slowed, and dried.
Personally, I'm concerned about Ray's availability of various cold cuts and the chance of a last-second choice between corned beef and pastrami. It's bothersome to think he might be limited in such choices, doncha think?
What's up with this corned beef in a hurricane meme? Can somebody explain this to me? The Googlez yield nothin'.
393. Mayor Blomberg
Posted: October 29, 2012 at 09:09 PM (#4287944)
ConEdison explosion on 14th & C, down where I used to play Little League.
explosion starts at0:25
394. Gamingboy
Posted: October 29, 2012 at 09:09 PM (#4287945)
Seems like most of the bad stuff is past NYC, per the interwebs.
395. Tuque
Posted: October 29, 2012 at 09:11 PM (#4287948)
Can someone who understands this stuff better than I explain why NYC is getting so slammed while the eye of the hurricane passed within a few miles of my house (I'm in Wilmington, DE) and the worst I've seen was my lights flickering out for a brief second?
basically, strong winds blew seawater into NYC at the same time as high-tide. so, you got the worst of the storm surge at the worst possible time.
I don't wish Ray to die, nor neither to him suffer (well, maybe a little).
The fact that 200 of his neighbors who wouldn't normally buy a loaf of bread did because they might not be able to eat out in the coming days and that a woman had the audacity to buy at 36 pack of AAA batteries pissed him off so much during the last storm makes Ray the least entitled to our sympathy should he suffer inconvenience due to the storm.
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And I think I heard that at least one of the people from the Bounty replica are still missing and the guy they did find was "unresponsive" (which could mean either he's dead or he's close to it)
Lights just flickered again up here. Yes, up here. In Western New York.
End-times-type wind here outside of Philadelphia.
I'm on the 5th floor though so unless something is lifted and smashes through our thick windows, we're fine.
Heh, yes I have in fact.
I'm on the 5th floor though so unless something is lifted and smashes through our thick windows, we're fine.
Okay, good. Because it didn't turn out well for the person who was doing what you've been doing...
nobody had been loony enough to do that type of reporting.
now it's standard. tv folks fight for the chance
so, thank dan rather
I should probably treat Wednesday night as tentative, but I am impressed that I was able to use Twitter to smooth out the details of my flight out.
You'd probably have been Humanitarian of the Year if you'd let the bird stay through the storm.
You should run for mayor.
pizza is not a sandwich
That story in #318 is amazing. Think about how that would have been handled 20 years ago. Amazing.
I guess I am an evil bastard. It was either suffering a bird-poop-filled house or get it the hell out. I'm comfortable with my decision.
FWIW, I wasn't seeking out birds to strand in hurricanes; I thought the birdhouse was empty when I brought it inside.
(He has similar plans in case Romney wins)
good luck jeffo. part of bloomfield is actually below sea level. make sure not to go there tomorrow.
You are the only wise, old man, HW.
However, I am a middle-aged man city dweller with one. Mrs. G gets so annoyed when we do have an outage that I picked up a small one a few years ago. Of course, I've never had to use it.
One of my nearby friends has the full setup, with automatic switching and everything. I plan to visit if things are really bad.
Worse problem when we had a multi-day outage around here was gas stations not having power to run pumps.
i was mostly funning
i actually have various forms of backup.
leftover from the days of a having a working farm and animals that needed tending.
i did do the tropical storm thing way back in the armed forces. if pushed i would choose wind/rain over bitter cold and snow
but that's me
Lights are flickering up here on the UWS.
14 street and Avenue C
Power out in Greenwich Village
34th and 1st
Stuyvesant Town
Coverage from the Daily News, whose own building's first floor is flooded, as is the FDNY headquarters
Something called "Jane's Carousel" appears to be an island.
I read once that the homeless would rather have snow that rain, as getting wet makes one miserable if not dead. Snow can be used as an insulator. But I haven't had to try this out. Well, I did build a snow cave once,and slept in it.
GOOD LORD WHICH STREETS ARGH.
Sorry, New York City is kind of big, so things like "in NYC" drive me nuts. I had to explain to my panicked relatives the distance between Hell's Kitchen and the WTC during 9/11.
I prefer snow to rain any day. I hate the weather like it is now, 37 and raining. We are on our 60th hour straight of rain here in central WV, with 48 more hours of rain/snow to come. I was once worried about big snow fall and wind, now I'm a little worried we might see some flooding in the hokie household. The lower mountains of WV have already have accumulation of 4-6 inches, with another 2 days of heavy snow/rain to follow.
As to generator:
I never really saw the need for one, even growing up in the country landscape of WV where there are snowstorms and large amounts of power lines above ground. Most of the time when you lose power for more than 24 hours, it's because there has been 1-2 ft of snow dumped on you. In those conditions you can move and bury your perishable foods outside and use kerosene/propane for heat. Of course losing electricity for 7 days in the middle of a heat wave this past summer has made me reevaluate my opinion and I think I might break down and buy a smaller 4-5kw one before "winter" hits.
We always have 30+ gallons of water, 4-6 weeks supply of food, and several container of propane/gasoline/kerosene on hand. My preparations for this Frankenstorm consisted of buying a loaf of bread!
Same radar also shows western NY getting it a lot harder than central NY. In fact, Utica, armpit of the weather universe, almost looks like it's going to escape practically unscathed. I mean, maybe. Still early, I guess.
when you have several hundred head of livestock that is the basis of your livelihood being able to keep them in semi-heated conditions and water is kind of key
hence, generators
pssh, Put 'em on the block and have some burgers.
I understand man. I didn't grow up on a farm, but I lived in the country where there were ample farmers. I bet you don't own the portable generators either.
Thought that was Buffalo.
REPORT: Heavy volumes of water on West St + Washington St. Cars floating down West St. Little water at #WTC so far #Sandy -Cuomo
watch the perv talk mister
Well, the radar shows it physically past NYC, rather than physically heading towards the city, that's all I was reporting.
Thought that was Buffalo
Utica has many additional armpit qualities that bring it to the top (read: bottom) when the weather is bad, which is often.
Anyone else had BBTF go down for them?
Yep.
Take your word for it. Flickers up here in Toronto...
manhattan almost completely dark south of 42nd st...
Unbelievable. There have been at least three occasions that I thought I was about to lose power, and Utica isn't getting anything?
I want to see pictures before I believe this.
Edit - Cokes all around.
Chrome can't connect to www.cnn.com.
Here in London ON, (2 hours east of Detroit, 2 hours west of Toronto), we've had the power flicker once (yeah UPS battery!) and a lot of rain and strong winds.
Hang tight, my American East Coast brothers!
i know ALL about hurricanes
they say sandy is twice the size of ike, which was freaking enormous for such a low wind hurricane.
which reminds me, anyone know where they put the subway trains seeing as how they would get flooded along with the subways?
I'm 10 or so miles from Utica in a liberal college town enclave, but it's absolutely dead quiet. It's sprinkled and blown here and there, but that's it.
which reminds me, anyone know where they put the subway trains seeing as how they would get flooded along with the subways?
Pulled out into various yards. No idea how the yards are doing, one is pretty low over near the Hudson between 30th and 34th.
But lord. My apt complex is surrounded. We're on an island here.
a friend of mine is a conductor on one of the lines and had to help drive trains out from manhattan on sunday.
They've just confirmed there is no flooding at the NYSE.
Hope everyone here is staying safe and (relatively) dry.
No effing idea.
Seconded. Offline now, take care all.
Also, places near me have power out, so I wouldn't be surprised if I lose it as they fix them.
What's up with this corned beef in a hurricane meme? Can somebody explain this to me? The Googlez yield nothin'.
explosion starts at0:25
Woah holy ####.
The fact that 200 of his neighbors who wouldn't normally buy a loaf of bread did because they might not be able to eat out in the coming days and that a woman had the audacity to buy at 36 pack of AAA batteries pissed him off so much during the last storm makes Ray the least entitled to our sympathy should he suffer inconvenience due to the storm.
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