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Sunday, June 03, 2012

Thurm: What Baseball Can Learn From Hockey’s Video-Review ‘War Room’

A follow-up on Passan’s piece and Selig’s dire prediction of half-a-jillion dollars to add video review to MLB. Video after jump (hope it works).

Located in the Air Canada Centre in Toronto, the “War Room,” as it’s called, is named for former NHL coach Roger Neilson, who pioneered the use of video for player development and practice session. Flat-screen, high-definition televisions cover the walls. There are also cubicle work stations with three smaller screens in each and additional cubicle work stations in a room across the hall. Video-review personnel monitor the video and audio feed of every on-going game. The video-review judges in each arena—who also have high-definition video feeds of each questionable goal—have a direct phone line into the War Room.

Questionable goals arise when it’s not clear if the puck hit the crossbar or the goal posts, crossed the goal line, was kicked in by a player, or knocked in by a player’s high stick. War Room personnel get involved in every review, watching the play from multiple angles, and conferring with the off-ice video judge and, on occasion, the on-ice referees. Most plays are reviewed and a decision reached in a minute or so. Some take a bit longer.

Greg Franklin Posted: June 03, 2012 at 02:41 PM | 12 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
  Tags: hockey, television, umpires

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   1. McCoy Posted: June 03, 2012 at 05:13 PM (#4146968)
We're not selling waders here, eh?
   2. depletion Posted: June 03, 2012 at 06:01 PM (#4146993)
Gentlemen! You can't fight in here! This is the War Room!
   3. Random Transaction Generator Posted: June 03, 2012 at 06:21 PM (#4147009)
What is supposed to be under the quote?

All I'm seeing is a tiny embedded window for this very same BBTF web page.

When I scroll to the place where the window would be in the tiny version, it says:

"Error: The URL contains too many segments."
   4. bobm Posted: June 03, 2012 at 06:24 PM (#4147011)
FTFA:
A group of umpires will watch games from a central location.

On plays that are "clearly wrong" the group would then signal the umpires at the game and let them know there is an obvious call that needs to be changed.

MLB hopes to implement an introductory version of the system in 2013.

The initial system would only review home runs, whether a ball is fair or foul, and whether or not a player caught a ball. [Emphasis added]


I know replay has been debated to death here, but here is a question...

If they had fair/foul replay in place this year, and the replay war room overruled the 3rd base umpire's "foul" call during the Santana no-hitter, where does the batter--Beltran, standing in the batter's box--get put on base? On 1st base? On 2nd base?

On these types of calls (like the Beltran fair/foul ball during the Santana no-hitter), will umpires tend to call "fair" and "no catch" and let replay sort it all out, regardless of what they think they see?
   5. Best Regards, President of Comfort, Esq. Posted: June 03, 2012 at 06:40 PM (#4147016)
What is supposed to be under the quote?

All I'm seeing is a tiny embedded window for this very same BBTF web page.

When I scroll to the place where the window would be in the tiny version, it says:

"Error: The URL contains too many segments."
I was hoping that it would have the window embedded in it, and so on, ad infinitum.
   6. tshipman Posted: June 03, 2012 at 08:50 PM (#4147090)
Before reading the intro, I thought it was sort of a meta-joke. Like, that the window was an instant replay of the page?

Apparently, just a fuck-up
   7. John Northey Posted: June 04, 2012 at 11:55 AM (#4147605)
I still think having a 5th umpire who is responsible for video replay checks and scoring calls (such as errors) would be an excellent idea. Then when a call is overruled the umps on the field would know it was one of their own who decided, thus more likely to accept and move on, would let the umps see how they miss plays (watching others who were not in position would help) and could speed things up if you left it wide open for all plays and the ump calls down if there is an issue. Perhaps a button he could hit that would send 'play under review' to the video screen as well as a beeper to the home plate ump so he knows to hold off continuing the game for a minute. Also by having him do error calls you'd cut back on silliness like players appealing the call to a home town scorer.
   8. OsunaSakata Posted: June 04, 2012 at 12:33 PM (#4147662)
I agree that it would be better for the umpires to be overruled by one of their own. However, adding a fifth umpire would mean adding 15 more umpiring jobs and creating replay facilities in every stadium. The war room in TFA would be better idea as it could be designed from the start for the purposes of replay. I've been advocating for creating a new crew requiring hiring only 4 more new umpires. Each crew would have a regular rotation in Secaucus, sharing replay duties among all the games that day.
   9. Lassus Posted: June 04, 2012 at 12:44 PM (#4147673)
Each crew would have a regular rotation in Secaucus, sharing replay duties among all the games that day.

For the sake of pedantic accuracy, the replay room is in Manhattan, at MLB.com, not at the MLB Network. It is not large at all, they'd certainly have to embiggen the area for your plan.

Also, the way the tech is set up, the jobs involved (if it goes per stadium) would be a lot more than 15 umps, but also 30 tech crews, one per stadium. Not that MLB can't afford it, but someone somwhere is sure to cry - and loudly - about having to pay that many more people.

   10. BDC Posted: June 04, 2012 at 12:49 PM (#4147677)
Why not just combine the War Room with the Fan Cave?
   11. smileyy Posted: June 04, 2012 at 03:11 PM (#4147868)
Fractal BBTF!
   12. The Yankee Clapper Posted: June 04, 2012 at 03:32 PM (#4147894)
Why not just combine the War Room with the Fan Cave?

Brilliant!

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