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The wonder of Wander, who is on the Rays’ fast track

Will Franco be the next?

Since 2000, just 11 players have made their major league debuts before their 20th birthday, including former Rays outfielder B.J. Upton. Others on the list Felix Hernandez (Mariners), Bryce Harper (Nationals), Jurickson Profar (Rangers), Juan Soto (Nationals), Julio Urias (Dodgers), Dyland Bundy (Orioles), Wilson Betemit (Braves), Mike Trout (Angels), Justin Upton (Diamondbacks), Jose Reyes (Mets). Source: Baseball Reference. [Times files]

Jim Furtado Posted: March 06, 2019 at 06:01 AM | 6 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
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   1. caspian88 Posted: March 06, 2019 at 11:22 AM (#5820662)
What's the best lineup you can make out of that crop of players?

C - Bryce Harper
1B - Juan Soto
2B - Jurickson Profar
3B - Wilson Betemit
SS - Jose Reyes
LF - B.J. Upton
CF - Mike Trout
RF - Justin Upton

SP - Felix Hernandez, Julio Urias, Dylan Bundy
   2. Petunia inquires about ponies Posted: March 06, 2019 at 12:06 PM (#5820676)
At 19, Bossman Junior was a middle infielder, in case you want to move Betemit over and shift Soto to the OF.

Either way pretty remarkable how well that group maps onto the diamond.

Might be interesting to move the threshold up a year and see if we could fill out a pitching staff.
   3. Nasty Nate Posted: March 06, 2019 at 12:14 PM (#5820678)

Might be interesting to move the threshold up a year and see if we could fill out a pitching staff.
Jose Fernandez and Bumgarner are a nice start.
   4. Shooty would run in but these bone spurs hurt! Posted: March 06, 2019 at 12:15 PM (#5820679)
I guess he's only a fan of the Milkmen?
   5. bbmck Posted: March 06, 2019 at 12:44 PM (#5820687)
Younger than 21 for a debut and the rotation is set:

Clayton Kershaw 20.067
Felix Hernandez 19.118
Zack Greinke 20.214
CC Sabathia 20.261
Carlos Zambrano 20.080

The 2nd rotation is pretty good too:

Madison Bumgarner 20.038
Jose Fernandez 20.250
Matt Cain 20.332
Rick Porcello 20.103
Scott Kazmir 20.212

Julio Teheran 20.100 and Jon Garland 20.281 if you prefer.

Bullpen if you don't just convert the 2nd rotation:

Francisco Rodriguez 20.254
Roberto Osuna 20.060
Jenrry Mejia 20.178 until he gets banned
Arodys Vizcaino 20.270
Oliver Perez 20.305

Edwin Jackson 20.000, Phil Hughes 20.306 and Chad Gaudin 20.130 if you prefer.
   6. bbmck Posted: March 06, 2019 at 02:54 PM (#5820724)
Played that position in first game sorted by Age since 2000, 20 meaning 20th birthday to day before 21st, had a 4+ WAR season for C and 5+ for other positions:

Under 20:

C - Ivan Rodriguez in 1991 is the most recent even without a WAR criteria
1B/DH - Melvin Upton Jr. is only, so far highest is 4.4 WAR
2B - Jurickson Profar is only, so far highest is 2.0 WAR
3B - Adrian Beltre in 1998 is the most recent, one month after Aramis Ramirez even without a WAR criteria
SS - Jose Reyes
CF - Mike Trout
LF/RF - Bryce Harper, Justin Upton

20:

C - Joe Mauer
1B/DH - Freddie Freeman
2B - no 4 WAR, Ozzie Albies 3.8, Adalberto Mondesi 3.2
3B - Manny Machado
SS - Carlos Correa
CF - no 5 WAR, Adam Jones 4.8, 4.7, 4.1, Melky Cabrera 4.8, 4.4
LF/RF - Miguel Cabrera, Jason Heyward, Giancarlo Stanton, Carl Crawford
PH/PR - Jose Ramirez, Ryan Zimmerman

21:

C - Yadier Molina, Salvador Perez, Brian McCann
1B/DH - Francisco Lindor, Anthony Rizzo, Adrian Gonzalez, Prince Fielder
2B - Jose Altuve, Javier Baez, Jonathan Schoop
3B - David Wright, Jhonny Peralta, Hank Blalock
SS - Troy Tulowitzki, Hanley Ramirez, Corey Seager, Jimmy Rollins
CF - Grady Sizemore, Byron Buxton, Jay Bruce, Matt Kemp
LF/RF - Albert Pujols, Mookie Betts, Christian Yelich, Carlos Gomez


22:

C - Buster Posey, Pablo Sandoval, Alex Avila
1B/DH - Mark Teixeira, Daric Barton, Nick Johnson
2B - Robinson Cano, Martin Prado, Howie Kendrick, Marcus Giles
3B - Nolan Arenado, Evan Longoria, Anthony Rendon, Alex Bregman, Edwin Encarnacion, Bill Hall
SS - Andrelton Simmons, Jean Segura, Rafael Furcal
CF - Andrew McCutchen, Carlos Gonzalez, Gerardo Parra (also LF/RF), Chris Young, Milton Bradley
LF/RF - Marcell Ozuna, Jackie Bradley Jr., Yasiel Puig, Michael Brantley, Nick Markakis
PH/PR - Gary Sanchez, Chris Davis, Shane Victorino, Shin-Soo Choo, DJ LeMahieu, Franklin Gutierrez

23:

C - Russell Martin, Victor Martinez, Matt Wieters, Miguel Montero, JT Realmuto, Jonathan Lucroy, Jason Castro, Brandon Inge
1B/DH - Paul Goldschmidt, Jose Bautista, Aaron Hill, Carlos Pena
2B - Ian Kinsler
3B - Ryan Braun, Kris Bryant, Alex Gordon. Kyle Seager, Josh Harrison, Chase Headley, Aubrey Huff, Garrett Atkins
SS - Dustin Pedroia, Brian Roberts, Trevor Story
CF - Kevin Kiermaier, Curtis Granderson, Adam Eaton, Jacoby Ellsbury, Austin Jackson, Ender Inciarte
LF/RF - Michael Bourn, Starling Marte, Alex Rios, Carlos Quentin, Ryan Ludwick
PH/PR - Joey Votto, JD Martinez, Aaron Rowand, Dee Gordon

24:

C - Josh Donaldson, Carlos Santana, Mike Napoli, Willson Contreras
1B/DH - no 5 WAR, Mark Ellis 4.8, 4.7, 4.0, Adam LaRoche 4.2
2B - Jason Kipnis, Orlando Hudson
3B - Matt Chapman, Justin Turner
SS - Brian Dozier, Brandon Crawford, Jason Bartlett
CF - Jason Bay, AJ Pollock, Juan Lagares, Hunter Pence, Andres Torres
LF/RF - Matt Holliday, Aaron Judge, George Springer, Charlie Blackmon, Steve Pearce, Angel Pagan, Brett Gardner, Brad Wilkerson
PH/PR - Devin Mesoraco, Chase Utley, Lorenzo Cain, Logan Forsythe, Chone Figgins, Ryan Howard

25+:

C - Carlos Ruiz
1B/DH - Jose Abreu, Reed Johnson
2B - Marco Scutaro, David Eckstein
3B - Kevin Youkilis, Matt Carpenter
SS - Ben Zobrist, Zack Cozart
CF - Yoenis Cespedes, Alexei Ramirez
LF/RF - Ichiro Suzuki, Josh Hamilton, Whit Merrifield, Mitch Haniger, Nelson Cruz, Hideki Matsui
PH/PR - Travis Hafner, Tommy Pham, Todd Frazier, Morgan Ensberg

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