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Thursday, April 11, 2013

Theo Epstein expected to address Jorge Soler incident

Cubs president Theo Epstein is expected to address the media sometime this afternoon about the situation Wednesday night involving Cubs prospect Jorge Soler at Class A Daytona. We’ll pick things up here from our blog of this morning and add some reaction, which we’ll flesh out more in depth for the paper tomorrow and online later today. The Cubs and Giants are working out on the outfield grass as a cold rain continues to fall at Wrigley Field before the scheduled 1:20 p.m. game.

...Soler, a member of the Cubs’ 40-man roster and owner of a nine-year, $30 million contract, charged across the field last night at Jackie Robinson Ballpark wielding a bat. Daytona manager Dave Keller was quoted by the Daytona Beach News Journal as saying the incident was “kind of like a nightmare.”

The paper reported “Soler was caught by teammates near the Threshers’ dugout, and he never swung the bat. But the heralded prospect was ejected following the incident, and Keller said he did not know if there would be further punishment from the Cubs or the Florida State League.”

The incident apparently was touched off by a confrontation between Soler and Clearwater’s Carlos Alonso at second base after the final play of the seventh inning. From the News Journal: “Soler slid into the base on the play, and he and Alonso exchanged words. Teammates from each side came out to separate the two, and the groups headed back to their dugouts. But Soler came sprinting back out of the Cubs’ dugout — bat in hand — toward the Threshers dugout.”

“I think that he was frustrated by some things and there was some emotional things he was fighting with,” Keller told the paper. “Why he did that, I don’t know. I think he was frustrated by what happened. When he slid into second base, (Alonso) ended up laying on top of him. He was laying on him so (Soler) pushed with his arm to get him off him, and I think the second baseman interpreted that the wrong way like he wanted to fight or something.”

Keller said the two sides exchanged words and that Soler was upset about some of the things said to him.

“There were two separate incidents, and there was really no fight,” Keller told the paper. “But because nobody was around him when he was running across the field with a bat … that makes things a little bit crazy.”

Thanks to Rock.

Repoz Posted: April 11, 2013 at 01:45 PM | 41 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
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   1. Eric Ferguson Posted: April 11, 2013 at 01:50 PM (#4410887)
I'd expect this kind of skullduggery in the WBC, but not in the Florida State League.
   2. Shooty Survived the Shutdown of '14! Posted: April 11, 2013 at 01:54 PM (#4410896)
and that Soler was upset about some of the things said to him.

No shit!
   3. Dale Sams Posted: April 11, 2013 at 02:03 PM (#4410905)
Batshit crazy!
   4. JE (Jason Epstein) Posted: April 11, 2013 at 02:04 PM (#4410908)
...Soler, a member of the Cubs’ 40-man roster and owner of a nine-year, $30 million contract, charged across the field last night at Jackie Robinson Ballpark wielding a bat. Daytona manager Dave Keller was quoted by the Daytona Beach News Journal as saying the incident was “kind of like a nightmare.”

Did Soler really think Jay-Z was hanging out in the other team's dugout?
   5. Mess with the Meat, you get the Wad! Posted: April 11, 2013 at 02:08 PM (#4410911)
this doesnt bother me, find it kind of funny
   6. RoyalsRetro (AG#1F) Posted: April 11, 2013 at 02:09 PM (#4410912)
Top comps: Jose Offerman, Izzy Alcantara, Elijah Dukes
   7. Harveys Wallbangers Posted: April 11, 2013 at 02:10 PM (#4410913)
holy juan marichal batman
   8. Randy Jones Posted: April 11, 2013 at 02:11 PM (#4410914)
What are his feelings on face paint? Because he seems like he would fit right in with the Furies.
   9. CFBF Is A Golden Spider Duck Posted: April 11, 2013 at 02:18 PM (#4410919)
Didn't the Cubs have a prospect some years ago who got in trouble for intentionally throwing a ball at a bird and killing it? Jae Kuk Ryu, maybe?
   10. McCoy Posted: April 11, 2013 at 02:23 PM (#4410926)
yep, and drafted a pitcher who got into trouble by intentionally beaning the guy on the on deck circle.
   11. Willie Mayspedes Posted: April 11, 2013 at 02:25 PM (#4410929)
Top comps: Jose Offerman, Izzy Alcantara, Elijah Dukes


and Delmon Young
   12. Bring Me the Head of Alfredo Griffin (Vlad) Posted: April 11, 2013 at 02:26 PM (#4410932)
yep, and drafted a pitcher who got into trouble by intentionally beaning the guy on the on deck circle.


Ben Christensen. More or less blinded the poor guy in one eye - he was a catcher named Anthony Molina.
   13. Shooty Survived the Shutdown of '14! Posted: April 11, 2013 at 02:30 PM (#4410935)
More or less blinded the poor guy in one eye - he was a catcher named Anthony Molina.

Yet another Molina who was too slow...


(sorry)
   14. Bring Me the Head of Alfredo Griffin (Vlad) Posted: April 11, 2013 at 02:33 PM (#4410938)
Holy ####. Molina was apparently arrested last year for (allegedly) molesting a nine-year-old girl, and had prior charges filed against him for domestic battery. Link. I feel a whole lot less sorry for him now.

The last news report I can find said that he was given a trial date of last October, so I don't know how it turned out.
   15. Voros McCracken of Pinkus Posted: April 11, 2013 at 02:35 PM (#4410939)
#6,

You can add this guy as a comp as well.
   16. Bob Tufts Posted: April 11, 2013 at 02:38 PM (#4410942)
I recommend that the government institute bat controls to stop these situations.
   17. Pops Freshenmeyer Posted: April 11, 2013 at 02:39 PM (#4410943)
Didn't the Cubs have a prospect some years ago who got in trouble for intentionally throwing a ball at a bird and killing it? Jae Kuk Ryu, maybe?

And to top it all off, the bird was an endangered or protected species, IIRC.
   18. RoyalsRetro (AG#1F) Posted: April 11, 2013 at 02:42 PM (#4410945)

Holy ####. Molina was apparently arrested last year for (allegedly) molesting a nine-year-old girl, and had prior charges filed against him for domestic battery. Link. I feel a whole lot less sorry for him now.


Christensen's beaning probably caused him to become a pedophile you see.

< / lawyered >
   19. Dale Sams Posted: April 11, 2013 at 02:44 PM (#4410948)
I recommend removing baseballs and bats from this whole 'Baseball equation'.
   20. Crispix reaches boiling point with lackluster play Posted: April 11, 2013 at 02:53 PM (#4410958)
The pitcher who was arrested for beaning a fan with a fastball that he intended to send into the opposing dugout, during the famous 2008 Peoria-Dayton brawl, was ALSO a Cubs prospect.
   21. Jose Can Still Seabiscuit Posted: April 11, 2013 at 02:54 PM (#4410959)
“But because nobody was around him when he was running across the field with a bat … that makes things a little bit crazy.”


This is just sensational. I'm trying to picture the scene. Did someone stop Soler or did he just stop himself? If someone stopped him, how stupid was that to step in front of a pissed off guy with a baseball bat? This just sounds wonderful.

Christensen's beaning probably caused him to become a pedophile you see.


I recall there was a story posted here last summer on this guy. I seem to remember it stopped a bit short of the lawyering you did (tongue in cheek I know) but basically made it out that Molina's life had gone to #### after the beaning.
   22. Swedish Chef Posted: April 11, 2013 at 03:06 PM (#4410973)
If someone stopped him, how stupid was that to step in front of a pissed off guy with a baseball bat?

I think tackling him from behind is probably the safest option (of course, it's America so there's always the option of exercising your second amendment rights).
   23. zonk Posted: April 11, 2013 at 03:44 PM (#4411017)
Ryne Sandberg says this wouldn't happen if he were in charge...
   24. dirk Posted: April 11, 2013 at 03:51 PM (#4411029)
re: #15 - he caught my dad in '73. as a kid this blew my mind. i pictured him behind the plate in his florescent macho man outfit, and a catcher's mask adorned with brightly colored tassels. "ooooh yeah...gimme the cheese"
   25. Der-K, the bloodied charmer Posted: April 11, 2013 at 04:13 PM (#4411054)
5 game suspension
   26. CWS Keith plans to boo your show at the Apollo Posted: April 11, 2013 at 05:19 PM (#4411125)
I recommend that the government institute bat controls to stop these situations.

There is simply no reason players need these sorts of assault bats.
   27. Squash Posted: April 11, 2013 at 09:13 PM (#4411288)
I like how they slip in that the name of the park is Jackie Robinson Ballpark. After all he did for him!
   28. Jack Carter, calling Beleaguered Castle Posted: April 12, 2013 at 12:06 AM (#4411383)
Holy ####. Molina was apparently arrested last year for (allegedly) molesting a nine-year-old girl, and had prior charges filed against him for domestic battery. Link. I feel a whole lot less sorry for him now.

That's enough for me. He's clearly guilty. No doubt whatever.
   29. asinwreck Posted: April 12, 2013 at 12:55 AM (#4411433)
I recommend that the government issue an immediate ban on the Chicago Cubs, who have been a clear danger to public health and morale for several decades.
   30. Bug Selig Posted: April 12, 2013 at 07:09 AM (#4411480)
That's enough for me. He's clearly guilty. No doubt whatever.


You do understand that what he said was markedly different than "He's a child-molesting wife-beater", right?
   31. Arbitol Dijaler Posted: April 12, 2013 at 08:07 AM (#4411500)
Jack Carter, International Man of Minstrelry is a child-molesting wife-beater.
   32. McCoy Posted: April 12, 2013 at 10:23 AM (#4411621)
What were the predictions for the Cubs' win total this year? I'm beginning to think losing 100 games was being too optimistic.

Bright spots so far:
Wellington Castillo-.381/.409/.619 I'm loving that he's finally gotten a chance to play everyday and even more in love with the fact that when given the chance he actually started out good. Can't believe how competent the Cubs have been at producing or getting good major league catchers over the last decade or so.

Nate Schierholtz-.304/.385/.565 Through the first week we've got Sammy Sosa back in right field. Has a grand total of 2 PA against lefties so far.

Travis Wood- 12.1 innings 1.46 ERA. Two solid starts so far

Blemishes so far:
Alfonso Soriano-.194/.219/.194 He's available

Second Base Hobbit-.111/.143/.148 with Lillibridge going 0 for 12

Third Base Troll-.148/.258/.259 with Lillibridge going 0 for 5!

David DeJesus-.192/.222/.308

Starlin Castro-.257/.257/.343 with 2 errors already

Edwin Jackson-11 innings 5.73 ERA

Scott Feldman 1 start 7.71 ERA

Carlos Marmol and Kyuji Fujikawa
   33. A big pile of nonsense (gef the talking mongoose) Posted: April 12, 2013 at 10:38 AM (#4411645)
Jack Carter, International Man of Minstrelry is a child-molesting wife-beater.


As opposed to a wife-molesting child-beater? I need to update my scorecard, I see.
   34. Bring Me the Head of Alfredo Griffin (Vlad) Posted: April 12, 2013 at 10:39 AM (#4411647)
That's enough for me. He's clearly guilty. No doubt whatever.


It's nice you were able to take time out of your busy schedule of resisting the gynarchy to favor us with your comments, Jack.
   35. Der-K, the bloodied charmer Posted: April 12, 2013 at 10:41 AM (#4411650)
What's wrong with Fujikawa? He had one rough outing where he gave up a bunch of singles...
   36. McCoy Posted: April 12, 2013 at 10:44 AM (#4411653)
What's wrong with Fujikawa? He had one rough outing where he gave up a bunch of singles...

Well, that is wrong isn't it?
   37. Bring Me the Head of Alfredo Griffin (Vlad) Posted: April 12, 2013 at 10:46 AM (#4411657)
Can't believe how competent the Cubs have been at producing or getting good major league catchers over the last decade or so.


Certainly stands out as a contrast to the prior decade, doesn't it?

Second Base Hobbit-.111/.143/.148 with Lillibridge going 0 for 12

Third Base Troll-.148/.258/.259 with Lillibridge going 0 for 5!


I must admit that I don't really understand the whole Lillibridge thing. You'd think they could at least pick up a more interesting lottery ticket like Johnny Giavotella for a handful of shiny beads.

Carlos Marmol and Kyuji Fujikawa


FWIW, while Fujikawa did have that one bad game against the Braves, subjectively he looked pretty good to me in the opening series against the Pirates. I think he'll end up as a worthwhile performer.

Marmol, on the other hand, looked totally finished. I actually felt bad for him.
   38. bob gee Posted: April 12, 2013 at 11:35 AM (#4411723)
of course the bats come flying out at night.
   39. zonk Posted: April 12, 2013 at 12:34 PM (#4411815)
I kind of like Fujikawa...

For one thing, he seems to always be around the plate - and I hate relievers who walk people... that said -- my concern would be that I'm not sure his stuff is nasty enough (nor his command spot perfect enough) to always be so consistently in the strike zone. I suppose - check back with me in June... If the league figures out that it's best to take your hacks again Fujikawa, he's going to need to adjust.

   40. VCar Posted: April 12, 2013 at 01:24 PM (#4411880)
You can add this guy as a comp as well.

Voros,
Never saw him wield a bat, just elbows and double axe-handles. (Plus the occasional brass knuckles and chairs...)
   41. McCoy Posted: April 12, 2013 at 05:14 PM (#4412211)
What's wrong with Fujikawa? He had one rough outing where he gave up a bunch of singles...


Make that two.

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