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The Official Mets Fan Self-Immolation Thread

For those of you who can’t bear to continue. (Thanks to Gold Star For Robot Boy for the idea.)

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801. Stormy JE

Posted: May 03, 2018 at 10:09 AM (#5665112)

I'm immolating...

"Money in the banana stand?" It's been a while since I heard that line...

802. PreservedFish Posted: May 03, 2018 at 10:15 AM (#5665116)

No immolation for me this year. Had zero expectations going into the season.

803. Lassus Posted: May 03, 2018 at 10:16 AM (#5665117)

Oh joy. What now then, Harvey back to the rotation, or someone else?

I think I heard Keith and Ron say they thought it would be Lugo, but just as baseless speculation.

804. Lassus Posted: May 03, 2018 at 10:16 AM (#5665118)

No immolation for me this year. Had zero expectations going into the season.

Reasonable. I'm sadly not that strong.

805. The Interdimensional Council of Rickey!'s Posted: May 03, 2018 at 10:21 AM (#5665123)

I love this thread.

806. The usual palaver and twaddle (Met Fan Charlie) Posted: May 03, 2018 at 10:31 AM (#5665136)

You're a wonderful, compassionate humanitarian, Sam...

807. PreservedFish Posted: May 03, 2018 at 10:36 AM (#5665141)

The truth is I've been kind of numb since Luis Castillo dropped that pop-up.

808. Stormy JE

Posted: May 03, 2018 at 10:52 AM (#5665164)

The truth is I've been kind of numb since Luis Castillo dropped that pop-up.

Worst. Ballpark. Experience. Ever.

809. Lassus Posted: May 03, 2018 at 10:58 AM (#5665175)

Worst. Ballpark. Experience. Ever.

I was working at MLBAM that night. That was also very, very, very bad.

810. PreservedFish Posted: May 03, 2018 at 11:06 AM (#5665181)

I was watching in my apartment in Noe Valley, and after the game I walked zombie-like to a favorite burrito spot, for food comfort, and there I saw another guy wearing a Mets hat, and we just look at each other and shook our heads. Honestly, that day was a sea change in my fanhood, since then I've been unable to reach the heights of emotional investment that I was once capable of. Even when the Mets lost the world series, even when Duda threw that ball away, it caused me no more than a few minutes of pain. I think it's better this way, to be honest, but it wasn't a conscious decision, it's a post-traumatic coping mechanism.

811. Howie Menckel Posted: May 03, 2018 at 11:12 AM (#5665186)

ABORT! ABORT! ABORT!

10:45 AM ET

Jacob deGrom's MRI on his hyperextended right elbow revealed no ligament damage, the Mets announced on Thursday morning. The ace right-hander has been cleared to prepare for his next start, but he will be monitored for soreness and other potential setbacks.

812. Stormy JE

Posted: May 03, 2018 at 11:12 AM (#5665187)

I think it's better this way, to be honest, but it wasn't a conscious decision, it's a post-traumatic coping mechanism.

Might that perspective change again the next time the Mets win the World Series?

813. The usual palaver and twaddle (Met Fan Charlie) Posted: May 03, 2018 at 11:13 AM (#5665190)

Nothing to see here...everything is fine...everything. is. fine... everything. is. fine...EVERYTHING! IS! FINE!

Is it just me or does this remind anybody of Syndergaard's refused MRI last year?

EDIT: Frosty brew to Howie.

814. PreservedFish Posted: May 03, 2018 at 11:16 AM (#5665196)

Might that perspective change again the next time the Mets win the World Series?

I think that if they had won 2015 series while I would have enjoyed it hugely, obviously, it wouldn't have been quite as intensely satisfying because I am now a bit more emotionally distant from the team.

815. The usual palaver and twaddle (Met Fan Charlie) Posted: May 03, 2018 at 11:17 AM (#5665197)

810

Honestly, that day was a sea change in my fanhood, since then I've been unable to reach the heights of emotional investment that I was once capable of.

I've had that -- off & on -- since 1992.

816. Lassus Posted: May 03, 2018 at 11:29 AM (#5665207)

Jacob deGrom's MRI on his hyperextended right elbow revealed no ligament damage, the Mets announced on Thursday morning. The ace right-hander has been cleared to prepare for his next start, but he will be monitored for soreness and other potential setbacks.

You can't give him one ####### start off, really?

817. Howie Menckel Posted: May 03, 2018 at 11:39 AM (#5665220)

what could go wrong?

818. The usual palaver and twaddle (Met Fan Charlie) Posted: May 03, 2018 at 11:44 AM (#5665222)

You can't give him one ####### start off, really?

Well, I trust Mickey/Eiland on this a helluva lot more than I ever trusted Collins/Warthen, so there's that.

819. snapper (history's 42nd greatest monster) Posted: May 03, 2018 at 11:55 AM (#5665234)

You can't give him one ####### start off, really?

Skipping a start would seem prudent. Give Harvey a go.

820. Stormy JE

Posted: May 03, 2018 at 12:02 PM (#5665246)

Give Harvey a go.

I don't like you anymore.

821. The Anthony Kennedy of BBTF (Scott) Posted: May 03, 2018 at 04:04 PM (#5665566)

I'll be at the Saturday and Sunday games, so if you see someone go up in flames during the game you can probably guess who it is. At least I'll have a Cespedes gnome.

822. Panik on the streets of London (Trout! Trout!) Posted: May 03, 2018 at 04:27 PM (#5665602)

Reasonable. I'm sadly not that strong.

Just when I thought I was out, they keep pulling me back in!

823. The Anthony Kennedy of BBTF (Scott) Posted: May 06, 2018 at 11:23 AM (#5667259)

Light me up.

824. The usual palaver and twaddle (Met Fan Charlie) Posted: May 10, 2018 at 09:46 AM (#5669888)

Oh, Mickey, you're so blind...

825. Panik on the streets of London (Trout! Trout!) Posted: May 10, 2018 at 10:25 AM (#5669911)

It figures that after they get a win to bust a losing streak, the starting pitcher the next day for the opposition is named Luis Castillo. I don't believe in bad omens; but if I did, that would be one.

826. Hysterical & Useless Posted: May 10, 2018 at 10:58 AM (#5669935)

Honestly, that day was a sea change in my fanhood, since then I've been unable to reach the heights of emotional investment that I was once capable of.

I've had that -- off & on -- since 1992.

1988 for me. Beat the Dodgers like a drum all year, then lose in 7 after taking a 2-1 lead in games and having game 5 all but won. Didn't sleep at all that night. Stupid way for a so-called adult to live.

Nowadays wouldn't make much difference, I never sleep well regardless. Maybe it's time to start caring again.

827. Panik on the streets of London (Trout! Trout!) Posted: May 10, 2018 at 11:06 AM (#5669942)

The most traumatizing period for me was probably 2006-2009. I remember being disappointed in 87 and 88 though even though I was 8 and 9.

828. Lassus Posted: May 18, 2018 at 06:42 PM (#5675397)

HEY NOW!

It was worse than the Mets feared.

Juan Lagares will likely miss the rest of the season after completely tearing the plantar plate in his big toe. Lagares suffered the injury banging into the wall Wednesday chasing a Gio Urshela fly ball in the Mets’ loss to the Blue Jays.

Initial X-rays were negative, but an MRI revealed the extent of the injury.

The injury further weakens the Mets’ outfield after Yoenis Cespedes was placed on the disabled list on Wednesday with a mild strain of his right hip flexor.

WHEEEEE!

829. Howie Menckel Posted: May 18, 2018 at 07:25 PM (#5675403)

I expect Timo Perez to be brought in as OF depth

830. Don August(us) Cesar Geronimo Berroa Posted: May 23, 2018 at 08:47 AM (#5677923)

just wanted to post that Matt Harvey has a 2.57 era and a 0.929 WHIP with the Reds

831. Lassus Posted: May 23, 2018 at 08:53 AM (#5677924)

Well done.

832. Don August(us) Cesar Geronimo Berroa Posted: May 23, 2018 at 09:25 AM (#5677951)

Thank you. Though, I see Mesoraco is slugging well over .500...

833. Panik on the streets of London (Trout! Trout!) Posted: May 23, 2018 at 10:53 AM (#5678016)

I encourage the Reds to pay Harvey/Boras at the end of the season. I'm sure that will work out well.

834. Adam Starblind Posted: May 23, 2018 at 11:03 AM (#5678028)

Lagares suffered the injury banging into the wall Wednesday chasing a Gio Urshela fly ball in the Mets’ loss to the Blue Jays.

He tore a ligament stubbing his toe??? METS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

835. Panik on the streets of London (Trout! Trout!) Posted: May 23, 2018 at 11:14 AM (#5678041)

Now Cespedes isn't coming off the DL right away either. Gonna be running that AAAA lineup out there for another couple weeks it looks like.

836. Adam Starblind Posted: May 23, 2018 at 04:11 PM (#5678384)

Yet they're 24-20. Not exactly immolation territory. Just disappointing given the way the year started.

Hopefully they can hang on until some of their major leaguers come back.

837. The usual palaver and twaddle (Met Fan Charlie) Posted: May 29, 2018 at 02:58 PM (#5681521)

And Noah Syndergaard hits the DL with a strained ligament in his right index finger.

See yooooouuuuu...in Septeeeeembeeeer....

838. formerly dp Posted: May 29, 2018 at 03:28 PM (#5681563)

Injured playing Fortnight?

839. The usual palaver and twaddle (Met Fan Charlie) Posted: May 30, 2018 at 10:18 AM (#5682095)

Add Matz to the pile. And another walkoff loss to Atlanta.

That's 5 games this past week that could've (should've) been wins that weren't. They could (should) be 10 games over .500

840. formerly dp Posted: May 30, 2018 at 10:37 AM (#5682119)

Yeah this is shitty & depressing. But Robles & Ramos are both down, and Swarzak is taking his damn sweet time coming back, *and* Blevins is broken, so this is where we are.

At least the offense is working a little--don't know if anyone expected Nimmo to be slugging over .500. The consensus earlier in the season seemed to be A-Gon to the bench and Bruce to 1B, but A-Gon is outhitting Bruce by a decent margin right now (and Dom Smith is just sucking a tailpipe in Vegas). Amed's hitting .313/.353/.594 in his last 10.

841. Panik on the streets of London (Trout! Trout!) Posted: May 30, 2018 at 10:41 AM (#5682126)

26-26. 110 games left in the season. To get to 90 they need to go 64-46. If they get healthy and stay there it is not unpossible.

842. formerly dp Posted: May 30, 2018 at 10:47 AM (#5682133)

If they get healthy and stay there it is not unpossible.

The problem is they're trending in the opposite direction..

843. Panik on the streets of London (Trout! Trout!) Posted: May 30, 2018 at 10:55 AM (#5682146)

As much as it seems like injuries are contagious sometimes, they are not. It doesn't appear that either Noah's or Matz's injury is serious, and I think Frazier and Cespedes will be back soon. Some changes need to be made for sure, and I definitely feel like the last week of games has been water torture; but in reality I think this team will play good baseball when they are all healthy again. I hope LOL

844. formerly dp Posted: May 30, 2018 at 11:13 AM (#5682168)

The issue with Cespedes and Frazier is that these things could linger for a while, even after they're back. Frazier though said he's taking advice from Reyes about returning too soon and reinjuring, which is a good sign. Just as long as he closes his ears if Jose starts offering hitting tips...

845. Panik on the streets of London (Trout! Trout!) Posted: May 30, 2018 at 11:28 AM (#5682191)

Nats-Braves this weekend should be very interesting. It is definitely frustrating that Jose is still on this team. I hope he is the first one gone when Frazier returns.

846. zack Posted: May 30, 2018 at 06:38 PM (#5682626)

Has Citi Field finally become self-aware? And, at least for Metsdom, to know thyself is to loathe thyself.

847. bunyon Posted: May 30, 2018 at 07:05 PM (#5682634)

Having your stadium burn is a good thing in the NL East.

848. Howie Menckel Posted: May 30, 2018 at 07:30 PM (#5682646)

MGR Mickey Calloway told media today "I haven't slept for a week" and "we've hit rock bottom."

if one of the veteran beat guys had interrupted him and said, "You must be new here," he'd never have had to pay for a beer in Queens ever again.

849. Adam Starblind Posted: June 26, 2018 at 06:46 PM (#5700126)

#OmarsTeam

850. Howie Menckel Posted: June 26, 2018 at 06:54 PM (#5700133)

updating 848: the Mets, since their manager claimed they had hit "rock bottom," have gone 5-19

851. Stormy JE

Posted: June 26, 2018 at 06:55 PM (#5700134)

Yeah, how the hell did Omar find his way back to Queens? Too bad we can't stick him inside the first base coaching box, as there's already a GM reject positioned there.

852. This is going to be state of the art wall Posted: June 26, 2018 at 09:19 PM (#5700222)

Robert Raiola, CPA
‏

@SportsTaxMan
15m15 minutes ago
More
This season the #Mets will pay Bobby Bonilla $1,193,248

This season the #Yankees will pay Aaron Judge & Luis Severino a combined total of $1,227,275

853. Don August(us) Cesar Geronimo Berroa Posted: July 01, 2018 at 07:24 PM (#5703353)

Just wanted to drop in and say that Matt Harvey threw 5 2/3 shutout innings against the first-place Brewers today. Era down to 3.86 as a Red.

854. Adam Starblind Posted: July 01, 2018 at 07:47 PM (#5703356)

Just wanted to drop in and say that Matt Harvey threw 5 2/3 shutout innings against the first-place Brewers today. Era down to 3.86 as a Red.

It doesn't matter. Headcase never would have done that as a Met.

855. Adam Starblind Posted: September 13, 2018 at 09:08 PM (#5744079)

This thread started 9 days after David Wright's first game.

856. Howie Menckel Posted: September 13, 2018 at 10:54 PM (#5744143)

I was going to object to this being an inappropriate time to revive this legendary thread.

but..... carry on

857. Banta Posted: September 14, 2018 at 10:41 AM (#5744287)

I was always disappointed at myself that I didn't post in this thread when it first went up. I was reading this site for sure (I may have Ackbared a time or two back when we weren't being tracked). So today I wanted to see how early I did post in this thread... Shocked it was still 2005! Cripes. What a life.

Happy sails, Mr. Wright. It's been a pleasure.

858. stig-tossled, hornswoggled gef the typing mongoose Posted: September 14, 2018 at 11:08 AM (#5744327)

Wow. The start of this thread predates my join date by nearly half a year, though I'm pretty positive I monitored it before that as a non-Primate, mainly because Kazmir's debut as a Ray property came here in Montgomery (in a game I attended). That was the franchise's first year; the roster included the likes of Joey Gathright & Melvin Upton. Also James Shields, who obviously is older than I realized.

859. The usual palaver and twaddle (Met Fan Charlie) Posted: September 14, 2018 at 11:17 AM (#5744336)

This thread started 9 days after David Wright's first game.

Amazin'!

860. Lassus Posted: September 14, 2018 at 11:26 AM (#5744345)

Happy sails, Mr. Wright. It's been a pleasure.

I hope that game is a sellout.

861. The usual palaver and twaddle (Met Fan Charlie) Posted: September 14, 2018 at 11:30 AM (#5744351)

Happy sails, Mr. Wright. It's been a pleasure.

I hope that game is a sellout.

All indications are that it is already. Wayne Randazzo on the radio broadcast of game 1 yesterday was saying SRO was going for a pretty penny.

I already had tickets as part of my season plan, so YAY ME!

862. Swoboda is freedom Posted: September 14, 2018 at 02:44 PM (#5744494)

Happy sails, Mr. Wright. It's been a pleasure.

I wish him well, but wonder what is his long term prognosis for being able to live a pain free non athletic life.

863. Never Give an Inge (Dave) Posted: September 14, 2018 at 02:52 PM (#5744499)

Glad to see that I posted on the first page of the thread...and then didn't post on it again for 11 years :)

Anyway, I'm pretty sure the game is sold out now. I bought tickets to the Sunday game a few days ago, thinking that if Wright came back it would be for the last game of the season, not the penultimate game. At that time, tickets in the section I bought were going for about $50 each on Stubhub. After the announcement they were going for closer to $500 apiece.

864. Meatwad Posted: September 15, 2018 at 01:29 AM (#5744767)

So this thread is going to last longer than Wrights career. Thats so mets

865. Hysterical & Useless Posted: September 15, 2018 at 07:14 AM (#5744774)

Alas, didn't have my computer when I heard of the announcement, so this morning was the first I could check tickets. Standing room currently $131 and up on StubHub. Would love to be there to give DW many standing Os, but not if every O I give is a standing one, unless it's only $50 or so.

Anybody besides Charley going to the game?

866. Howie Menckel Posted: September 15, 2018 at 09:53 AM (#5744797)

I'll be there

867. Hysterical & Useless Posted: September 15, 2018 at 10:05 AM (#5744800)

Then you're cheering double, okay?

868. Howie Menckel Posted: December 10, 2018 at 11:39 PM (#5796449)

ruh roh

Mike Puma
‏Verified account @NYPost_Mets
25m25 minutes ago

There have been discussions, a source confirms, on a potential 3-way trade between the Mets, Yankees and Marlins that would bring J.T. Realmuto to Flushing and could send Noah Syndergaard to the Bronx.

869. manchestermets Posted: December 11, 2018 at 05:38 AM (#5796464)

Why can't the Mets just give the Marlins the non-prospects and scrubs the Marlins would no doubt get out of that deal themselves, without getting the Yankees involved?

870. Adam Starblind Posted: December 11, 2018 at 07:18 AM (#5796469)

If the Mets trade Noah Syndergaard to the Yankees I am done with them. Say what you want about Sandy, but he understood the bond that fans form with certain players. Who exactly is the face of this franchise if not Syndergaard? And to trade him to the Yankees? To paraphrase Jon Stewart, I'd rather walk in on my wife @&!*ing the Yankees. Almost.

871. manchestermets Posted: December 11, 2018 at 07:29 AM (#5796471)

Who exactly is the face of this franchise if not Syndergaard?

deGrom?

(Not that that means they should consider trading Syndegaard, of course.)

872. The Anthony Kennedy of BBTF (Scott) Posted: April 20, 2019 at 09:36 AM (#5833708)

Well, ####.

873. Howie Menckel Posted: April 20, 2019 at 01:53 PM (#5833756)

not to go against the spirit of the thread, but I saw the full deGrom interview and I suspect they have dodged a bullet here. he just had an MRI a couple of weeks ago before signing the contract, and no issues at all. plus he had a fever and strep throat, and a sore back as far as full body soreness (he's human!). so with all that, and a little discomfort, he informed the club.

Greg Joyce
‏Verified account @GJoyce9
50m50 minutes ago

deGrom: "I've had Tommy John before and done those tests and everything feels fine with that. I'm not really worried about the spot it's in, it's just more being smart and not trying to go out there and do too much too early and risk a more serious injury." #Mets

874. Banta Posted: April 20, 2019 at 07:09 PM (#5833852)

Howie, posting in this thread without a diasaster to report on is tantamount to pulling a fire alarm without fire. I assumed that deGrom had spontaneously combusted when I saw this thread up!

875. Howie Menckel Posted: April 20, 2019 at 10:36 PM (#5833882)

oh no, the resumption is totally justified.

"deGrom soreness elbow MRI" easily trips the wire

I was checking for supplies myself - and still might. I'm just suggesting that Mets fans not get too far down the immolation road just yet. but it may be necessary still

876. The Anthony Kennedy of BBTF (Scott) Posted: April 20, 2019 at 11:15 PM (#5833894)

It's not Howie bringing up the thread, it's me.

877. Banta Posted: April 21, 2019 at 01:45 PM (#5833951)

Yeah, I suck. I guess I needed your post to be in neon flashing lights, Scott.

878. Howie Menckel Posted: April 21, 2019 at 01:54 PM (#5833953)

I took no offense, Banta.

879. The Anthony Kennedy of BBTF (Scott) Posted: April 21, 2019 at 02:23 PM (#5833960)

No worries! Just didn't want Howie getting blamed for that.

880. Howie Menckel Posted: May 05, 2019 at 05:32 PM (#5838594)

unlike the deGrom false alarm (we think), here's one that might prove worthy of a light:

Tim Healey
‏Verified account @timbhealey
24m24 minutes ago

Mets news: Steven Matz is going to back to New York. He’s having a nerve issue in his forearm, Mickey Callaway said.

881. Howie Menckel Posted: May 05, 2019 at 08:03 PM (#5838610)

Updating: Set Phasers on "STUN"

Steve Gelbs
‏Verified account @SteveGelbs
3h3 hours ago

Steven Matz is on his way back to NY. Callaway says he has a nerve issue in his forearm. Mickey says he’s been battling it for two weeks, but was unable to throw his most recent bullpen.

882. Esoteric Posted: May 05, 2019 at 08:20 PM (#5838615)

In a weird way, this is one of the best threads to ever exist on Primer.

883. The Yankee Clapper Posted: May 05, 2019 at 09:36 PM (#5838632)

Mickey says he’s been battling it for two weeks, but was unable to throw his most recent bullpen.

No need to take a look at it until he couldn’t throw? Hmmm.

884. Banta Posted: May 05, 2019 at 10:50 PM (#5838662)

What about Vargas? I guess that belongs in the Official Mets Fan Self-Gratification thread. It's gonna be hard to dig that one up.

885. bobm Posted: May 05, 2019 at 11:19 PM (#5838664)

[884] Official Mets Fan Self-Gratification thread

It links to this story. :-)

886. Howie Menckel Posted: May 05, 2019 at 11:54 PM (#5838667)

great pull there, Bob (so to speak)

I went to high school with one of the three ladies in the link, so I remember that story well. she wore a "Modified Farrah," I think they called it, BITD

887. Panik on the streets of London (Trout! Trout!) Posted: May 06, 2019 at 08:21 AM (#5838679)

No need to take a look at it until he couldn’t throw? Hmmm.

Not only did they not take a look at it, but they used him as a PINCH HITTER during the 18 inning game the other day.

888. manchestermets Posted: May 20, 2019 at 04:11 PM (#5843912)

@MetsBooth:

Cespedes had a violent fall at the ranch, stepped in a hole, suffered an ankle fracture, is being further evaluated at Hospital for Special Surgery. #JustBecause

889. formerly dp Posted: May 20, 2019 at 05:22 PM (#5843959)

Fortunately, I saved my emergency supply of dousing gasoline...

890. The usual palaver and twaddle (Met Fan Charlie) Posted: June 24, 2019 at 12:57 PM (#5855352)

Looks like the Mets' clubhouse is doing the self-immolation bit...and not on purpose...

891. Master of the Horse Posted: June 24, 2019 at 01:21 PM (#5855361)

So what's the story on this thread? Can anyone summarize or if I want to know start on page 1 and do my own research?

892. Never Give an Inge (Dave) Posted: June 24, 2019 at 01:25 PM (#5855364)

It was originally posted when the Mets traded away Scott Kazmir for Victor Zambrano. Since then, people keep reviving whenever it's needed or appropriate.

893. Master of the Horse Posted: June 24, 2019 at 01:56 PM (#5855382)

892--thank you

894. Bote Man Posted: June 24, 2019 at 03:17 PM (#5855427)

people keep reviving whenever it's needed or appropriate.

Any day ending in "Y".

895. The usual palaver and twaddle (Met Fan Charlie) Posted: June 24, 2019 at 03:22 PM (#5855429)

people keep reviving whenever it's needed or appropriate.

Any day ending in "Y".

You got your own problems, Bote...

896. Adam Starblind Posted: June 25, 2019 at 08:59 AM (#5855606)

It was originally posted when the Mets traded away Scott Kazmir for Victor Zambrano.

Don't forget Justin Huber and Matt Peterson for Kris Benson (had a couple of more moving pieces, but that was the net result). That one seemed almost as bad at the time. Peterson was their second best pitching prospect, and Huber was a catcher in AA with a .400 OBP.

897. formerly dp Posted: June 25, 2019 at 10:55 AM (#5855635)

Don't forget Justin Huber and Matt Peterson for Kris Benson (had a couple of more moving pieces, but that was the net result). That one seemed almost as bad at the time. Peterson was their second best pitching prospect, and Huber was a catcher in AA with a .400 OBP.

Yeah maybe a nice reminder not to get too worked up over dealing non-elite prospects...but still what a CF the whole Broxton thing was. The JD Davis trade looks to be working out, except that the Mets have one position for 3 guys. If Cespedes wasn't a ####### & Nimmo had a functional neck, they'd have a real logjam on their hands in LF.

898. formerly dp Posted: June 25, 2019 at 10:57 AM (#5855636)

FWIW, 2019 has all the makings for a repeat of the Zambrano/Benson deals, except that the Mets don't have any good prospects left. Brodie is desperate to make himself look good this year, and the Wilpons seem to have his back...that's a dangerous combo...

899. Adam Starblind Posted: June 25, 2019 at 01:58 PM (#5855706)

Yeah maybe a nice reminder not to get too worked up over dealing non-elite prospects

I think that trade looked worse at the time than it was because it was served up the same day as part of the same steaming pile of sh_it as Kazmir for Zambrano.

Still a pretty crummy trade for an average starter with an injury history. I hated to lose Huber. He had a .270/.402/.473 line at the time.

As for Kazmir/Zambrano, the kick in the head there was not only the long-term stupidity of trading 6 years of an elite prospect for crap--Kazmir was a better pitcher than Zambrano *already*.

900. billyshears Posted: June 25, 2019 at 02:41 PM (#5855728)

Don't forget Justin Huber and Matt Peterson for Kris Benson (had a couple of more moving pieces, but that was the net result).

One of those moving pieces was Jose Bautista. Ironically, Bautista was the best player the Mets traded away that day.

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