Baseball for the Thinking Fan

Login | Register | Feedback

btf_logo
You are here > Home > Baseball Newsstand > Baseball Primer Newsblog > Discussion
Baseball Primer Newsblog
— The Best News Links from the Baseball Newsstand

Thursday, September 20, 2012

The Scouting Adventure That Led Red Sox to Junichi Tazawa

“I went to see him pitch up in the mountains in a country town. It was freezing cold, I walked into the stadium and he was just walking to the mound. I was thinking at the time there are no taxis up here—how am I going to get out of this place?” Deeble recalled.

Even though Deeble and Shipley were the two members of the Red Sox organization who had been most involved in the effort to scout Daisuke Matsuzaka prior to his signing with the Red Sox, at a time when nearly every member of the Red Sox front office was in Tokyo to see the right-hander pitch, the two Australians went to see Tazawa pitch in a late-March tournament.

In honor of Tazawa overtaking Scott Atchison as the Sox’ best pitcher (by WAR) in 2012.

Jose is an Absurd Doubles Machine Posted: September 20, 2012 at 07:01 AM | 4 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
  Tags: japan, red sox, scouting

Reader Comments and Retorts

Go to end of page

Statements posted here are those of our readers and do not represent the BaseballThinkFactory. Names are provided by the poster and are not verified. We ask that posters follow our submission policy. Please report any inappropriate comments.

   1. Fernigal McGunnigle Posted: September 20, 2012 at 09:05 AM (#4240873)
In honor of Tazawa overtaking Scott Atchison as the Sox’ best pitcher (by WAR) in 2012.


Atchison's 1.2 IP, 1 K outing has apparently vaulted him back into the lead. I guess this passes for late-season excitement in Fenway this year.
   2. Cris E Posted: September 20, 2012 at 10:04 AM (#4240933)
Try to be a little more respectful of tradition when speaking of the Red Sox. We shouldn't forget the many decades where this sort of thing defined late-season excitement in Fenway.
   3. Golfing Great Mitch Cumstein Posted: September 20, 2012 at 02:05 PM (#4241258)
The scouting didn't seem that adventurous. The guy went to a game in the mountains and had to walk a few miles in the cold downhill.

So does Tazawa go back to starting? I inferred that from Speier's tone. The most dominant pitcher on team now throwing in the mid-90's after Tommy John seems like he is headed to starting.
   4. villageidiom Posted: September 27, 2012 at 10:43 AM (#4247064)
The scouting didn't seem that adventurous. The guy went to a game in the mountains and had to walk a few miles in the cold downhill.
I thought that, too, when I first read it. I mean, by the time he declared for MLB, many teams were familiar with him and interested. Scouting him first helped to land him, but the cloak and dagger stuff wouldn't have made much of a difference there.

But thinking about it a little more I think it was huge. It's not that they prevented attention from MLB teams; rather, they prevented attention from NPB teams. If Tazawa had entered NPB the Red Sox would still be waiting for him now, with no advantage over any other team. If NPB teams had learned the Red Sox were scouting Tazawa, he surely would have suddenly received massive attention from NPB teams that previously had been disinterested.

Being the only westerner, completely out of place in that environment, shooting video of Tazawa, could easily have been a huge red flag in Japan. Anything else to raise suspicion - even the mode of transportation, which would be a tip-off of how far he'd travelled or how "important" he was - was a risk. Whether his efforts were overblown, I don't know; but he successfully averted the downside.

You must be Registered and Logged In to post comments.

 

 

<< Back to main

News

All News | Prime News

Old-School Newsstand


BBTF Partner

Dynasty League Baseball

Support BBTF

donate

Thanks to
danielj
for his generous support.

Bookmarks

You must be logged in to view your Bookmarks.

Hot Topics

NewsblogOTP 2018 June 18: How Life Imitates the Congressional Baseball Game
(896 - 6:50pm, Jun 20)
Last: Mellow Mouse, Benevolent Space Tyrant

NewsblogOT - 2018 NBA Summer Potpourri (finals, draft, free agency, Colangelo dragging)
(1334 - 6:44pm, Jun 20)
Last: Mellow Mouse, Benevolent Space Tyrant

NewsblogOMNICHATTER wants to be in the room where it happens, June 20, 2018
(76 - 6:36pm, Jun 20)
Last: What did Billy Ripken have against ElRoy Face?

NewsblogFormer MLB pitcher Kevin Brown reportedly held two mail thieves at gunpoint until police arrived
(259 - 5:46pm, Jun 20)
Last: dlf

Sox TherapyA Pleasant Trip So Far
(12 - 5:26pm, Jun 20)
Last: Golfing Great Mitch Cumstein

NewsblogOT: Soccer Thread (World Cup)
(611 - 4:27pm, Jun 20)
Last: OCF

NewsblogBBTF ANNUAL CENTRAL PARK SOFTBALL GAME 2018
(116 - 4:20pm, Jun 20)
Last: Hysterical & Useless

Gonfalon CubsClicking
(71 - 4:05pm, Jun 20)
Last: Moses Taylor, aka Hambone Fakenameington

NewsblogGrumpy Gossage Napalms His Bridges:BWitz:NYT (reg req.)
(103 - 3:54pm, Jun 20)
Last: SandyRiver

NewsblogHow Major League Teams Are Using Bobbleheads to Skirt Tax Laws
(3 - 2:40pm, Jun 20)
Last: The Yankee Clapper

NewsblogOT - Catch-All Pop Culture Extravaganza (April - June 2018)
(3812 - 2:29pm, Jun 20)
Last: What did Billy Ripken have against ElRoy Face?

NewsblogOT: Wrestling Thread November 2014
(2252 - 2:10pm, Jun 20)
Last: Man o' Schwar

NewsblogPrimer Dugout (and link of the day) 6-20-2018
(10 - 2:05pm, Jun 20)
Last: Batman

NewsblogMetBblog: Mets reportedly ready to entertain trade offers for 'virtually everyone'
(48 - 2:03pm, Jun 20)
Last: What did Billy Ripken have against ElRoy Face?

NewsblogTaking Back the Ballparks - Astros voting thread
(27 - 1:58pm, Jun 20)
Last: Lance Reddick! Lance him!

Page rendered in 0.2264 seconds
46 querie(s) executed