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‘Three Blind Mice’ music miffs umpire at Daytona Cubs game - Sports

Emotions ran high in the eighth inning when Harper briefly disputed a call at first base and moments later heard “You’re out!” from home-plate umpire Mario Seneca.

“I thought he kicked me out of the game,” Harper said.

Instead, Seneca pointed to the press box and bellowed, “You’re gone! No more music!”

As it turns out, Seneca was not fond of the melody selection at the time. The public address system was playing “Three Blind Mice.”

Jim Furtado Posted: August 02, 2012 at 08:29 AM | 42 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
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   1. bobm Posted: August 02, 2012 at 09:08 AM (#4198711)
I have seen several minor league teams and spring training games mention a sponsor when they announced the umpires at the start of the game. Some of those sponsors were optometrists.
   2. Dale Sams Posted: August 02, 2012 at 09:10 AM (#4198713)
Perhaps they played a certain Cee Lo Green song before they shut it down.
   3. Lassus Posted: August 02, 2012 at 09:25 AM (#4198724)
The umpires are lucky they didn't play The Farmer in the Dell.
   4. Anonymous Observer Posted: August 02, 2012 at 09:56 AM (#4198755)
Oh please. It was totally Hot Cross Buns and not Three Blind Mice.
   5. T.J. Posted: August 02, 2012 at 10:04 AM (#4198759)
What, exactly, is the ump's authority to throw the music guy out, or have the music turned off? This is not only a ridiculous overreaction but overreaching. What if the music guy just ignored the ump? Could the ump order a forfeit? I can't imagine that would be proper.
   6. zonk Posted: August 02, 2012 at 10:13 AM (#4198766)
What, exactly, is the ump's authority to throw the music guy out, or have the music turned off? This is not only a ridiculous overreaction but overreaching. What if the music guy just ignored the ump? Could the ump order a forfeit? I can't imagine that would be proper.


Stuff like this has happened before -- I know I've read similar stories in at least three different umpire autobios...
   7. Crispix reaches boiling point with lackluster play Posted: August 02, 2012 at 10:30 AM (#4198782)
There are three umpire autobios?
   8. spike Posted: August 02, 2012 at 10:30 AM (#4198783)
Personally, I'd have then played with "How Dry I Am" or perhaps "Do You Really Want To Hurt Me?".
   9. RoyalsRetro (AG#1F) Posted: August 02, 2012 at 10:36 AM (#4198793)
   10. Crispix reaches boiling point with lackluster play Posted: August 02, 2012 at 10:54 AM (#4198815)
It looks like Ken Kaiser, Jocko Conlan, Durwood "You're Out, And You're Ugly Too!" Merrill, and of course Ron Luciano have autobiographies, Luciano being the one who was smart enough to grab the title "The Umpire Strikes Back". Then there's this book about a season with Hunter Wendelstedt, and Ron Luciano's other 25 books. Is that all?

None of the first umpires I thought of (Cowboy Joe West, Cowboy Doug Harvey, Cowboy Bruce Froemming, Cowboy Don Denkinger) have autobiographies.
   11. just plain joe Posted: August 02, 2012 at 11:00 AM (#4198830)
What, exactly, is the ump's authority to throw the music guy out, or have the music turned off? This is not only a ridiculous overreaction but overreaching. What if the music guy just ignored the ump? Could the ump order a forfeit? I can't imagine that would be proper.


This is covered under baseball's rule 9.01; essentially, under subparagraph (b), the umpire(s) have the authority to order any club employee to refrain from doing anything that they deem to be detrimental to the orderly playing of the game. Also, under subparagraph (c) the umps have the broad authority to rule on anything not specifically covered in the rules. So, to answer your question, they could indeed order a forfeit if the music guy did not cease and desist.
   12. RoyalsRetro (AG#1F) Posted: August 02, 2012 at 11:15 AM (#4198847)
At least he didn't throw out Tom Gugliotta.
   13. Matthew E Posted: August 02, 2012 at 11:51 AM (#4198891)
In one of Luciano's books, he tells the story of a minor-league ump throwing the organist/PA guy out after a controversial call against the home team. He had played "When Will I Be Loved" over the PA system, specifically, the lyrics "I've been cheated/Been mistreated..."
   14. Brian C Posted: August 02, 2012 at 12:08 PM (#4198909)
Steve McMichael, the former Chicago Bears player turned pro wrestler, was ejected for talking #### to Angel Hernandez during the 7th-inning stretch at Wrigley back in 2001.
   15. My name is Votto, and I love to get blotto Posted: August 02, 2012 at 12:30 PM (#4198933)
Would these have been acceptable?


Or this one.
   16. Gonfalon Bubble Posted: August 02, 2012 at 12:33 PM (#4198936)
Or anything by Eyeless in Gaza.
   17. Crispix reaches boiling point with lackluster play Posted: August 02, 2012 at 12:33 PM (#4198938)
Heavy D's "You Can't See What I See" would be a fine choice.
   18. Rennie's Tenet Posted: August 02, 2012 at 01:19 PM (#4198985)
Homage to Ralph Kramden:

Catcher: "You're pretty cool not to throw out the organist for playing 'Three Blind Mice' every time you're here."
Umpire: "THAT'S 'Three Blind Mice'?"
   19. BochysFingers Posted: August 02, 2012 at 01:38 PM (#4198996)
Are umpires so thin-skinned that they take offense to this sort of thing?
   20. Misirlou was a Buddhist prodigy Posted: August 02, 2012 at 01:50 PM (#4199005)
Steve McMichael, the former Chicago Bears player turned pro wrestler, was ejected for talking #### to Angel Hernandez during the 7th-inning stretch at Wrigley back in 2001.


God, was it really that long ago?
   21. Misirlou was a Buddhist prodigy Posted: August 02, 2012 at 01:56 PM (#4199011)
Homage to Ralph Kramden:


"What the heck is a polopony?"
   22. Perry Posted: August 02, 2012 at 03:35 PM (#4199087)
It looks like Ken Kaiser, Jocko Conlan, Durwood "You're Out, And You're Ugly Too!" Merrill, and of course Ron Luciano have autobiographies, Luciano being the one who was smart enough to grab the title "The Umpire Strikes Back". Then there's this book about a season with Hunter Wendelstedt, and Ron Luciano's other 25 books. Is that all?


Dave Pallone.
   23. bobm Posted: August 02, 2012 at 03:38 PM (#4199092)
Working the Plate: The Eric Gregg Story by Eric Gregg
Behind the Mask: My Double Life in Baseball by David Pallone
   24. bobm Posted: August 02, 2012 at 03:39 PM (#4199093)
Nobody's Perfect: Two Men, One Call, and a Game for Baseball History by Jim Joyce and Armando Galarraga
   25. bobm Posted: August 02, 2012 at 03:41 PM (#4199097)
Strrr-ike!! My First Biography: Emmett Ashford, Baseball Umpire by
Adrienne Cherie Ashford (daughter of Emmett Ashford)
   26. JJ1986 Posted: August 02, 2012 at 03:42 PM (#4199099)
Working the Plate: The Eric Gregg Story by Eric Gregg


It must be really hard for blind people to write books.
   27. bobm Posted: August 02, 2012 at 03:44 PM (#4199101)
Center Field on Fire: An Umpire's Life with Pine tar Bats, Spitballs, and Corked Personalities by Dave Phillips
   28. bobm Posted: August 02, 2012 at 03:46 PM (#4199103)
Honorable Mention: You've Got to Have Balls to Make It in This League: My Life as an Umpire by Pam Postema
   29. bobm Posted: August 02, 2012 at 03:51 PM (#4199106)
Three and Two! The Autobiography of Tom Gorman, the Great Major League Umpire by Tom Gorman (as told to Jerome Holtzman)
   30. bobm Posted: August 02, 2012 at 03:53 PM (#4199110)
Kill the Ump! by Dusty Boggess
   31. bobm Posted: August 02, 2012 at 04:18 PM (#4199128)
Umpiring from the Inside by Billy Evans
   32. bobm Posted: August 02, 2012 at 04:21 PM (#4199137)
Ruling Over Monarchs, Giants & Stars: Umpiring in the Negro Leagues & Beyond by Bob Motley
   33. Crispix reaches boiling point with lackluster play Posted: August 02, 2012 at 04:30 PM (#4199143)
That's quite a list.

I'm guessing that Dave Phillips, Tom Gorman, Durwood Merrill, Ron Luciano, Dave Pallone, and Dusty Boggess included in their books an anecdote about an organist playing "Three Blind Mice", and Pam Postema, Bob Motley, Billy Evans, Jocko Conlan, Ken Kaiser, Jim Joyce, Emmett Ashford, and Eric Gregg did not.
   34. zonk Posted: August 02, 2012 at 04:53 PM (#4199168)
I'm guessing that Dave Phillips, Tom Gorman, Durwood Merrill, Ron Luciano, Dave Pallone, and Dusty Boggess included in their books an anecdote about an organist playing "Three Blind Mice", and Pam Postema, Bob Motley, Billy Evans, Jocko Conlan, Ken Kaiser, Jim Joyce, Emmett Ashford, and Eric Gregg did not.


One thing I've learned in this thread that I've read far, far too many umpire bios...

FWIW - I know for certain I read the anecdote in at least one of Luciano's books (and maybe more than one - he wrote like 5). I think I had also read it Merrill's...

It's also entirely possible that it was the same anecdote in all instances ;-)
   35. bobm Posted: August 02, 2012 at 04:56 PM (#4199173)
Anyone read these umpire biographies?

From amazon.com:

The Men in Blue: Conversations with Umpires by Larry R. Gerlach

Gerlach has elicited entertaining stories from these figures under fire--about their lonely travels, their dealings with umpire baiters, battles for unionization, breaking through the color line, and much more. From Beans Reardon, who came up to the National League in 1926, to Ed Sudol, who retired in 1977, here is a witty and telling portrait of baseball from the boisterous Golden Age to the Jet Age of Instant Replay.


And

The Best Seat in Baseball, But You Have to Stand: The Game as Umpires See It by Lee Gutkind

To provide this unique—if controversial—look at major league baseball as umpires see it, Lee Gutkind spent the 1974 season traveling with the umpiring crew of Doug Harvey (crew chief), Nick Colosi, Harry Wendelstedt, and Art Williams, the first black umpire in the National League. The result is an honest, realistic, insightful study of the private and professional world of major league umpires: their prejudices and petty biases, their unbending pride in their performance, their inside perspectives on the game, and their bitter criticism of the abuse often directed at their profession and at their conduct. As relevant today as it was in 1974, this illustrated chronicle shows how little has changed in the lives and duties of umpires in the last quarter century.

Guided by his passionate love for the game as he wrote The Best Seat in Baseball, But You Have to Stand!, Gutkind attempted to present the umpires in a positive but realistic light: "I portrayed them as real people, honorable, hard-working and dedicated, but with warts and flaws like the rest of us. But they didn't want to be compared with real people; they wanted to be umpires—on a plateau above most everyone else." Since the publication of this book in 1975, neither Harvey nor Wendelstedt have communicated with Gutkind, with Wendelstedt even denying that Gutkind traveled with the crew.
   36. Crispix reaches boiling point with lackluster play Posted: August 02, 2012 at 05:18 PM (#4199191)
1977 was the age of instant replay?
   37. bobm Posted: August 02, 2012 at 05:24 PM (#4199194)
If you search Google Books for "three blind mice" and baseball umpire, it comes back with:
* a number of citations about Ebbets Field and the Dodgers' "Sym-phony,"
* an organist ejected from a 1985 Clearwater Phillies game,
* an organist ejected from an unspecified 1993 minor league game,
* a quote from a minor league umpire about his umpiring partner Bruce Froemming ejecting people from the press box for playing the tune,
* Bill Veeck playing it at a minor league game in the 1940s,
* the Peoria Chiefs' organist playing it a the behest of the team owner in 1984
* a mention of it being played by at least one "clever organist" in every league in As They See 'Em: A Fan's Travels in the Land of Umpires by Bruce Weber
* Ron Luciano's book Strike Two
   38. Boxkutter Posted: August 02, 2012 at 05:54 PM (#4199211)
   39. shoewizard Posted: August 02, 2012 at 07:53 PM (#4199278)
Steve McMichael, the former Chicago Bears player turned pro wrestler, was ejected for talking #### to Angel Hernandez during the 7th-inning stretch at Wrigley back in 2001.


I was all over Angel one night from the stands. Not profane...but loud and persistent. He was having a bad night.....(not news), and I was having a good one....he he....(Sam Adams, or Blue Moon or something)

Anyway...about the 5th inning, this woman sitting with two teenage girls across the aisle leans over to my buddy sitting on the aisle and asks if my friend can ask me to cool it. It turns out those were his daughters...and I was "ruining the game" for them.

I stopped going after him.....what else could I do.
   40. Gonfalon Bubble Posted: August 02, 2012 at 08:01 PM (#4199290)
Following up on Shoewizard's anecdote, here's a photo of Angel Hernandez's wife... or at least I have to assume so, based entirely on Angel's keen umpiring eye.
   41. phredbird Posted: August 02, 2012 at 08:02 PM (#4199291)
the ump in that daytona game ordered the organ and the PA turned off, so there was no more of that for the rest of the game. does that mean none of that irritating music blaring during breaks? i could go for that.
   42.     Hey Gurl Posted: August 02, 2012 at 08:51 PM (#4199319)
I'm not sure which is more ludicrous; the ump tossing the music guy or the announcer yelling "THAT'S AWESOME!!" Over and over.

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