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The Possibly-Temporary Postseason Day Two Game Chatter

Since the Game Chatter does NOT have today’s games up yet, I figured I’d submit a catch-all discussion thread which, if I’m lucky, someone will sticky until Game Chatter shows up.

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1. KyleJRM Posted: October 02, 2008 at 07:07 PM (#2964793)

I hope the Cubs get blown out early in Game 2. I just want to be put out of my misery quickly and amusingly. Wrigley will get absolutely ugly on Zambrano if lays an egg, and there's every indication that he will given his last two months.

Cubs now 9-20 in playoff games since 1984. On a 7-game playoff losing streak by a combined score of 44-15. Lost the last four games by a combined 22-7 margin despite being considered heavy statistical favorites in both. Unbelievable.

Now that I got that pessimism out of the way, the Cubs have to hope they get lucky and use a good pitcher (Zambrano) to beat a better one (Billingsley, who is actually better than Lowe). If they somehow manage that, it's a three-game series where they send out the better pitcher all three times. Especially Harden/Kuroda.

2. VoodooR Posted: October 02, 2008 at 07:08 PM (#2964798)

Moses, issue this guy a citation. That's some serious pessimism. BOO!

PS Zambrano is a better pitcher than Billingsley.

3. Gamingboy Posted: October 02, 2008 at 07:11 PM (#2964804)

Rays are winning 1-0 on the bat of Evan Longoria.

4. Dan Posted: October 02, 2008 at 07:12 PM (#2964806)

Is Pena hurt??

5. Infinite Yost (Voxter)

Posted: October 02, 2008 at 07:12 PM (#2964807)

Pena out for Aybar after two innings. TBS has no idea why.

6. Tulo's Fishy Mullet (mrams) Posted: October 02, 2008 at 07:13 PM (#2964808)

How many seats has TB tarped off. Stone/Farmer said it holds 36,000 now, with the catwalk seats tarped off.

7. Infinite Yost (Voxter)

Posted: October 02, 2008 at 07:13 PM (#2964810)

This game is really indicating to me how little I've seen of the White Sox lately. Vazquez and Ramirez both look completely different to how I thought I remembered them.

8. SouthSideRyan Posted: October 02, 2008 at 07:14 PM (#2964813)

I didn't get a chance to hammer you for this elsewhere Kyle(at least not recently), but come on who cares what the Cubs did in the playoffs in years past. Will Clark's ungodliness and Steve Garvey's Aryanism has nothing to do with yesterday.

I still say we don't lose the series unless we get swept.

9. Tulo's Fishy Mullet (mrams) Posted: October 02, 2008 at 07:15 PM (#2964815)

interesting, I just had very similar thoughts about Vazquez. He seems to have had 3 separate careers so far.

10. Infinite Yost (Voxter)

Posted: October 02, 2008 at 07:16 PM (#2964817)

I've always found the whole Trop situation somewhat funny. They built this ballpark with the idea of attracting an MLB team back in the early 90s, swung and missed, and by the time the Rays finally showed up in the late 90s the thing was already out-dated. I've never been inside it, but on television, this ballpark reeks.

11. Gamingboy Posted: October 02, 2008 at 07:18 PM (#2964820)

3-1 White Sox by Wise.

12. Greg Maddux School of Reflexive Profanity Posted: October 02, 2008 at 07:18 PM (#2964821)

Hang your head in shame, Shields.

13. Dan Posted: October 02, 2008 at 07:18 PM (#2964822)

DeWayne Wise? Really?

That's gotta hurt.

14. SouthSideRyan Posted: October 02, 2008 at 07:18 PM (#2964823)

DeWayne Wise should be selling Amway right now, this is mind-blowing.

15. Infinite Yost (Voxter)

Posted: October 02, 2008 at 07:18 PM (#2964824)

This is what I get for talking #### about Dwayne Wise all morning.

16. retro-shiite Posted: October 02, 2008 at 07:18 PM (#2964825)

My bro in law and I are going tonight. I'm putting my streak of never having personally seen a Cub postseason win on the line against his streak of never having personally witnessed a Cub loss. Immovable object, meet irresistible force. I'm betting on my bad mojo over his good, as I've had 27 years of Cub fandom to work on it, but who knows.

17. retro-shiite Posted: October 02, 2008 at 07:18 PM (#2964826)

Wise. Heh.

18. Infinite Yost (Voxter)

Posted: October 02, 2008 at 07:19 PM (#2964828)

Why is Upton playing that shallow with no one on and Jermaine Dye up?

19. Repoz

Posted: October 02, 2008 at 07:20 PM (#2964829)

EVERY TEAM THAT LOSES A GAME IN THE PLAYOFFS IS TIGHT!

(shuts Francesspool off)

20. Dan Posted: October 02, 2008 at 07:22 PM (#2964832)

Upton always plays that shallow.

21. Infinite Yost (Voxter)

Posted: October 02, 2008 at 07:24 PM (#2964837)

I realize there are advantages to playing shallow if you can cover the ground, but there were miles between Upton and the fence on that play. I'm not rocking the tivo at the moment, but that looked like a ball that might have been caught if he had been playing a reasonable depth for a power hitter.

22. KyleJRM Posted: October 02, 2008 at 07:26 PM (#2964840)

"PS Zambrano is a better pitcher than Billingsley."

Prove it.

"I didn't get a chance to hammer you for this elsewhere Kyle(at least not recently), but come on who cares what the Cubs did in the playoffs in years past. Will Clark's ungodliness and Steve Garvey's Aryanism has nothing to do with yesterday."

I've asked this a hundred places and never gotten an answer. At what degree of underperformance in the playoffs and at what sample size does there begin to be reason to suspect whatever common threads there are in the organization is causing some sort of effect?

The Cubs aren't just getting beat, they are getting blown out against equal or inferior competition.

23. Gamingboy Posted: October 02, 2008 at 07:26 PM (#2964842)

I love those cowbells. Far more in line with Baseball's 'pastoral' roots then those industrial made thunderstick.

24. VoodooR Posted: October 02, 2008 at 07:29 PM (#2964844)

At what degree of underperformance in the playoffs and at what sample size does there begin to be reason to suspect whatever common threads there are in the organization is causing some sort of effect?

The Cubs aren't just getting beat, they are getting blown out against equal or inferior competition.

The only Cubs playoff game that they have lost to a team clearly inferior (since 1984) was yesterday. Last year's Cubs team stunk, relatively; just because they were a chic pick doesn't mean they were expected to win.

Prove it.

Pass.

25. Gamingboy Posted: October 02, 2008 at 07:30 PM (#2964845)

Have they said yet why Aybar is in now?

26. Infinite Yost (Voxter)

Posted: October 02, 2008 at 07:30 PM (#2964846)

I've had the sound off. Did they mention what happened to Pena yet?

27. Infinite Yost (Voxter)

Posted: October 02, 2008 at 07:31 PM (#2964847)

Wow. Nice throw, sweet slide.

28. Gamingboy Posted: October 02, 2008 at 07:31 PM (#2964848)

Tie Game.

29. KyleJRM Posted: October 02, 2008 at 07:31 PM (#2964849)

"The only Cubs playoff game that they have lost to a team clearly inferior to them since 1984 was yesterday. Last year's Cubs team stunk, relatively, just because they were a chic pick doesn't mean they were expected to win."

How much of a run differential difference do you need before you are clearly superior?

"Pass."

Okay, pick a reasonable pitching stat and I'll take the time to look it up.

30. cardsfanboy

Posted: October 02, 2008 at 07:31 PM (#2964850)

great throw, I didn't think it would be close at all.

31. Greg Maddux School of Reflexive Profanity Posted: October 02, 2008 at 07:32 PM (#2964851)

Andruw Jones has done it again!

32. Dan Posted: October 02, 2008 at 07:32 PM (#2964852)

And Longoria is a legend already.

33. Gamingboy Posted: October 02, 2008 at 07:32 PM (#2964853)

LONGORIA!!!!! AGAIN!

34. Infinite Yost (Voxter)

Posted: October 02, 2008 at 07:32 PM (#2964855)

My God, that was a beach ball. I've never seen a hanginger curveball in my life.

35. Stately, Plump Buck Mulligan Posted: October 02, 2008 at 07:33 PM (#2964857)

I can see why statheads like Javy Vazquez -- in the playoffs, he's choketastic!

36. J. Michael Neal Posted: October 02, 2008 at 07:33 PM (#2964858)

Can I get post-season stats to count for my fantasy team?

37. Rafael Bellylard: Built like a Molina Posted: October 02, 2008 at 07:33 PM (#2964859)

That looked like a slowpitch softball swing.

38. Walks Clog Up the Bases Posted: October 02, 2008 at 07:33 PM (#2964860)

I knew Javy would let them back in.

39. SouthSideRyan Posted: October 02, 2008 at 07:34 PM (#2964861)

I've asked this a hundred places and never gotten an answer. At what degree of underperformance in the playoffs and at what sample size does there begin to be reason to suspect whatever common threads there are in the organization is causing some sort of effect?

It's not like Jim Hendry has been the GM for the last 25 years. If you want to make that argument with regards to Schuerholz in the 90s, go ahead. I'm not buying that there's something in the hiring process of the plethora of GMs and CEOs the Cubs have gone through in my time on earth.

40. Tulo's Fishy Mullet (mrams) Posted: October 02, 2008 at 07:34 PM (#2964862)

A Fog Horn at a baseball game for a HR?

41. Boots Day Posted: October 02, 2008 at 07:36 PM (#2964863)

I can see why statheads like Javy Vazquez -- in the playoffs, he's choketastic!

It's because his #### don't work in the playoffs.

42. Dan Posted: October 02, 2008 at 07:36 PM (#2964864)

A Fog Horn at a baseball game for a HR?

They do that in TB and also in Toronto.

43. Gamingboy Posted: October 02, 2008 at 07:38 PM (#2964866)

The Trop is a better place than the rep it gets. Easily the best Dome of all time. Which isn't saying much, but is still far better then the ######## many people say it is.

44. KyleJRM Posted: October 02, 2008 at 07:38 PM (#2964868)

"It's not like Jim Hendry has been the GM for the last 25 years. If you want to make that argument with regards to Schuerholz in the 90s, go ahead. I'm not buying that there's something in the hiring process of the plethora of GMs and CEOs the Cubs have gone through in my time on earth."

The same company hired all them.

But what about ballpark? Scheduling? Fans? Weather patterns?

I'm not arguing for an effect. I'm asking a simple question that nobody ever wants to answer: How much sample size would be needed at various levels of underperformance before we'd have reason to suspect an effect? 25 games at highly negative run differential? 50? 100 with a poor record in close games? 1000?

45. VoodooR Posted: October 02, 2008 at 07:39 PM (#2964869)

Okay, pick a reasonable pitching stat and I'll take the time to look it up.

Billingsley has been a better pitcher this year according to VORP. Zambranos hitting almost makes up the difference, but not quite. I suppose it would be fair to say that Billngsley has been a better pitcher this year. It's his first full season, whereas, Zambrano has been a very good pitcher since 2003. So I don't think it is quite fair to say that Billingsley is the better pitcher, unless you are also prepared to say that Ryan Dempster is a better pitcher than, say, Roy Oswalt. He's not.

46. Gamingboy Posted: October 02, 2008 at 07:39 PM (#2964870)

Carlos Pena apparently scratched his eye. There HAS to be a story behind that.

47. Bull Pain Posted: October 02, 2008 at 07:40 PM (#2964871)

Shocking how many triples have been hit against the White Sox since a certain player came over from the NL. Wait, no it's not.

48. Rafael Bellylard: Built like a Molina Posted: October 02, 2008 at 07:41 PM (#2964874)

I didn't care that much for watching games at the Trop, but have never seen a game at a differnt dome. And, it is better than most games I saw at Candlestick (which also used a foghorn).

49. KyleJRM Posted: October 02, 2008 at 07:41 PM (#2964875)

"So I don't think it is quite fair to say that Billingsley is the better pitcher, unless you are also prepared to say that Ryan Dempster is a better pitcher than, say, Roy Oswalt. He's not."

Very bad analogy. Dempster had a lot of non-dominant years before this year.

And Billingsley had a better ERA+ than Zambrano last season too.

50. Greg Maddux School of Reflexive Profanity Posted: October 02, 2008 at 07:42 PM (#2964876)

That'll happen when you're 38 and have hamstrings made of scar tissue.

51. Tulo's Fishy Mullet (mrams) Posted: October 02, 2008 at 07:43 PM (#2964878)

I new the Stick used a fog horn, which makes some sense, but Tampa seems a bit odd. Toronto probably thought, hey Leafs fans love it, let's do it.

52. nick swisher hygiene Posted: October 02, 2008 at 07:44 PM (#2964879)

Vasquez is such a dog....let's see if you can get that postseason era over 10, Javy.....

53. Jim Wisinski

Posted: October 02, 2008 at 07:44 PM (#2964881)

I new the Stick used a fog horn, which makes some sense, but Tampa seems a bit odd. Toronto probably thought, hey Leafs fans love it, let's do it.

Hockey is actually pretty big here.

54. Infinite Yost (Voxter)

Posted: October 02, 2008 at 07:46 PM (#2964883)

Carlos Pena apparently scratched his eye.

Ow.

I've been to the Rogers Centre and the King Dome, as well as SafeCo with the roof closed. (Actually, it closed between innings at one point. I felt like they should have been playing "Also Sprach Zarathustra".) The King Dome was easily the worst. But I'd still rather watch a game in the stinging rain at Phone Company Park in SF than indoors in Toronto. Baseball is just weird inside. Everything echoes, and it smells like a combination locker-room and sporting goods store.

55. VoodooR Posted: October 02, 2008 at 07:47 PM (#2964887)

Look, Kyle, they are both very good pitchers. We're splitting hairs. Zambrano is my favorite player and I'm going to defend him regardless.

It's a pointless debate, anyway, because if one of them is *slightly* better than the other one, it isn't going to make a damn bit of difference in TODAY's game, now is it? Any advantage for either pitcher would be negligible in a one game setting.

56. Vaux, A.B.D. Posted: October 02, 2008 at 07:48 PM (#2964890)

I almost wasn't even going to bother watching this game, because Vazquez was pitching. He hurts to watch.

57. KyleJRM Posted: October 02, 2008 at 07:52 PM (#2964893)

"It's a pointless debate, anyway, because if one of them is *slightly* better than the other one, it isn't going to make a damn bit of difference in TODAY's game, now is it? Any advantage for either pitcher would be negligible in a one game setting."

I don't consider a half-run per game difference to be negligible. Zambrano has been a 3.90 ERA pitcher for two straight seasons now, he's proven that's who he is right now.

Agreed, though, that the odds are against that half-run both showing up and being the difference.

58. Greg Maddux School of Reflexive Profanity Posted: October 02, 2008 at 07:53 PM (#2964895)

Rosters. Bless the Rays and their six-man bullpen.

Tampa Bay
James Shields, Scott Kazmir, Matt Garza, Andy Sonnanstine
Dan Wheeler, Grant Balfour, J.P. Howell, Chad Bradford, Trever Miller, David Price

Dioner Navarro, Michel Hernandez
Carlos Pena, Willy Aybar, Cliff Floyd
Akinori Iwamura, Evan Longoria, Jason Bartlett, Ben Zobrist
Carl Crawford, B.J. Upton, Gabe Gross, Eric Hinske, Rocco Baldelli, Fernando Perez

Chicago
Javier Vazquez, Mark Buehrle, John Danks, Gavin Floyd
Bobby Jenks, Scott Linebrink, Octavio Dotel, Matt Thornton, D.J. Carrasco, Clayton Richard, Adam Russell

A.J. Pierzynski, Toby Hall
Paul Konerko, Jim Thome, Nick Swisher
Alexei Ramirez, Juan Uribe, Orlando Cabrera, Josh Fields
Dewayne Wise, Ken Griffey, Jermaine Dye, Brian Anderson, Jerry Owens

59. Gamingboy Posted: October 02, 2008 at 07:58 PM (#2964897)

I'd put my list of Ballparks been to by quality in THIS order (to put Tropicana into perspective):

1. PETCO Park
2. PNC
3. Camden Yards
4. Citizen's Bank
5. Jacobs/Progressive
6. Yankee Stadium
7. Turner Field
8. Angels Stadium (post-renovation)
9. Dodger Stadium
10. Tropicana Field
11. Skydome/Rogers Centre (only have been there with roof closed)
12. Shea Stadium

60. Jim Wisinski

Posted: October 02, 2008 at 08:06 PM (#2964904)

I want runners on base this time when Longoria comes up.

61. Tulo's Fishy Mullet (mrams) Posted: October 02, 2008 at 08:09 PM (#2964907)

Of all the domes I've been to the Kingdome was easily the worst.
others I've attended, no particular order

Carrier Dome
Minute Maid
Metrodome
Miller Park
RCA Dome
Astrodome

62. Gamingboy Posted: October 02, 2008 at 08:10 PM (#2964909)

If Longoria hits another home run, I think he may get a statue built in his honor in Tampa Bay.

63. Jim Wisinski

Posted: October 02, 2008 at 08:14 PM (#2964919)

I wonder what the record is for shortest length of time between three-homer games.

64. Jim Wisinski

Posted: October 02, 2008 at 08:15 PM (#2964924)

RBI single.......BOOOOOO

65. Infinite Yost (Voxter)

Posted: October 02, 2008 at 08:16 PM (#2964928)

I liked both Angels Stadium (post-renovation) and Dodger Stadium considerably more than Yankee Stadium, which I was disappointed to find loud and trashy. The outside-the-gate atmosphere far out-distances any West Coast park I've been to (which, now that I think about it, is all of them), but inside it wasn't anything to write home about. My favorite park when the weather is nice is Nameless Behemoth in SF, but that's not terribly common. I like SafeCo quite a bit, and PETCO is nice.

I admit that my sample is sorely limited. I've never been to a lot of the supposedly nicer new-wave parks (PNC, Coors), or to Wrigley.

In an actually semi-relevant point, I like the Rays' mohawks.

66. Tulo's Fishy Mullet (mrams) Posted: October 02, 2008 at 08:18 PM (#2964929)

I wonder what the record is for shortest length of time between three-homer games.

I think Johnny Mize did it twice over 7 days once.

67. Infinite Yost (Voxter)

Posted: October 02, 2008 at 08:20 PM (#2964934)

I thought Harold Reynolds had been run out of television.

68. Jim Wisinski

Posted: October 02, 2008 at 08:20 PM (#2964935)

Ah....would be 15 days for Longoria if he gets it today.

69. Dan Posted: October 02, 2008 at 08:20 PM (#2964937)

Surprising to not see Baldelli hitting for Floyd here...

70. Tulo's Fishy Mullet (mrams) Posted: October 02, 2008 at 08:22 PM (#2964941)

Though didn't Doug Decinces do it over 5 days? Yes he did, Aug 3, 1982 and August 8th, 1982

71. salajander Posted: October 02, 2008 at 08:23 PM (#2964944)

Vazquez's postseason ERA up to 10.34 unless Longoria scores.

72. cardsfanboy

Posted: October 02, 2008 at 08:24 PM (#2964946)

I've asked this a hundred places and never gotten an answer. At what degree of underperformance in the playoffs and at what sample size does there begin to be reason to suspect whatever common threads there are in the organization is causing some sort of effect?

probably none, a team 5 years remove from itself, in todays game is a vastly different team, and a sample from 10 years ago has zero to do with the current team playing.

73. Infinite Yost (Voxter)

Posted: October 02, 2008 at 08:25 PM (#2964948)

I'm still pissed at Navarro for torpedoing my Scoresheet team in the first half last year. Curse you, Dioner Navarro! Your name is hard to pronounce and you started hitting too late!

74. Rafael Bellylard: Built like a Molina Posted: October 02, 2008 at 08:25 PM (#2964950)

OK, enough about the ####### catwalks.

75. The Buddy Biancalana Hit Counter Posted: October 02, 2008 at 08:27 PM (#2964954)

Frank Caliendo does a really good Tim Hutton impression.

76. Random Transaction Generator Posted: October 02, 2008 at 08:28 PM (#2964958)

Stadiums I've been to, in order of enjoyment:

1. Fenway Park (just once, but it was great)
2. Skydome/Rogers Center (dome open) (numerous times, the CN Tower looks really cool overhead)
3. Yankee Stadium (just once, not so good)
4. Skydome/Rogers Center (dome closed) (numerous times, it feels like playing in your rec room)
5. Exhibition Stadium (old Toronto park) (numerous times)
6. Tiger Stadium (just once, what a f*cking hole)

I've also been to Skydome/Rogers Center three times when they've closed the dome in the middle of the game.
It's a REALLY weird sensation to see it slowly block out the sky.

77. Infinite Yost (Voxter)

Posted: October 02, 2008 at 08:28 PM (#2964959)

Frank Caliendo does a really good Tim Hutton impression.

He also sings "Viva Viagra" really well.

78. Infinite Yost (Voxter)

Posted: October 02, 2008 at 08:30 PM (#2964963)

4. Skydome/Rogers Center (dome closed)

Yeah, both games I saw at Rogers were dome closed. It felt like watching basketball, but all the guys have had the wrong equipment issued.

79. Jim Wisinski

Posted: October 02, 2008 at 08:30 PM (#2964964)

The catwalks get way too much crap from people. What really is the difference between catwalks high above the field and having an enormous wall with a very small left field, besides the catwalks affecting the games far less? They're both part of the ballparks, it's just that since the Trop is relatively new it's not historic or anything like that so it gets bashed for an unusual feature.

80. VoodooR Posted: October 02, 2008 at 08:31 PM (#2964968)

I've been to three ballparks. Wrigley. Fenway. Bank One Ballpark.

81. vortex of dissipation Posted: October 02, 2008 at 08:33 PM (#2964971)

Pena has blurred vision. Not sure how he hurt his eye.

82. Crispix Attacks Posted: October 02, 2008 at 08:35 PM (#2964978)

This game is really indicating to me how little I've seen of the White Sox lately. Vazquez and Ramirez both look completely different to how I thought I remembered them.

I didn't remember Juan Uribe having a grey beard, either. He looks like Tony Gwynn.

83. Vaux, A.B.D. Posted: October 02, 2008 at 08:35 PM (#2964979)

But then when new parks are built with gratuitous "features", they're accepted and even liked, apparently just because they have short dimensions and no domes.

It's actually not unlike the situation in music, but that's a long story.

84. SouthSideRyan Posted: October 02, 2008 at 08:38 PM (#2964985)

Adjust your color Crispix, that's a bleach blonde beard. And he looks ridiculous.

85. Rafael Bellylard: Built like a Molina Posted: October 02, 2008 at 08:38 PM (#2964986)

I've been to a bunch, many of it only once.

In order of preference:

1. Coors Field (Surprise!)
2. Camden Yards
3. Big Phone Company Park, SF
4. Fenway Park
5. Turner Field
6. Dodger Stadium
7. The Big A (an experience marred by having Roseanne Barr and Tom Arnold necking about 6 rows in front of me).
8. Jack Murphy Stadium
9. Oakland Coliseum
10. The Trop
11. Candlestick Park
12. Arlington Stadium (the old one, on an evening where the temp never got below 100).

86. Random Transaction Generator Posted: October 02, 2008 at 08:39 PM (#2964987)

What really is the difference between catwalks high above the field and having an enormous wall with a very small left field, besides the catwalks affecting the games far less?

At least Fenway had a reason (allocated space at the time).
The Trop didn't HAVE to have low-hanging catwalks.
While I don't mind what they have in Minute Maid Park, the hump-and-pole combo in center field always gets comments from my friends/relatives as being "a stupid idea".

87. Infinite Yost (Voxter)

Posted: October 02, 2008 at 08:40 PM (#2964990)

They're talking about the Red Sox - Rays brawl now. The Rays and Sox have had an extremely and confusingly contentious relationship since back in Pedro's heyday. I still remember Gerald Williams charing the mound after Pedro plunked him with a curveball. Those two teams will fight over anything.

88. Infinite Yost (Voxter)

Posted: October 02, 2008 at 08:42 PM (#2964991)

9. Oakland Coliseum

This place is a butthole. Worst non-dome stadium I've ever been to. But it's cheap as ####, so I used to go there a lot. You get half the experience of Phone Behemoth for a tenth the price.

89. Rafael Bellylard: Built like a Molina Posted: October 02, 2008 at 08:44 PM (#2964994)

9. Oakland Coliseum

This place is a butthole. Worst non-dome stadium I've ever been to. But it's cheap as ####, so I used to go there a lot. You get half the experience of Phone Behemoth for a tenth the price.

I tend to agree, but considering a day game there when I was growing up was warmer and cheaper than Candlestick, I stand by my rating.

90. Infinite Yost (Voxter)

Posted: October 02, 2008 at 08:46 PM (#2964996)

The only game I went to at Candlestick was miserable. Wind, and that tiny, sharp rain that hurts when it hits your face. I was like eight years old. All I could think about was how Thundercats was probably on TV back at the hotel.

91. Vaux, A.B.D. Posted: October 02, 2008 at 08:47 PM (#2964998)

It was beautiful 15 years ago, but I haven't been since Mt. Davis was built. Yes, it's just a hole dug in a parking lot that they play baseball in, but the view of the mountains was great, and they were playing baseball down there. What could be better?

92. Dan Posted: October 02, 2008 at 08:51 PM (#2965001)

Guessing that's it for Shields?

93. Dan Posted: October 02, 2008 at 08:52 PM (#2965003)

Yep.

94. Hello Rusty Kuntz, Goodbye Rusty Cars Posted: October 02, 2008 at 08:52 PM (#2965004)

1. Old Comiskey (That's where I went when I was a kid, so everything seemed better.)
2. Dodger Stadium
3. LA Coliseum (For this year's exhibition, so everything was fixed up. It was probably a hole for regular baseball games.)
4. New Comiskey
5. Big A post-renovation
6. Petco
7. Where the Giants play now
8. Busch II
9. Wrigley (Looks nice on TV, but it smelled like piss and the games I went to involved the 1980's and early 1990's Cubs)
10. Coors
11. The D-Backs field
12. Big A pre-renovation
13. Jack Murphy
14. Oakland

95. Vaux, A.B.D. Posted: October 02, 2008 at 08:52 PM (#2965005)

Yeah, Harold, but there's supposed to be a rule against that.

96. Tulo's Fishy Mullet (mrams) Posted: October 02, 2008 at 08:54 PM (#2965007)

My faves from attendance:

Best: Fenway, PacBell, Coors, Wrigley
Very good: Miller, Nats, Yankee, BallparkatArlington, Tiger, Old Comiskey, Kaufmann, Camden
I liked: Minute Maid, County Stadium, Cleveland Muni. the Big A (old), new Comiskey
OK: Jack Murphy, Fulton County
not so good: Metrodome, Shea, Busch(old hot turf version),
hated: Kingdome

97. Crispix Attacks Posted: October 02, 2008 at 08:54 PM (#2965008)

My rankings:
1) Wrigley Field
2) PNC Park
3) where the Durham Bulls play
4) where the Williamsport Crosscutters play
5) Veterans Stadium
6) (tie) where the Washington Wild Things play
6) (tie) where the Mahoning Valley Scrappers play
8) Lackawanna County Stadium
20) Three Rivers Stadium

But aren't there actual games going on now?!?!? Not that I can hear or see them anywhere in this building.

98. Dan Posted: October 02, 2008 at 08:57 PM (#2965011)

What the #### is Cabrera getting pissy about?

99. Jim Wisinski

Posted: October 02, 2008 at 08:58 PM (#2965012)

Why did Orlando Cabrera suddenly become a complete idiot and ######### this year?

100. A triple short of the cycle

Posted: October 02, 2008 at 08:58 PM (#2965013)

Worst non-dome stadium I've ever been to.

The Oakland Coliseum is a perfectly fine place to watch a baseball game and is easily accessible by public transit as well.

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