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Monday, April 21, 2008

THT: Walsh: How fast should a fastball be?

“Which is the better pitch: an 87-mph fastball on the outside corner or 96 down the middle? John has a look using (of course) PITCHf/x.”

The first plot shows the percentage of swing-and-misses relative to the number of swings. We expect a greater percentage of misses as speed increases and we see that for both the low-and-away and the middle-in pitches. The trends aren’t that startling, although it appears that throwing above 94-mph really helps, especially on the inside pitches. Naturally, pitches on the outside portion of the plate are harder to hit than inside pitches. In any case, there is nothing in this plot that explains why speed doesn’t matter low-and-away.

Next, we have the percentage of called balls, relative to the number of taken pitches. I found this plot fascinating, mostly because it came as a surprise. Around 30 percent of all taken pitches in the low-and-away zone are called balls and the faster the pitch, the higher chance it has of being called a ball. Remember, essentially all these pitches are actually in the strike zone and should have been called strikes. So, here we see a definite disadvantage to throwing hard—you have a greater chance of a bad call from the umpire. That sucks doesn’t it? Ninety-eight mph heater at the knees on the outside black: BALL! calls the ump. Same exact location, but now it’s thrown at 86 mph: STRIKE! Maybe this is the reason that guys like Tom Glavine, who work the outside corner with soft stuff, seem to get more than their share of close calls.

Repoz Posted: April 21, 2008 at 06:11 PM | 4 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
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   1. Bill Liming Posted: April 21, 2008 at 06:29 PM (#2753209)
Haven't read TFA yet, but there's at least one obvious possibility here. The Tom Glavine's and Greg Maddux's of the world are the guys who get that call on the outside corner. Veterans with a track record of success, who are also more likely not to be as hard throwing as the less well established fireballers in general. So maybe it's not the speed that's the issue, but an inherent bias in favor of vets, especially good ones.

EDIT: OK, I see he mentions Glavine, but posits that Glavine gets the call because he doesn't throw as hard. I think it's more likely Glavine gets the call because he's Glavine, and that's what making outside "slow" fastballs look better. Be interesting to see a breakdown of strikes called by speed/zone that's also broken out by age/tenure of the pitcher.
   2. Tuque Posted: April 21, 2008 at 06:29 PM (#2753210)
So, not only do fireballers throw harder, but they also have to have better control?

That seems so bass-ackwards.
   3. The cushions are crowded for Edmundo Posted: April 21, 2008 at 06:36 PM (#2753219)
So, not only do fireballers throw harder, but they also have to have better control?

That seems so bass-ackwards.

Mebbe, but mebbe not. The soft tossers are more likely to be nibblers and trying to hit the edge, whereas the hardballers are only trying to hit the zone. Just a dataless postulate on my part, mind you.
   4. lincarnate Posted: April 22, 2008 at 01:24 AM (#2753571)
So, not only do fireballers throw harder, but they also have to have better control?

That seems so bass-ackwards.


Well, there's not many pitchers in the major leagues that throw <86 MPH, so besides the Glavines and Moyers, you mainly have injured pitchers who are either working their way into or out of the majors. Think Jeff Weaver or Mark Mulder in recent years.

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