Baseball for the Thinking Fan

Login | Register | Feedback

btf_logo
You are here > Home > Baseball Newsstand > Baseball Primer Newsblog > Discussion
Baseball Primer Newsblog
— The Best News Links from the Baseball Newsstand

Thursday, September 20, 2012

The Scouting Adventure That Led Red Sox to Junichi Tazawa

“I went to see him pitch up in the mountains in a country town. It was freezing cold, I walked into the stadium and he was just walking to the mound. I was thinking at the time there are no taxis up here—how am I going to get out of this place?” Deeble recalled.

Even though Deeble and Shipley were the two members of the Red Sox organization who had been most involved in the effort to scout Daisuke Matsuzaka prior to his signing with the Red Sox, at a time when nearly every member of the Red Sox front office was in Tokyo to see the right-hander pitch, the two Australians went to see Tazawa pitch in a late-March tournament.

In honor of Tazawa overtaking Scott Atchison as the Sox’ best pitcher (by WAR) in 2012.

Jose is El Absurd Bronson Y Pollo Posted: September 20, 2012 at 07:01 AM | 4 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
  Tags: japan, red sox, scouting

Reader Comments and Retorts

Go to end of page

Statements posted here are those of our readers and do not represent the BaseballThinkFactory. Names are provided by the poster and are not verified. We ask that posters follow our submission policy. Please report any inappropriate comments.

   1. Fernigal McGunnigle Posted: September 20, 2012 at 09:05 AM (#4240873)
In honor of Tazawa overtaking Scott Atchison as the Sox’ best pitcher (by WAR) in 2012.


Atchison's 1.2 IP, 1 K outing has apparently vaulted him back into the lead. I guess this passes for late-season excitement in Fenway this year.
   2. Cris E Posted: September 20, 2012 at 10:04 AM (#4240933)
Try to be a little more respectful of tradition when speaking of the Red Sox. We shouldn't forget the many decades where this sort of thing defined late-season excitement in Fenway.
   3. Golfing Great Mitch Cumstein Posted: September 20, 2012 at 02:05 PM (#4241258)
The scouting didn't seem that adventurous. The guy went to a game in the mountains and had to walk a few miles in the cold downhill.

So does Tazawa go back to starting? I inferred that from Speier's tone. The most dominant pitcher on team now throwing in the mid-90's after Tommy John seems like he is headed to starting.
   4. villageidiom Posted: September 27, 2012 at 10:43 AM (#4247064)
The scouting didn't seem that adventurous. The guy went to a game in the mountains and had to walk a few miles in the cold downhill.
I thought that, too, when I first read it. I mean, by the time he declared for MLB, many teams were familiar with him and interested. Scouting him first helped to land him, but the cloak and dagger stuff wouldn't have made much of a difference there.

But thinking about it a little more I think it was huge. It's not that they prevented attention from MLB teams; rather, they prevented attention from NPB teams. If Tazawa had entered NPB the Red Sox would still be waiting for him now, with no advantage over any other team. If NPB teams had learned the Red Sox were scouting Tazawa, he surely would have suddenly received massive attention from NPB teams that previously had been disinterested.

Being the only westerner, completely out of place in that environment, shooting video of Tazawa, could easily have been a huge red flag in Japan. Anything else to raise suspicion - even the mode of transportation, which would be a tip-off of how far he'd travelled or how "important" he was - was a risk. Whether his efforts were overblown, I don't know; but he successfully averted the downside.

You must be Registered and Logged In to post comments.

 

 

<< Back to main

News

All News | Prime News

Old-School Newsstand


BBTF Partner

Support BBTF

donate

Thanks to
Mike Emeigh
for his generous support.

Bookmarks

You must be logged in to view your Bookmarks.

Hot Topics

NewsblogAbsence makes OMNICHATTER grow fonder, for June 24, 2017
(31 - 8:10pm, Jun 24)
Last: Davoice of Dapeople

NewsblogOTP 19 June 2017: Bipartisan baseball: Dems best GOP, give trophy to wounded Scalise
(993 - 8:02pm, Jun 24)
Last: Ray (RDP)

NewsblogColumn | Freddie Freeman Shouldn't Play 3B To Accommodate Adams
(17 - 7:39pm, Jun 24)
Last: Cargo Cultist

NewsblogBeyond the Box Score: On the lack of interest in Albert Pujols’s 600 HR and Adrián Beltré’s pursuit of 3,000 hits
(90 - 7:30pm, Jun 24)
Last: puck

NewsblogCENTRAL PARK - JULY 1, 2017 10 AM - BBTF ANNUAL SOFTBALL EXTRAVAGANZA
(268 - 7:23pm, Jun 24)
Last: McCoy

NewsblogDodgers' Julio Urias to have shoulder surgery; he's out for the season
(15 - 7:15pm, Jun 24)
Last: Joyful Calculus Instructor

NewsblogOT - March 2017 NBA thread
(7179 - 6:26pm, Jun 24)
Last: maccoach57

NewsblogAsdrubal Cabrera to Mets: Trade me
(11 - 5:54pm, Jun 24)
Last: Captain Supporter

NewsblogRoyals sign former Brewers closer Neftalí Feliz and drop Chris Young
(2 - 5:24pm, Jun 24)
Last: Lassus

NewsblogYour 2017 MLB local broadcaster rankings
(60 - 4:46pm, Jun 24)
Last: Howie Menckel

NewsblogAaron Judge More Than Halfway To Rookie HR Record
(17 - 3:04pm, Jun 24)
Last: The Yankee Clapper

NewsblogAP source: Jeter doesn’t have money needed to buy Marlins
(32 - 2:38pm, Jun 24)
Last: What did Billy Ripken have against ElRoy Face?

NewsblogAnalytics haven’t ruined baseball, but that doesn’t mean they won’t
(15 - 2:29pm, Jun 24)
Last: Hysterical & Useless

NewsblogOMNICHATTER 6-24-17
(1 - 2:24pm, Jun 24)
Last: Lance Reddick! Lance him!

NewsblogRecounting the many ways baseball has changed in 20 years
(66 - 2:15pm, Jun 24)
Last: Hysterical & Useless

Page rendered in 0.2928 seconds
49 querie(s) executed