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Saturday, May 24, 2014

The short shelf life of the Tip-Tops, the Brooklyn baseball team named for bread

For a brief shining moment between 1914 and 1915, Brooklyn had two major league baseball teams—the legendary Brooklyn Dodgers and the not-so-legendary Brooklyn Tip-Tops.

Within the New York area, one franchise was awarded to Brooklyn, owned by a baker named Robert Ward…  The baker, with his brother George S. Ward, sunk more than $250,000 into the new concrete-and-steel ballpark, situated so near the Gowanus that fans got a good whiff of its toxic odors on summer days.

An owner paying for his ballpark?  Pepperidge Farm remembers.

Gonfalon Bubble Posted: May 24, 2014 at 12:36 AM | 8 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
  Tags: brooklyn, federal league, history

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   1. AndrewJ Posted: May 24, 2014 at 10:44 AM (#4712538)
In 1915, the greater NYC area had five major league teams (counting Newark).
   2. Howie Menckel Posted: May 24, 2014 at 12:35 PM (#4712594)
It appears that bb-ref is not budging on trying to call the latter team the "Newark Pepper" and not "Peppers" - pretty sure bb-ref is wrong, though. this article has 'em as Peppers.

The Pepper(s) played in Harrison, NJ - current home of the MLS's Red Bulls soccer team - in spite of their name.
   3. Pasta-diving Jeter (jmac66) Posted: May 24, 2014 at 01:05 PM (#4712608)
It appears that bb-ref is not budging on trying to call the latter team the "Newark Pepper" and not "Peppers" - pretty sure bb-ref is wrong, though. this article has 'em as Peppers.

The Pepper(s) played in Harrison, NJ - current home of the MLS's Red Bulls soccer team - in spite of their name.

by a co-in-SIDE-ence--- I was just at the Harrison PATH station yesterday, which is literally across the street from where the Pepper(s) played. What a dumpy, depressing area
   4. Randy Jones Posted: May 24, 2014 at 01:13 PM (#4712613)
I was just at the Harrison PATH station yesterday, which is literally across the street from where the Pepper(s) played. What a dumpy, depressing area

You should have seen it a few years ago. Used to be all parking lots and empty warehouses. They knocked them all down in last ~5 years to build the stadium and some condos and commercial space there.
   5. Pasta-diving Jeter (jmac66) Posted: May 24, 2014 at 01:15 PM (#4712614)
You should have seen it a few years ago. Used to be all parking lots and empty warehouses. They knocked them all down in last ~5 years to build the stadium and some condos and commercial space there.

Well, the new parking garage for PATH is nice and convenient (and cheap). A highly recommended way to get into Manhattan from points west--easy to get to the garage by car, then $2.50 train fare each way
   6. Howie Menckel Posted: May 24, 2014 at 02:46 PM (#4712662)
yes, Harrison and Hudson County built the stadium, and decided they'd pay off the annual debt service via the taxes generated by those spiffy new condos - most of which never got built (yet).

So you lay off a few dozen cops and such, shrug, and say, "Who knew?"

I should add that because "pepper" is an ancient baseball field game, I can't rule out the singular for Newark.
   7. bobm Posted: May 24, 2014 at 10:24 PM (#4712994)
I should add that because "pepper" is an ancient baseball field game, I can't rule out the singular for Newark.

How many singular team names were there in pro sports (ie no Stanford Cardinal or Cornell Big Red) before the NBA's Heat and Jazz?

EDIT: Per B-R, the Louisville Colonels of the AA were known as the Eclipse from 1882-1884. Any others?
   8. What's the realistic upside, RMc? Posted: May 24, 2014 at 10:52 PM (#4713012)
The WFL had the Bell and the Sun and the Fire and the Steamer and God knows what all.

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