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Thin chance of Yankees success rests on one brain | New York Post

Prado is a flexibility machine. I’m surprised Girardi didn’t mention Prado at second base and first base. In his career he’s played 245 games at 2B and 56 games at 1B. Talk about Headley playing in the OF is just silly.

“These moves give us a lot of flexibility,” Girardi said in a pregame news conference. In the approximately eight-minute question-and-answer session with reporters, Girardi used the word “flexibility” six times. He scored points by staying on point.

Jim Furtado Posted: August 02, 2014 at 09:42 AM | 14 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
  Tags: chase headley, joe girardi, martin prado, stephen drew, yankees

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   1. Nasty Nate Posted: August 02, 2014 at 01:40 PM (#4763058)
Their chance of success rests on the castoffs of last-place teams running around amidst a statue dedication ceremony.
   2. NattyBoh Posted: August 02, 2014 at 01:42 PM (#4763059)
Isn't two better than one? The Man with Two Brains
   3. vortex of dissipation Posted: August 02, 2014 at 01:54 PM (#4763061)
The Yankees still have a chance if this is the guy.
   4. Ray (RDP) Posted: August 02, 2014 at 06:06 PM (#4763142)
“These moves give us a lot of flexibility,” Girardi said in a pregame news conference. In the approximately eight-minute question-and-answer session with reporters, Girardi used the word “flexibility” six times. He scored points by staying on point.

...

Girardi mentioned he could play Drew at shortstop and Brendan Ryan at second base on days when Derek Jeter rests. Prado could give his fellow newbie, Chase Headley, a blow at third base, and Headley and Ryan both could help at first base. Headley, too, could assist in the outfield, if needed, although he doesn’t seem enthusiastic about such an endeavor and reiterated Friday with multiple nice plays that he plays a very impressive hot corner.


Is it really "flexibility" when you're just playing everyone out of position?

Especially when you're doing it to avoid making the one move that should be made: Jeter to the bench.

Drew's season has been particularly bizarre, with his contract situation, and then picked up by a team that had no need for him, then part of the first Yankees-Red Sox trade in 17 years... he was playing SS for the Red Sox when he should have been playing 3B; now he'll play 2B for the Yankees when he should be playing SS.
   5. Howie Menckel Posted: August 02, 2014 at 06:14 PM (#4763145)

Jeter with his 12th double, and his raw OPS is now .666

#justsayin
   6. The Yankee Clapper Posted: August 02, 2014 at 06:47 PM (#4763156)
Especially when you're doing it to avoid making the one move that should be made: Jeter to the bench.

For Stephen Drew's .169 batting average? No thanks.
   7. Ray (RDP) Posted: August 02, 2014 at 07:08 PM (#4763166)
For Stephen Drew's .169 batting average? No thanks.


You can't believe that Drew is a true talent .169 hitter.
   8. The Yankee Clapper Posted: August 02, 2014 at 07:36 PM (#4763181)
You can't believe that Drew is a true talent .169 hitter.

You can't believe Drew has done anything this year to put anyone on the bench, except perhaps himself. If he can't play 2nd base, he'll sit; but given the competition at 2nd, he'll probably play quite a bit.
   9. shoewizard Posted: August 02, 2014 at 09:25 PM (#4763232)
Drew is usually a slow starter to begin with. I completely expected him to tank when he came back 2+ months late due to his agent's stupidity.

Would not surprise me at all to see Drew have a good run with the Yankees here. In fact the Yankees are nuts to play Jeter over Drew on defense alone. But I'll make a bet right here that Drew out OPS's Jeter from here on in.
   10. Jose Is The Most Absurd Thing on the Site Posted: August 02, 2014 at 10:00 PM (#4763246)
You can't believe Drew has done anything this year to put anyone on the bench, except perhaps himself. If he can't play 2nd base, he'll sit; but given the competition at 2nd, he'll probably play quite a bit.


Drew is going to be fine. He missed the first two and a half months then the Sox rushed him to the majors after about 10 AB in the minors. He's been hitting reasonably well for the last 3 weeks and should be expected to continue at about that level (~.740 OPS) with better defense than Jeter. I think Shoewizard is right, he'll be better on both sides of the ball than Jeter.

Selective end points yes but with reason.

Look, Derek Jeter was a great player and is a deserving Hall of Famer, first ballot if that is meaningful to you. But he's 40 and not the player he was. He no more should be playing shortstop over Drew than Honus Wagner should be at this point. If they were both 30 then yeah, take Jeter, but they aren't.
   11. The Yankee Clapper Posted: August 02, 2014 at 10:31 PM (#4763260)
Drew is going to be fine. He missed the first two and a half months then the Sox rushed him to the majors after about 10 AB in the minors. He's been hitting reasonably well for the last 3 weeks and should be expected to continue at about that level . . .

Since the All-Star Game:

Stephen Drew .214/.313/.429
Derek Jeter .306/.370/.408

Not seeing much of a case for making a change. Besides, there's more of a need for Drew at 2nd.
   12. Dale Sams Posted: August 03, 2014 at 12:41 AM (#4763289)
Since the All-Star Game:

Stephen Drew .214/.313/.429
Derek Jeter .306/.370/.408

Not seeing much of a case for making a change. Besides, there's more of a need for Drew at 2nd.


Now do the last 365 days. Regardless, you're right about the need at 2B
   13. Walt Davis Posted: August 03, 2014 at 01:38 AM (#4763292)
What is the deal about out of position?

First off, there is no "out of position" for Prado. 339 career starts at 3B, 231 in LF, 224 at 2B and even 37 at 1B. By DRS he's been above average at all of those except 2B where he's a bit below. That's flexibility.

Stephen Drew has never played anywhere but SS. True but neither has Jeter. Average or better SS usually don't have much trouble shifting to 2B or 3B although obviously you'd rather give him the offseason and spring to work on it.

Of course Jeter's defense stinks. That's been true for more than a decade. Guess what -- they're not gonna move him for the last two months of his career. Just take a deep breath, it's almost over.

It simply comes down to what mix of Jeter, Ichiro and Drew vs LHP do you want to see. All of this assuming that Beltran is done with RF, at least for this season.

The hilarious thing is the idea of Ryan getting a start at 1B. I'd almost pay to see that.
   14. Ray (RDP) Posted: August 03, 2014 at 09:37 PM (#4763619)
What is the deal about out of position?


You ask this and then later you say:

Stephen Drew has never played anywhere but SS. True


Also:

but neither has Jeter.


I had Jeter going to the bench, a position I'm confident he can play. (Of course, possibly not without complaining.) Jeter is a favorite of mine and has had a decent season, and it made sense to play him before but now they have a better SS on the team.

They go through all this trouble to trade for spare parts to try to pick up a win here or a win there, and then they keep Jeter anchored at SS.

Yes, I realize he's not moving. But the "inflexibility" on the team is the Captain. Though apparently according to Girardi, "flexibility" simply means "not the captain and not one of our regulars." Positional flexibility is largely irrelevant to Girardi's definition. Don't forget that Headley hasn't played the OF in 5 years, and has only played 3 innings at 1B in his career. Nor has Ryan played much OF or 1B, and Ryan to 1B makes about as much sense as Beltran to 2B; Ryan doesn't hit enough to play 1B.

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