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Friday, July 27, 2018

The Phillies tied a homer record that hasn’t been seen in 15 years

After years of bad baseball and general futility, the Philadelphia Phillies are on the rise. They have the youngest team in the majors, excellent starting pitching, and a lineup full of power threats. On Thursday night in Cincinnati, the Phillies delivered on those power threats with a historic outburst of home runs that gave the Phillies the win, and their biggest National League East lead of the season.

The hot and humid Cincinnati weather was perfect for hitting home runs. Rhys Hoskins got it started in the first with a two-out solo shot, and was followed by Carlos Santana hitting the only multi-run homer of the night, a two-run jack to right field. Nick Williams hit his first homer of the night in the third inning, and Maikel Franco hit his first in the fifth inning. Then everyone but Santana did it all again. Hoskins hit his second dinger of the night in the sixth inning, Franco got his second in the seventh inning, and Williams put a button on it with his homer in the ninth.

It’s a rare thing for three players to hit two homers each in the same game. So rare that it hasn’t been done in 15 years, since the Boston Red Sox did it in 2003.

QLE Posted: July 27, 2018 at 08:18 PM | 17 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
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   1. AndrewJ Posted: July 28, 2018 at 07:32 AM (#5717285)
Phillies just tied the franchise record for most home runs in a game with 7, last done on Sept. 8, 1998 vs. Mets.

I was at the Vet that night. Plenty of fans brought portable TVs and in the middle of the game people around me spontaneously screamed, "He did it!" Between innings the Jumbotron then replayed McGwire's 62nd homer to a standing ovation.
   2. BDC Posted: July 28, 2018 at 09:23 AM (#5717298)
This leads to some interesting trivia items that I didn't see addressed in TFA.

1) What's the team record for home runs in a game? It came in a notable outlier year for home runs, in a DH league, and the DH that day (who hit just one home run) was Fred McGriff. Can you name the team, their HR total, and the year?

2) Having three players record 2-HR games has been done several times. But having one guy get three home runs while two teammates get two apiece is rarer. That has been done only four times, and surprisingly with HR rates so high of late, not very recently. I'll list the teams that have done it. Can you identify the HR hitters?

Teams with one player hitting three HR while two teammates hit two:
1947 Pirates
1950 Red Sox
1956 Reds
the DH-league team from (1)

3) What was the only team to get two 3-HR games from teammates in the same game? It was done in this century. The teammates, though All-Stars, were not really great players, though both barely cleared 300 HR for their careers.

Apologies in advance if I am not around much this morning to comment on possible answers. Just thought it would be a fun item to think about.
   3. KB JBAR (trhn) Posted: July 28, 2018 at 09:36 AM (#5717299)
3. For some reason I am certain it’s the Brewers. Based on your hints I’ll say Richie season and Jeremy burnitz.
   4. ERROR---Jolly Old St. Nick Posted: July 28, 2018 at 09:55 AM (#5717302)
2) Having three players record 2-HR games has been done several times. But having one guy get three home runs while two teammates get two apiece is rarer. That has been done only four times, and surprisingly with HR rates so high of late, not very recently. I'll list the teams that have done it. Can you identify the HR hitters?

Teams with one player hitting three HR while two teammates hit two:
1947 Pirates
1950 Red Sox
1956 Reds
the DH-league team from (1)


Totally guessing
1947 Pirates: Kiner, Greenberg, Wally Westlake
1950 Red Sox: Dropo, Williams, Stephens
1956 Reds: Post, Robinson, Kluszewski

No idea about those other two questions, other than that the record for home runs by a team in a game would probably be 9.
   5. McCoy Posted: July 28, 2018 at 10:11 AM (#5717307)
Devil rays
   6. Edmundo got dem ol' Kozma blues again mama Posted: July 28, 2018 at 10:33 AM (#5717311)
In that Phils 7 HR game in 1998, there were three double HR hitters.

Rico Brogna
Bobby Estalella
Kevin Sefcik

Moiderer's Row if I've ever seen one.
   7. Pasta-diving Jeter (jmac66) Posted: July 28, 2018 at 10:36 AM (#5717312)
1) What's the team record for home runs in a game? It came in a notable outlier year for home runs, in a DH league, and the DH that day (who hit just one home run) was Fred McGriff. Can you name the team, their HR total, and the year?

10 by the Jays in 1987--got a lot of ink at the time
   8. Howie Menckel Posted: July 28, 2018 at 10:41 AM (#5717314)
I was at a 1990s Cubs-Cardinals game at Wrigley Field when the Cards tied their club record of 7 HR.

6 of the 7 were caught by Cardinals fans, who were plentiful across the bleachers that day.

all 6 were - let's call it 'persuaded' - to toss their prizes back, per Wrigley tradition. one holdout lasted nearly a full inning before capitulating.
   9. BDC Posted: July 28, 2018 at 11:28 AM (#5717320)
OK, catching up on the trivia. Yes, the record for team HR is a game is 10, by the 1987 Toronto Blue Jays. McGriff hit one. Can you name the guy who hit three, and the two who hit two?

The 2001 Milwaukee Brewers had the game where Sexson and Burnitz both hit three HR. K-BAR is correct!

Andy's guesses on the earlier 3/2/2 games are largely correct, too:
* The 1947 Pirates had a game featuring three by Kiner and two by Greenberg. The third was not Wally Westlake (idle that day), but an infielder much better known for his glove, though he had what they used to call "odd home-run power," would hit eight or nine HR a year.
* The 1950 Red Sox had a game with two HR apiece from Dropo and Williams, but the guy who hit three in the game was not Vern Stephens (who had to settle for a double and a triple). Al Zarilla hit four doubles in the game, so it wasn't him, either :) It's a famous player, though. Incidentally, that game (8 June 1950 against the Browns) is still the record for team total bases (60). The Sox won 29-4.
* The 1956 Reds had a game where Robinson and Kluszewski hit two apiece. The 3-HR guy was not Wally Post (though he hit one home run that day). It was a fellow in his late 30s who was playing just his second ML season.


   10. Howie Menckel Posted: July 28, 2018 at 11:41 AM (#5717324)
the 1956 guy for the Redlegs (it was the 1950s and anti-communist, so they adapted for a few years) shares a name with a famous player who died in a plane crash.
   11. BDC Posted: July 28, 2018 at 11:43 AM (#5717325)
shares a name with a famous player who died in a plane crash


Cory Hubbs? Ken Lidle?

No wait, I know the answer. :) Good clue.
   12. ERROR---Jolly Old St. Nick Posted: July 28, 2018 at 12:15 PM (#5717333)
Andy's guesses on the earlier 3/2/2 games are largely correct, too:
* The 1947 Pirates had a game featuring three by Kiner and two by Greenberg. The third was not Wally Westlake (idle that day), but an infielder much better known for his glove, though he had what they used to call "odd home-run power," would hit eight or nine HR a year.
* The 1950 Red Sox had a game with two HR apiece from Dropo and Williams, but the guy who hit three in the game was not Vern Stephens (who had to settle for a double and a triple). Al Zarilla hit four doubles in the game, so it wasn't him, either :) It's a famous player, though. Incidentally, that game (8 June 1950 against the Browns) is still the record for team total bases (60). The Sox won 29-4.
* The 1956 Reds had a game where Robinson and Kluszewski hit two apiece. The 3-HR guy was not Wally Post (though he hit one home run that day). It was a fellow in his late 30s who was playing just his second ML season.


Okay, now I had to partially cheat by looking at the rosters and revising my last answers:

1947 Pirates: If it's not Billy Cox, I'd have absolutely no idea.

1950 Red Sox: If it's a famous player, then I'd go with Bobby Doerr, although Dom Dimaggio would be another possibility.

1956 Redlegs (Howie is correct about the name): By the age you've given I'd have to guess Bob Thurman.

EDIT: But maybe not, since I've never heard of a Thurman who died in a plane crash.

EDIT 2: Okay, now I get it. I was thinking of last names only.
   13. BDC Posted: July 28, 2018 at 01:07 PM (#5717346)
Cox, Doerr, and Thurman are all correct, Andy.
   14. Sunday silence Posted: July 28, 2018 at 04:31 PM (#5717440)
Bob Thurman is another amazing guy Ive never heard of. He must have been playing in some Ngl team before that but he doesnt show up in the records until age 29 with the Homestead Grays. He was a Yankee prospect in his early 30s and did real well in triple A. OPSing 850 for the 1949 Newark Bears which were then associated with NYY. He stayed in MLb until age 42 actually collecting a hit at that age. Still playing in the Sally league at age 44 where he hit 4 HRs in 88 AB.

Not sure if it was Elston Howard who broke the color barrier for NYY (he shows up in 1955) but one would think this guy might have had a chance. they had him for two seasons in 1949 and 1951...
   15. Howie Menckel Posted: July 28, 2018 at 06:10 PM (#5717487)
yes on Howard and Yankees color barrier

such a proud heritage for the Yankees and Red Sox, the last two MLB teams to integrate
   16. Misirlou doesn't live in the restaurant Posted: July 28, 2018 at 07:17 PM (#5717502)
Bob Thurman is another amazing guy Ive never heard of. He must have been playing in some Ngl team before that but he doesnt show up in the records until age 29 with the Homestead Grays


That was in 1946. Before that there was the little matter of the police action in Europe, North Africa, Asia, and the Pacific. According to his bio on Wiki, he kicked around semi pro teams before the war, fought in the pacific, and was signed by Homestead after.
   17. McCoy Posted: July 28, 2018 at 07:23 PM (#5717506)
I had taken a week off and traveled back to Chicago from Philadelphia the week Mark McGwire broke the record. Had tickets to the cubs-reds game and was going to take my dad to the game. Unfortunately I left the tickets in philly and my GF’s mom had to break into my apartment to get the tickets and overnight them to me. Went to the game and it was the game Sammy tied hack’s now only team homer record as Mark had hit two homers the night before to set the NL record. At the time Sammy and mark were neck and neck and Sammy might have even had the lead for a day or two but then Mark pulled away.

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