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Tuesday, May 13, 2008
Buy Your Wags at The Hardball Rag…as Steve Treder looks back at Leon Wagner.
Deployed in a strict platoon role (fewer than 10 percent of his 241 plate appearances were against left-handed pitching) in left field by the Giants for the rest of the season, Wagner hit a blistering .317 with 13 homers. But the impression he made as a defender was less positive. Here was the summary report on Wagner in that year’s Dell Sports Baseball annual: “Raw, crude and deficient afield but has such tremendous power that he’s sure to get further examination.”
Along with ragged defense, the “raw and crude” impression may have been a function of Wagner’s approach at the plate, which featured an exaggerated high front-leg kick, á la Mel Ott or Sadaharu Oh. Such a hitting style always has been extremely unusual. I’d like to be able to give younger fans who never saw Wagner play a comparison to a modern-day hitter with a similar approach, but I can’t think of one, and in an informal poll of the THT staff, no one else can either. Both Darryl Strawberry and Kirby Puckett (not all that modern-day anymore, I know, I know) had big kicks, but not as big as Wagner’s. It was a singular style, to be sure.
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Posted: May 13, 2008 at 12:03 PM | 41 comment(s)
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1. Slinger Francisco Barrios (Dr. Memory) Posted: May 13, 2008 at 12:53 PM (#2778728)Odd, I just watched the forgettable "Resurrecting the Champ" last night.
He kind of looks like he could be Esther Rolle's brother.
I'd also give quite a bit to go back in time and sit in on one of those Orlando Cepeda, Daddy Wags and others burn sesh.
Agreed.
I always liked the way Roy Blount Jr. put it:
- Rico Carty
- Jack Cust
- Cliff Johnson
- Gates Brown
- Willie Aikens
- Mike Epstein
- Steve Balboni
-Lonnie Smith!
- Ron Kittle
- Bee Bee Richard
- Jorge Orta
- Frank Thomas
-Lonnie Smith!
Oh, yes!
Both of 'em
You sure couldn't go wrong with Todd Walker and Hanley Ramirez.
Gene Richards. Duh.
I had heard of him but only in the context of "Daddy Wags". Not remembering his real name. Mike Wagliarulo, right?
Snyder was for sure an -- interesting shortstop.
But I think we really should limit ourselves to guys who played at least one season with that as their primary position.
Alan Bannister would be a good choice, except he really wasn't all that imposing as a hitter. How about Hubie Brooks?
As previously noted, Orta makes a fine 2B, and if I had my druthers I'd probably put Jose Offerman at SS.
For 2B, how about Ron Gant? Played there in 1988.
Ron Blomberg
Rich McKinney
Raffy Ramirez
Billy Butler
Butch Hobson
Every visitng outfielder who played at the Stick.
Bad fielding CF... Marvin "Break In" Bernard.
I think it would be hilarious if this team had a DH that was primarily known for his defense. Kind of like the players the Giants were using in that slot during the 2002 World Series. Why they didn't just put Damon Minor on the roster for that purpose is going to be a lifelong mystery.
It was driving me nuts at the time, but apparently Minor was hurt.
Thanks for the clarification.
As the next installment of Superdupersubs will explore, in Youngblood's tenure with the Giants he actually performed better at second base than at third base. And he wasn't exactly Bill Mazeroski.
The only ML player to share my birth date. I'm glad to see he's under consideration for the Superdupersub team.
It's an aesthetic choice. It's not so much actual defensive results we're talking about but image, popular perception, and in some cases (Pedro Guerrero, for instance), that particular player's attitude towards defense. ("Please don't hit it to me.") It's about Luzinski or Bob Watson playing left field line and ceding control of left and center to Maddox or Cedeno.
Catcher: Cliff Johnson (a good backup catcher and pinch-hitter, but stone hands and a popgun arm)
First Base: Dick Stuart (never actually saw him play, but some of those stories about him have to be true)
Second Base: Jorge Orta (an outfielder in middle infield clothing)
Shortstop: Alan Bannister (I believe he and Orta formed a double-play combination one year, brutally bad)
Third Base: Jim Ray Hart (bad range, bad hands, little interest in fielding)
Left Field: Greg Luzinski (played left field like "bull in a china shop")
Center Field: Willie Montanez (only played one season there, before mercifully moving to first base)
Right Field: Pedro Guerrero (it's hard to find a brutal right fielder, because it's a demanding position, but let's go with Pete)
Utility: Curt "Clank" Blefary (jack of all trades, master of errors)
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