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The present is theirs; the future is OMNICHATTER’s, for July 9, 2017

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Los Angeles El Hombre of Anaheim Posted: July 09, 2017 at 12:45 PM | 177 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
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   1. Los Angeles El Hombre of Anaheim Posted: July 09, 2017 at 12:51 PM (#5490067)
HOW WILL THE ANGELS LOSE TODAY?!
   2. Russlan thinks deGrom is da bomb Posted: July 09, 2017 at 01:33 PM (#5490071)
The World Series hangover lingers for the Cubs.
   3. Jeff Francoeur's OPS Posted: July 09, 2017 at 01:45 PM (#5490078)
Wow. Jon Lester. 10 runs in 2/3 of an inning. Unreal.
   4. Count Vorror Rairol Mencoon (CoB) Posted: July 09, 2017 at 01:45 PM (#5490079)
Oh joy, bad Tanaka.
   5. Walks Clog Up the Bases Posted: July 09, 2017 at 01:50 PM (#5490080)
Wow. I just checked the score on the phone and thought no way could it be correct.

So much for finishing the half at .500.
   6. Batman Posted: July 09, 2017 at 01:50 PM (#5490081)
But in binary, the Cubs are only down by two runs. Still 10 though.
   7. Spahn Insane Posted: July 09, 2017 at 01:54 PM (#5490082)
So much for getting that allowing runs in the first inning under control.

2016 was fun, huh?
   8. Walks Clog Up the Bases Posted: July 09, 2017 at 01:56 PM (#5490084)
They sure are testing the flags fly forever thing.
   9. Walks Clog Up the Bases Posted: July 09, 2017 at 01:57 PM (#5490085)
When's the last time the Cubs were down 10 before they even took their first swings?
   10. Spahn Insane Posted: July 09, 2017 at 02:03 PM (#5490088)
Been watching 35 years and I can't remember it ever happening.
   11. Rennie's Tenet Posted: July 09, 2017 at 02:06 PM (#5490090)
Pirates have Chad Kuhl on two days rest, then probably six innings from the bullpen. They probably need more than 10.
   12. Spahn Insane Posted: July 09, 2017 at 02:11 PM (#5490091)
Man, and I thought I was cynical.
   13. cardsfanboy Posted: July 09, 2017 at 02:15 PM (#5490092)
Nationals allowed 12 runs in the first inning earlier this season, so the Cubs aren't alone in their misery(of course the Nationals were playing the powerhouse Phillies)
   14. cardsfanboy Posted: July 09, 2017 at 02:19 PM (#5490093)
Heck even in the 1979 game, 23-22 game, the Cubs only allowed 7 runs in the first(15 runs by the third)

Unable to find the most runs the Cubs have allowed in the first through any of my searches though, but did see them allowing 12 to the Rockies in the 8th.


The Rockies 12 runs in the 8th inning is tied for the most runs allowed in an inning in Cubs history. The other two teams to reach that mark were the Montreal Expos (9/24/1985) and the Philadelphia Phillies (7/21/1923).
   15. cardsfanboy Posted: July 09, 2017 at 02:30 PM (#5490098)
I just wish McCarver and Mclaughlin would understand baseball a bit better, generally speaking a switch hitter does have more power from the opposite side of the plate, they are dumbfounded that Dexter Fowler has more power from the left than the right.

Every time he comes to bat they mention that he has more power from his opposite natural side...uggh... this is baseball hitting 101.

When you hold the bat, the hand at the bottom(on the knob) is the power hand, the hand above is the control hand, when you are a natural right hander and are batting left handed, your right hand is at the bottom, this means you have more power when you do make contact....I learned this in 3rd grade, how come they don't know this?

There is a reason why Fowler only has a .255 career batting average when batting left, and a .297 when batting right handed, his control hand makes contact easier...
   16. Count Vorror Rairol Mencoon (CoB) Posted: July 09, 2017 at 02:34 PM (#5490100)
That's Headley!
   17. Count Vorror Rairol Mencoon (CoB) Posted: July 09, 2017 at 02:35 PM (#5490101)
SYNDROME!
   18. ERROR---Jolly Old St. Nick Posted: July 09, 2017 at 02:35 PM (#5490102)
And Downtown Frazier!
   19. cardsfanboy Posted: July 09, 2017 at 02:49 PM (#5490107)
Dejong is batting 8th again, this is actually something that could be a legitimate criticism against Matheny. (although I'm not sure who in the lineup you would bat after him, based upon their career or reputation....I could see Molina batting 8th, but that means he'll be walked a lot more to set up potential double plays, even more than currently---Piscotty isn't having a great go right now, but he does have a track record more than 200 pa of being a pretty decent hitter)
   20. Hans Van Slooten Posted: July 09, 2017 at 02:52 PM (#5490112)
Twins are getting "Bad Kyle Gibson" today, i.e. Kyle Gibson.
   21. What did Billy Ripken have against ElRoy Face? Posted: July 09, 2017 at 02:55 PM (#5490115)
Oh, FFS, Joe, there's absolutely no excuse for making a pitching change with two outs when you're down 11-1.
   22. cardsfanboy Posted: July 09, 2017 at 03:03 PM (#5490119)
Pham makes it 3-0 with a two run homer in the third....
Jay Bruce just made a very good catch on a foul ball from Fowler that surprised Fowler.
   23. Misirlou doesn't live in the restaurant Posted: July 09, 2017 at 03:05 PM (#5490120)
Jon Lester with a -16 game score. Assuming I did the search correctly, that's the lowest for a Cub pitcher ever. there have been only 4 other negative game scores going back as far as the data allows, and the previous worst was -5 by Joe Coleman in 1976.
   24. Hans Van Slooten Posted: July 09, 2017 at 03:06 PM (#5490121)
Orioles are getting "Bad Ubaldo Jimenez" today, i.e. Ubaldo Jimenez.
   25. Walks Clog Up the Bases Posted: July 09, 2017 at 03:07 PM (#5490123)
Looked safe but it doesn't really matter
   26. perros Posted: July 09, 2017 at 03:10 PM (#5490124)
.I learned this in 3rd grade,

Dunno, I remember getting a lot of bad info in third grade. *)

Which is to say I'm not sure it's that simple. Hank Aaron started out batting cross-handed.
   27. What did Billy Ripken have against ElRoy Face? Posted: July 09, 2017 at 03:12 PM (#5490125)
Which position player would pitch for the Cubs now that Montero is gone?
   28. cardsfanboy Posted: July 09, 2017 at 03:15 PM (#5490127)
Which is to say I'm not sure it's that simple. Hank Aaron started out batting cross-handed.


Agree, but the basics still remain, of course there are exceptions, some of which is because a guy grows up thinking he is right handed and is in actuality left handed, which makes it easier to switch hit, but that is often going to affect the control aspect.

Generally speaking a person's dominant arm is going to be slightly stronger than their non-dominant arm, even among athletes who work out to maintain strength of both. The stronger arm at the bottom of the bat is going to create more leverage, generating more power, it's the ability to hit the ball squarely frequently enough that is going to determine whether it's worth becoming a switch hitter, ...

Grabbing the most famous switch hitter of all time, and Mantle averaged 1 homerun every 14.1 at bats when batting left handed, one per 17 whenn batting right handed, even though he had a .325 average right handed and a .281 average left handed. (and without doing the math, I'm sure his isolated power will show similar numbers and even a larger discrepancy when you look at balls in play--including homeruns)
   29. Misirlou doesn't live in the restaurant Posted: July 09, 2017 at 03:18 PM (#5490128)
I think John Jay pitched this year.

Lester's -16 games score is tied for the worst this millennium. Colby Lewis had a -16 in 2014. The next one was -21 in 1998. Only 16 games of -16 or worse going back to 1913. One HOFer on the list, a guy famous for completing every game he started and leading the league in ERA at age 41.
   30. cardsfanboy Posted: July 09, 2017 at 03:19 PM (#5490129)
Which position player would pitch for the Cubs now that Montero is gone?


Jon Jay should be rested.
   31. cardsfanboy Posted: July 09, 2017 at 03:20 PM (#5490130)
Paul Dejong with a homerun to make it 4-0...he's currently 9 for 10 in this series with 3 homeruns, 4 doubles.
   32. cardsfanboy Posted: July 09, 2017 at 03:54 PM (#5490137)
McCarver is so clueless at times.. he's talking about Keith Hernandez and how great he was defensively, and he knows because he was doing Mets broadcasts, and then back handedly says "Cardinal fans might know about this, since he played here a bit before the trade."....

He's acting like Keith Hernandez had a longer career in New York than he did in St Louis. (he also listed Keith Hernandez as having 6 gold gloves.... "he should have had more!"----umm Tim, he did have more, he had 11. ---he had 6 with the Mets, 5 with the Cardinals..)
   33. Edmundo got dem ol' Kozma blues again mama Posted: July 09, 2017 at 04:14 PM (#5490142)
Nationals allowed 12 runs in the first inning earlier this season, so the Cubs aren't alone in their misery(of course the Nationals were playing the powerhouse Phillies)


Who have 6, count 'em, 6 home runs today. (Granted against the lowly Padres, but still).

   34. cardsfanboy Posted: July 09, 2017 at 04:18 PM (#5490143)
Pham left the game with a hip issue, and Fowler is currently not 100%... for a team with a lot of quality outfielders, we don't seem to have enough to fill a healthy lineup in a 6-0 game in the 7th inning. (of course we sent Jose Martinez down this week, so our roster only has four outfielders)
   35. cardsfanboy Posted: July 09, 2017 at 04:23 PM (#5490144)
Lynn pulled for the 8th inning, 93 pitches, 3 hits allowed, 0 runs, 1 walk.... With the all star break coming up, it's hard to argue to keep him in there for just another inning, might as well let the relievers get some playing time before 4 off days, but still, I'm not generally a fan of pulling a guy pitching as well as he has so far today.
   36. mathesond Posted: July 09, 2017 at 04:30 PM (#5490146)
Aaaand it looks like the Jays will hold the Astros to under 20 runs today.
   37. Lance Reddick! Lance him! Posted: July 09, 2017 at 04:45 PM (#5490152)
Freeland attempting to pull a Nomo at Coors Field.
   38. Perry Posted: July 09, 2017 at 04:51 PM (#5490154)
Holy ####, Charlie Blackmon just hit one high off the back wall behind the visitors' bullpen at Coors. I don't remember ever seeing one hit there. 477 feet off a knee-high pitch.
   39. perros Posted: July 09, 2017 at 04:55 PM (#5490158)
I'm right-handed, but left-side dominant. Can't hit a lick.
   40. Los Angeles El Hombre of Anaheim Posted: July 09, 2017 at 05:03 PM (#5490162)
Logan Forsythe singles home another run. 2-0 Dodgers. With Kershaw on the mound, that seems like plenty.
   41. Los Angeles El Hombre of Anaheim Posted: July 09, 2017 at 05:08 PM (#5490164)
Justin Turner's 2nd homer of the day makes it 4-0 Dodgers. Looks like they're going to go 26-4 going into the ASB.
   42. Lance Reddick! Lance him! Posted: July 09, 2017 at 05:09 PM (#5490165)
The bottom of the sixth in Colorado simply will not end.
   43. Los Angeles El Hombre of Anaheim Posted: July 09, 2017 at 05:17 PM (#5490170)
Hosmer homers off Kershaw, 4-2 Dodgers. 18th homer allowed by Kershaw this season, 6th homer by a lefty. It's already a career high number he's allowed.
   44. Lance Reddick! Lance him! Posted: July 09, 2017 at 05:20 PM (#5490171)
I've long since grown tired of the "fly ball -> outfielder drifts...and drifts -> home run" sequence.
   45. Perry Posted: July 09, 2017 at 05:41 PM (#5490173)
Freeland through 7, but at 99 pitches on a 95-degree day (albeit a dry 95 -- 11% humidity).
   46. Perry Posted: July 09, 2017 at 05:42 PM (#5490174)
Freeland's been getting plenty of rest between innings though as the Rox keep racking up runs.
   47. Los Angeles El Hombre of Anaheim Posted: July 09, 2017 at 05:43 PM (#5490175)
Lorenzo Cain just fouled a ball off himself, and he's not getting up. Uh oh.
   48. Lance Reddick! Lance him! Posted: July 09, 2017 at 05:44 PM (#5490176)
The top of the sixth ended about an hour ago. There are currently no outs in the bottom of the seventh.
   49. AT-AT at bat@AT&T Posted: July 09, 2017 at 05:53 PM (#5490178)
I was trying to come up with a way to jinx the no-hitter... but couldn't.
Good luck, Verlander !
   50. Lance Reddick! Lance him! Posted: July 09, 2017 at 05:57 PM (#5490181)
Parra is owed dinner.
   51. Perry Posted: July 09, 2017 at 05:57 PM (#5490182)
Diving catch by Parra saves the no-no for now. Five outs to go.
   52. Bote Man is no David Posted: July 09, 2017 at 06:01 PM (#5490184)
Cueto walks Ozuna to load the bases. No problem for the Giants reliever coming on, he only has to get 3 outs with the bases loaded and Justin Bour coming up. What could possibly go wrong???

(Here I'm predicting a grand salami.)
   53. Perry Posted: July 09, 2017 at 06:03 PM (#5490185)
Through 8. 116 pitches.
   54. Perry Posted: July 09, 2017 at 06:05 PM (#5490187)
Freeland's mom and girlfriend are in the stands -- he's a hometown boy.
   55. Dag Nabbit at ExactlyAsOld.com Posted: July 09, 2017 at 06:06 PM (#5490188)
Jon Lester with a -16 game score. Assuming I did the search correctly, that's the lowest for a Cub pitcher ever. there have been only 4 other negative game scores going back as far as the data allows, and the previous worst was -5 by Joe Coleman in 1976.

?

His Game Score is 9. Not sure how you got -16.

Start at 50.

Add one point for every out. Two outs, so 52.

Add a point for every K. None. Still 52.

Subtract a point for every walk. Three. Down to 49.

Minus two for every hit allowed. Six hits. Minus 12. Down to 37.

Minus four for every earned run. Four. That's minus 16. Down to 21.

Minus two for every unearned run. Six. That's minus 12. Down to 9. That's it.

I mean, even if you think all 10 runs were unearned, that's still just -3, not -16.

Regardless, really really bad start.
   56. Dag Nabbit at ExactlyAsOld.com Posted: July 09, 2017 at 06:08 PM (#5490189)
In response to my own Post #55....

Apparently, Tom Tango created a new version of Game Score. By that math, Lester has a -16.
   57. Lance Reddick! Lance him! Posted: July 09, 2017 at 06:09 PM (#5490190)
(Here I'm predicting a grand salami.)

Don't keep us in suspense about the goings-on in this battle of also-rans.
   58. Misirlou doesn't live in the restaurant Posted: July 09, 2017 at 06:13 PM (#5490191)
Apparently, Tom Tango created a new version of Game Score. By that math, Lester has a -16.


MLB game day reported it as -16. If the metric has changed, then the BBREF numbers from the past may not be accurate.
   59. Bote Man is no David Posted: July 09, 2017 at 06:15 PM (#5490192)
Don't keep us in suspense about the goings-on in this battle of also-rans.

"Justin Bour singles on a line drive to left fielder Gorkys Hernandez. Giancarlo Stanton scores. Christian Yelich scores. Marcell Ozuna to 2nd."

You laugh while you can, but the second half might hold some surprising surprises for baseball fans.
   60. Joyful Calculus Instructor Posted: July 09, 2017 at 06:16 PM (#5490193)
I hope Kershaw goes for the CG. Jansen has been a bit overworked recently.
   61. Bote Man is no David Posted: July 09, 2017 at 06:19 PM (#5490195)
OK, who jinxed it?!?!
   62. ERROR---Jolly Old St. Nick Posted: July 09, 2017 at 06:20 PM (#5490196)
At least it was a former Yankee who fouled the nest.
   63. AT-AT at bat@AT&T Posted: July 09, 2017 at 06:21 PM (#5490197)
Melky ? MELKY ? We don't need no stinkin' Melky !
   64. Nero Wolfe, Indeed Posted: July 09, 2017 at 06:22 PM (#5490198)
Every pitch that inning was shoulders or higher. He was gassed. Hell of a game at Coors.
   65. Dag Nabbit at ExactlyAsOld.com Posted: July 09, 2017 at 06:22 PM (#5490199)
MLB game day reported it as -16. If the metric has changed, then the BBREF numbers from the past may not be accurate.

B-ref uses the old version. So comparisons don't really work.

Tango's is more a DIPS-friendly version. And gets away from the point of James's original stat -which was to combine the stats from the traditional pitching line into one number. (Tango gets away from it by ignoring the difference between UER & ER, and more importantly by making homers a big factor).
   66. Perry Posted: July 09, 2017 at 06:22 PM (#5490200)
Rats. Cabrera single with one out in the 9th. Clean hit.
   67. Dag Nabbit at ExactlyAsOld.com Posted: July 09, 2017 at 06:23 PM (#5490201)
Today, I'm exactly as old as Old Hoss Radbourn was the day he died: 15,397 days

Anyone who wants to can look up as-old-as stuff like this for themselves here.
   68. Perry Posted: July 09, 2017 at 06:24 PM (#5490202)
Every pitch that inning was shoulders or higher. He was gassed. Hell of a game at Coors.


He might have been gassed, but those high pitches looked intentional, Hanigan was setting up high and they were chasing out of the zone.
   69. Perry Posted: July 09, 2017 at 06:27 PM (#5490203)
Hope the 126 pitches don't hurt him. Maybe skip him a start and with the all-star break that'll give him a nice breather. They look like they're managing the young pitchers' workloads by sending them to the minors for a break. They did it with Senzatela and Marquez might be next.
   70. Joyful Calculus Instructor Posted: July 09, 2017 at 06:28 PM (#5490204)
There we go, a CG on 99 pitches.
   71. Bote Man is no David Posted: July 09, 2017 at 06:29 PM (#5490205)
Tango's is more a DIPS-friendly version. And gets away from the point of James's original stat

...which Bill James himself declared to be nothing more than a fun little back-of-the-envelope way of evaluating a pitcher's performance. The idea that there have arisen other systems doesn't strike me as helpful, particularly if they are not clearly indicated in order to avoid the very confusion that arose here.
   72. cardsfanboy Posted: July 09, 2017 at 06:49 PM (#5490207)
MLB game day reported it as -16. If the metric has changed, then the BBREF numbers from the past may not be accurate.


mlb and bbref game scores do not match. (I made that mistake earlier this season, when Carlos Martinez had an 86 by mlb, the next day bb-ref had it at 79?----which made all the research I was doing on how great of a game that was (both pitchers had 80 game scores) for naught as neither pitcher actually had 80 according to bb-ref.
   73. cardsfanboy Posted: July 09, 2017 at 06:51 PM (#5490208)
Tango's is more a DIPS-friendly version.


Which I would have no desire to care about, James already rewards strikeouts more than other outs, no reason to increase the reward.
   74. Misirlou doesn't live in the restaurant Posted: July 09, 2017 at 07:28 PM (#5490217)
Thanks for the info on game scores. I agree 2 different metrics isn't helpful.
   75. Misirlou doesn't live in the restaurant Posted: July 09, 2017 at 07:30 PM (#5490218)
FTR, the last time the Cubs had a (traditional) game score of 9 or worse was last year. They had 3, 2 in one series against the Mets.
   76. cardsfanboy Posted: July 09, 2017 at 08:00 PM (#5490222)
My biggest issue with Tom's game score is the argument that a walk is equal to a hit. Add in that it loses the bonus for pitching deeper into games (it gives more per innings but it's a linear progression instead of rewarding pitchers who go past the 4th inning with a bonus)
The best part of Tom's system is that it treats earned and unearned runs equally...and I'm not sure about the homerun penalty, seems a bit harsh... a solo homerun is -11 to the game score.
   77. Bote Man is no David Posted: July 09, 2017 at 08:13 PM (#5490228)
Sun Monster Attacks Christian Yelich, Millions Feared Dead. Film at 11.
   78. Dag Nabbit at ExactlyAsOld.com Posted: July 09, 2017 at 08:18 PM (#5490230)
Thanks for the info on game scores. I agree 2 different metrics isn't helpful.

Especially if they're using the same damn name. First WAR, now this.
   79. Bote Man is no David Posted: July 09, 2017 at 08:32 PM (#5490233)
Rats. Cabrera single with one out in the 9th. Clean hit.

Obligatory Dr. Cox 1-hitter speech.
   80. cardsfanboy Posted: July 09, 2017 at 08:33 PM (#5490235)
Since I'm not going to bother ever really researching this too much, but did a basic search on a point I made earlier on switch hitters...

Here are the career leading switch hitters in homeruns, and how they fared homerun power wise with their "weak" side (I'm assuming that a guy who throws right handed, strong side would be batting right handed)

It's very possible that I might have screwed up a little bit, since I was only quickly looking, but I'm assuming that I didn't for now.
I used at bats over plate appearances since I'm really talking about putting the ball in play and homerun rates....

Mickey Mantle 14.1 hr per at bat with his weak side, 17 per ab with his strong side
Eddie Murray 1 hr per 21 at bats with his weak side, 1 per 26 with his strong side
Chipper Jones 1 hr per 17 with his weak, 1 per 23 with his strong.
Carlos Beltran 1 per 22 weak, 1 per 21 strong.
Mark Teix 1 for 16 weak, 1 per 19 strong.
Berkman 1 per 31 weak, 1 per 15 strong.... Berkman was a notoriously poor switch hitter (his tops+ was 66...meaning for his career his ops+ was 66 batting right, compared to his overall career totals---if he never switch hit, and batted lefty only, he is probably a much stronger candidate for the hof)
Chili Davis 1 per 25 weak side, 1 per 21 strong side
Reggie Smith 1 for 19 weakside, 1 per 32 strong side.
Ruben Sierra, 1 per 25 weak, 1 per 28 strong side.
Bernie Williams 1 per 30 weak 1 per 22 strong.
Bobby Bonilla 1 per 26, 1 per 23 strong


For the most part they are roughly equal or there is a noticeable power advantage on their "weak" side. Obviously this isn't definitive of course, that would require going through every player, doing a splits and defining strong and weak side etc. At the same time, if you look at all players, you will be including the Lance Berkman's in the discussion, guys who more than likely shouldn't have been pinch hitting.
   81. AndrewJ Posted: July 09, 2017 at 08:33 PM (#5490236)
The MLB Network's special on the '67 Red Sox is on now. And it's very well done.
   82. Bote Man is no David Posted: July 09, 2017 at 10:06 PM (#5490253)
#80 - Danny Espinosa was a curious study in switch-hitting. He might also show differences before and after he tore up his shoulder after 2012. There was a rumor of the Nats considering fixing him to batting right-handed consistently, but that never materialized, so he still hits both sides.
   83. cardsfanboy Posted: July 09, 2017 at 11:02 PM (#5490268)
#80 - Danny Espinosa was a curious study in switch-hitting. He might also show differences before and after he tore up his shoulder after 2012. There was a rumor of the Nats considering fixing him to batting right-handed consistently, but that never materialized, so he still hits both sides.


He just doesn't really have enough plate appearances in his career to really be a study of any sort. He's played 856 games, roughly 6 seasons, that isn't really enough data on an individual. At the same time, the data we do have indicates he shouldn't be a switch hitter.

To give you an idea, he's a right handed dominant player, so his better numbers should be vs a lefty.

2010...vs left .846 ops, vs right .684.
2011 ..vs left .857, vs right .703
2012 ..vs left .775 vs right .694
2013 .. vs left ---yea we won't talk about that year. --- he had a .465 ops for the season.
2014 .. vs left .859, vs right .532
2015 .. vs left .753 vs right .709...the only year he actually came close to the expected platoon difference.
2016 .. vs left .712 vs right .675, another year not wasted as a switch hitter...

I'll list 2017 in a minute, but in reality he shouldn't switch hit, outside of the last two years, he hasn't shown the ability to actually be worth the drop off.. you expect a little bit of dropoff facing the pitcher with the platoon advantage, for natural lefties it's close to 9% drop off, for natural righties, it's closer to 5%(they face righties a lot)

2017 again, who cares, he's not hitting for crap either way. .513 ops for the season... do whatever you want at that point in time.
   84. Hans Van Slooten Posted: July 09, 2017 at 11:13 PM (#5490271)
FYI, yes, MLB uses a different calculation for "Game Score" that is not Bill James'. Yes, this is annoying. Yes, we mentioned it: https://twitter.com/sean_forman/status/719519069507043328
   85. Bote Man is no David Posted: July 10, 2017 at 06:40 PM (#5490647)
Will there be a UNICHATTER for the Home Run Derby?
   86. cardsfanboy Posted: July 10, 2017 at 07:26 PM (#5490667)
FYI, yes, MLB uses a different calculation for "Game Score" that is not Bill James'. Yes, this is annoying. Yes, we mentioned it: https://twitter.com/sean_forman/status/719519069507043328


Tango was being an ass in that thread.... I expect that from MGL, not Tango. (of course the limited characters of twitter might help feed that perception.)
   87. Bote Man is no David Posted: July 10, 2017 at 07:45 PM (#5490677)
of course the limited characters of twitter might help feed that perception

Nope. Independent analysis confirms assholishness.
   88. The Yankee Clapper Posted: July 10, 2017 at 07:49 PM (#5490679)
I'm assuming that a guy who throws right handed, strong side would be batting right handed

Two problems: (1) ignoring stadium effects - e.g. Mantle had a far friendlier pull-side hitting left-handed than he did as a right-hand hitter aiming at Death Valley in the original Yankee Stadium; and (2) most switch hitters get two-thirds or more of their PAs from the left side, which gave rise to the observation that switch hitters tend to improve as left-handed hitters as their career progresses, regardless of their natural side.
   89. Bote Man is no David Posted: July 10, 2017 at 08:11 PM (#5490688)
HOLY CRAP! Giancarlo Stanton is one of the few who could make Judge look not huge standing next to him.
   90. AT-AT at bat@AT&T Posted: July 10, 2017 at 08:19 PM (#5490690)
Derby Time !

That pitcher is way too slow ! DUDE !
   91. What did Billy Ripken have against ElRoy Face? Posted: July 10, 2017 at 08:21 PM (#5490691)
Miguel Sano too. So, a couple of initial questions:

(1) Why are the windows/roof closed? It's apparently mid-80s and not supposed to rain.

(2) Not a big fan of the split screen, especially with the behind the plate and side angles.
   92. What did Billy Ripken have against ElRoy Face? Posted: July 10, 2017 at 08:22 PM (#5490693)
Ok, seeing the sweat on Sano helps answer the first question.
   93. AT-AT at bat@AT&T Posted: July 10, 2017 at 08:25 PM (#5490695)
3 billion viewers raise the roof !
   94. cardsfanboy Posted: July 10, 2017 at 08:27 PM (#5490696)
Two problems: (1) ignoring stadium effects - e.g. Mantle had a far friendlier pull-side hitting left-handed than he did as a right-hand hitter aiming at Death Valley in the original Yankee Stadium; and (2) most switch hitters get two-thirds or more of their PAs from the left side, which gave rise to the observation that switch hitters tend to improve as left-handed hitters as their career progresses, regardless of their natural side.


Agree with that, and there is more involved, but of course my entire argument was bagging on super analysts like McCarver and McLaughlin who seemed surprised, and CONSTANTLY MENTION IT EVERY BROADCAST...that Fowler has more power from his weak side...when historically, that is closer to the norm than unusual.
   95. AT-AT at bat@AT&T Posted: July 10, 2017 at 08:28 PM (#5490697)
I hope that girl's arm isn't broken !
   96. Bote Man is no David Posted: July 10, 2017 at 08:29 PM (#5490698)
This Mouse kid is pulling everything. He really needs to spray to all fields.
   97. This is going to be state of the art wall Posted: July 10, 2017 at 08:29 PM (#5490699)

psychedelic balls
-he comes up short

just getting started
who's going to have the stamina?
   98. AT-AT at bat@AT&T Posted: July 10, 2017 at 08:35 PM (#5490703)
Stanton is like : Ok, open the roof ! This is lame !
   99. This is going to be state of the art wall Posted: July 10, 2017 at 08:35 PM (#5490704)
the commentary is unbearable, I can't even satire it anymore. The transcript will be the best art you can make.
   100. AT-AT at bat@AT&T Posted: July 10, 2017 at 08:37 PM (#5490705)
Better than : 'What rhymes with 'Yummy' ?'

'Miami !'.
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