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Thursday, September 21, 2017

The Rangers release artists’ renderings of their new ballpark

Good news for BDC, I guess.

Is 2½ years a normal amount of time to build a stadium? Seems kind of long to me.

Hank G. Posted: September 21, 2017 at 08:07 PM | 26 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
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   1. Bote Man Posted: September 21, 2017 at 10:44 PM (#5536389)
#KeepBDChappy
   2. John DiFool2 Posted: September 21, 2017 at 10:54 PM (#5536412)
What was the baseball stadium with the shortest lifespan? Turner Field?
   3. Wahoo Sam Posted: September 21, 2017 at 11:06 PM (#5536432)
The "original" Polo Grounds was demolished to help make way for a street after less than two years of hosting sporting events.
   4. ajnrules Posted: September 22, 2017 at 06:36 AM (#5536581)
I find it hilarious that the artists are using a picture of Adrian Beltre standing on second following his 3,000th to display on the video board. It's a historic moment for sure, but the Rangers lost that game badly.
   5. BDC Posted: September 22, 2017 at 08:04 AM (#5536590)
I am happy, thanks all :)

The one rendering of the field and stands copies the current Ballpark precisely. I wonder if that's the idea, or whether their thinking will evolve a bit. The current Ballpark configuration is perfectly fine, but copying it seat for seat is pointless. I would imagine that the new park will have considerably fewer upper-deck seats than shown.
   6. Tulo's Fishy Mullet (mrams) Posted: September 22, 2017 at 08:06 AM (#5536592)
Wait, I don't see the A/C units?
   7. Lassus Posted: September 22, 2017 at 08:21 AM (#5536599)
The current Ballpark configuration is perfectly fine, but copying it seat for seat building a new one is pointless.
   8. Dolf Lucky Posted: September 22, 2017 at 08:30 AM (#5536605)
Admittedly, it's been 15 years since I've been to Dallas, but the Ballpark has been on my short list of favorite parks ever since. Underrated, in my opinion. Has it degraded significantly over that time or am I simply an idiot who was deluded into thinking I enjoyed my visit?
   9. Bring Me the Head of Alfredo Griffin (Vlad) Posted: September 22, 2017 at 09:11 AM (#5536627)
Admittedly, it's been 15 years since I've been to Dallas, but the Ballpark has been on my short list of favorite parks ever since. Underrated, in my opinion. Has it degraded significantly over that time or am I simply an idiot who was deluded into thinking I enjoyed my visit?


The Rangers' current stadium is fine. The team just complained that there weren't enough people coming to games because it was hot, and sometimes rained, so they needed an expensive new stadium with a retractable roof, and the city agreed to pay up because they're suckers.
   10. BDC Posted: September 22, 2017 at 09:37 AM (#5536650)
Has it degraded significantly over that time or am I simply an idiot who was deluded into thinking I enjoyed my visit?

Well, they've visibly stopped cleaning it as well as they used to, ever since they won the referendum for the new park – but no, overall, there is nothing wrong with the fabric of the Ballpark.

Being me, I have to ask you what time of year you were here. If it was an August day game and you were in the sun field, you must really have liked the park :)

They're building a new one because they can, because we've had (de facto) a permanent half-cent sales tax in place now for a generation with which to continually build new stadiums. I cannot make a serious case for building the new one, aside from my running joke about needing perfect climate control. I voted for the new park because otherwise some enterprising North Dallas suburb, or possibly the city of Dallas, would assuredly have stepped in and built one instead, and made it impossible for me to get to my 20-25 games a year. Live baseball is a real, selfish need of mine.
   11. Pat Rapper's Delight (as quoted on MLB Network) Posted: September 22, 2017 at 10:02 AM (#5536667)
The poor downtrodden Texas Rangers, whose last World Series appearances were a staggering 6 and 7 long years ago, will finally return to being a competitive team once they have air conditioning in their brand new taxpayer funded mallpark.
   12. Dolf Lucky Posted: September 22, 2017 at 10:09 AM (#5536672)
Being me, I have to ask you what time of year you were here. If it was an August day game and you were in the sun field, you must really have liked the park :)


Mid-to-late September, night game. I was in the left field seats.
   13. Flynn Posted: September 22, 2017 at 10:19 AM (#5536678)
The exterior really couldn't make it look more like a train station if they'd tried.

Are they really going to four decks with left field bleacher seats in the stratosphere? Nobody's going to want to sit in those outside of big games.
   14. jmurph Posted: September 22, 2017 at 10:23 AM (#5536681)
but no, overall, there is nothing wrong with the fabric of the Ballpark.

That's your problem right there. Should have used sturdier materials, IMO.
   15. What did Billy Ripken have against ElRoy Face? Posted: September 22, 2017 at 11:06 AM (#5536722)
The exterior really couldn't make it look more like a train station if they'd tried.

Well, they could've gone the Minute Maid route.
   16. ERROR---Jolly Old St. Nick Posted: September 22, 2017 at 11:41 AM (#5536754)
The Rangers' current stadium is fine. The team just complained that there weren't enough people coming to games because it was hot, and sometimes rained, so they needed an expensive new stadium with a retractable roof, and the city agreed to pay up because they're suckers.

Of course 15 years ago it never got hot in Arlington, so there was no way the Rangers could've foretold that reaction.
   17. Tulo's Fishy Mullet (mrams) Posted: September 22, 2017 at 12:02 PM (#5536773)
I recently read a reflective piece on Levi's Stadium (SF Niners), about how/why did the 49ers not grasp the fact that 1/2 the stadium would be baking in the sun, with light wind (as evidence by the empty seats all the time on that end). Some suggested they skimped on studies to evaluate those comfort factors, others speculated merely escaping the howling winds of Candlestick was good enough and they were headed to paradise. I don't recall a new stadium being ripped and hammered more than the 49ers stadium.

   18. Pat Rapper's Delight (as quoted on MLB Network) Posted: September 22, 2017 at 12:16 PM (#5536789)
Of course 15 years ago it never got hot in Arlington, so there was no way the Rangers could've foretold that reaction.

Global Warming Climate Change, ya know.
   19. Nasty Nate Posted: September 22, 2017 at 12:22 PM (#5536801)
I recently read a reflective piece on Levi's Stadium (SF Niners), about how/why did the 49ers not grasp the fact that 1/2 the stadium would be baking in the sun, with light wind (as evidence by the empty seats all the time on that end). Some suggested they skimped on studies to evaluate those comfort factors, others speculated merely escaping the howling winds of Candlestick was good enough and they were headed to paradise. I don't recall a new stadium being ripped and hammered more than the 49ers stadium.
Wouldn't that only be a factor for 1-2 games a year? I would guess that the rest are at night and/or late in enough in the fall to have cool weather.
   20. Tim D Posted: September 22, 2017 at 02:42 PM (#5536977)
They really should have had a roof all along. I went to night game there in April and baked, 92 and humid at game time. Another time I went to a day game (free tickets) in May and got a burn despite using max sun block. I can't see how season ticket holders do it. And how a pitcher can throw 100 pitches, I just don't know. That May game was the hottest I've ever been to and I've been to KC and St. Louis in August. It wasn't even that hot for Dallas. I was there in August a couple of years ago and it was 108 with 90% humidity. Rangers were home. I watched on TV. All that said, they should have addressed this years ago. Would it cost more to put a roof on the existing stadium?
   21. Tim D Posted: September 22, 2017 at 02:44 PM (#5536978)
"I don't recall a new stadium being ripped and hammered more than the 49ers stadium."

Or, having lived in CA for 25 years, a public more prone to ripping everything just in general.
   22. The Duke Posted: September 22, 2017 at 04:56 PM (#5537053)
St. Louis was the worst when I was growing up. Even the new stadium can be really hot. I went to many night games there where you just sat quietly and sweat. Day games could be unbearable.
   23. Bote Man Posted: September 22, 2017 at 05:23 PM (#5537067)
Old Hoss Radbourn wouldof pitched there in a parka!!11!!1

But clearly the reason attendance is so low is because fans show up at a stadium in Texas and they don't see football being played.
   24. Zach Posted: September 22, 2017 at 07:21 PM (#5537105)
I recently read a reflective piece on Levi's Stadium (SF Niners), about how/why did the 49ers not grasp the fact that 1/2 the stadium would be baking in the sun, with light wind (as evidence by the empty seats all the time on that end).

Microclimates are crazy. You only have to go a little ways inland before the foggy/chilly Bay Area climate becomes baking and bone dry.
   25. The Honorable Ardo Posted: September 22, 2017 at 09:27 PM (#5537155)
Microclimates are crazy.
Yes, and they can change with time. Wrigley Field plays neutral - even a slight pitchers' park - nowadays. A generation ago that would've been unthinkable.

The temperature differential between the land and Lake Michigan has gradually increased, which ups the frequency of cool inbound easterly winds off the lake. (Home plate is in the SW corner of the park.)
   26. Wahoo Sam Posted: September 22, 2017 at 10:33 PM (#5537195)
Which stadiums have their home plate in the northwest? I know of one. Any others?

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