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Sunday, September 23, 2018

Tickets available as Marlins host Reds

MIAMI—The Miami Marlins, dead last in the major leagues in attendance, conclude their 2018 home schedule Sunday against the Cincinnati Reds.

The Marlins, who are averaging just over 9,000 fans per game, trail the next-worst team, the Tampa Bay Rays, by more than 200,000 in total attendance.

Miami’s 2018 attendance is the worst by a major league team since the Expos’ final season in Montreal in 2004.

Mind you, I would be far more shocked if this game was a sell-out….

QLE Posted: September 23, 2018 at 12:01 PM | 98 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
  Tags: marlins, nobody shows up, reds, tickets

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   1. snapper (history's 42nd greatest monster) Posted: September 23, 2018 at 12:34 PM (#5749879)
Why would any logical person be a Marlin fan at this point? You know ownership doesn't give a rats ass about winning. Jeter is being explicitly paid to keep short terms profits up, which, given MLB's economic structure, means keeping costs as low as possible.
   2. Los Angeles El Hombre of Anaheim Posted: September 23, 2018 at 12:37 PM (#5749880)
Tickets available as Marlins host Reds
All fans will receive gift baskets, as they've been well and properly ###### by ownership.
   3. You Know Nothing JT Snow (YR) Posted: September 23, 2018 at 12:40 PM (#5749881)
“Promise of endless free money creates disincentive for team to pursue tradition means of revenue generation.”

Wotta scoop!
   4. eric Posted: September 23, 2018 at 12:57 PM (#5749885)
Why would any logical person be a Marlin fan at this point? You know ownership doesn't give a rats ass about winning.


What were people saying about the Astros in 2011-13? Maybe there really is a long-term plan in place. (Or, of course, maybe this is their long-term plan.)
   5. BDC Posted: September 23, 2018 at 01:00 PM (#5749887)
Sounds like a laid-back place to see a game. Is the Miami park nice? Who would know, I guess.

Miami is one of a few major-league cities I have never even been to, let alone to a game there. The others are Phoenix and Seattle, and Anaheim too, though I have been in the LA area several times. (I've been to 14 other major-league cities, somehow, without managing to see games there.)

Now that I've gotten a little more energetic about seeing MLB stadiums, the Marlins' is relatively high on my list to get to. Though I'm not setting any blistering pace, so it will probably take a few years.
   6. Misirlou doesn't live in the restaurant Posted: September 23, 2018 at 01:05 PM (#5749888)
Sounds like a laid-back place to see a game.


It is quite the opposite. They play club music cranked up to 11 during every second of dead time: before the game, between innings, and between pitches. The only time you can talk to the person next to you (and be heard), is when the ball is in play. Sunday afternoons when the roof is open (a rare event, but it happens occasionally) are slightly more tolerable, but still not very pleasant.

Is the Miami park nice?


It is actually. It would be a fine place to see a game if they cut down on the noise.

Now that I've gotten a little more energetic about seeing MLB stadiums, the Marlins' is relatively high on my list to get to.


Let me know when you go. I may join you. especially if it's a Cubs game.
   7. What did Billy Ripken have against ElRoy Face? Posted: September 23, 2018 at 01:15 PM (#5749892)
It is actually. It would be a fine place to see a game if they cut down on the noise.
It has an effing DJ. Enough said.

EDIT: ...which you already alluded to in the first part of your post, I see. Carry on.
   8. Bote Man Posted: September 23, 2018 at 01:22 PM (#5749896)
Marlins Park gives me the vibe of an indoor soccer stadium. It just doesn't feel like a baseball park. I've never been there when the roof and outfield glass wall have been open; that's typically only done in April and May before the humidity peaks and rain chances increase.

There is no place to sit unless you paid for it: if you want to enjoy a hot dog or beer along the concourse then you will be standing at a high-top round table that has no stools or benches.

It does have an interesting display of many hundreds of bobbleheads behind glass which is a fun diversion before the game starts.

I really think they blew it by building it at the Orange Bowl site, because there's a plot of land right at I-95 and Broward Blvd that was cleared for a stadium of some sort with exit ramps, parking lots, and train service right there. There have been times that I've considered going to a game, but when I look at the traffic overlay on Google Maps I just crack open a beer and watch it from home.
   9. BDC Posted: September 23, 2018 at 01:24 PM (#5749898)
Excellent, Misirlou! I will let you know. Though I guess our conversation will be nil :)
   10. snapper (history's 42nd greatest monster) Posted: September 23, 2018 at 01:25 PM (#5749901)
Miami is one of a few major-league cities I have never even been to, let alone to a game there.

Problem is, the time to go to Miami is not during baseball season. You want to go there when it's cold up north. Then their weather is lovely.

By May it's oppressive as hell unless you're within a block of the beach.
   11. snapper (history's 42nd greatest monster) Posted: September 23, 2018 at 01:27 PM (#5749903)
What were people saying about the Astros in 2011-13? Maybe there really is a long-term plan in place. (Or, of course, maybe this is their long-term plan.)

If I were a Houston fan, I wouldn't have wasted my money on the 2011-13 version either. Make them prove it to you. You can always start paying attention again if they get good.

No reason to show loyalty to a for profit corporation that doesn't give two shits about you except for your money. You wouldn't buy a crappy car hoping that the company has a plan to make good cars in 5 years.
   12. Bote Man Posted: September 23, 2018 at 01:32 PM (#5749904)
By May it's oppressive as hell unless you're within a block of the beach.

My favorite month in south FLA is May. It has yet to get oppressively hot, the insects haven't gotten the word to attack en masse, and the days are long enough to enjoy at either end. It can get downright chilly here in January and February; I have to laugh at people desperate to get their money's worth out of their trip by bracing against the northeast wind off the Atlantic cutting through them as they get sandblasted on the beach. Besides, we have this newfangled thing called air conditioning that helps.
   13. Howie Menckel Posted: September 23, 2018 at 01:46 PM (#5749912)
Miami is one of a few major-league cities I have never even been to, let alone to a game there. The others are Phoenix and Seattle, and Anaheim too

have been to all:
1. Miami
2. Seattle
3. Anaheim
4. Phoenix

Seattle would get all other remaining first-place votes, I assume. coasts - and worlds - of difference
   14. SoSH U at work Posted: September 23, 2018 at 01:49 PM (#5749913)
It has an effing DJ. Enough said.


His professional name is DJ Vertigo.

I went earlier this year. It was April, and mostly filled with Mets fans. I think the park would be a nice one, and a nice change of pace from the retros, if you lost the club beats and added some paying customers.
   15. snapper (history's 42nd greatest monster) Posted: September 23, 2018 at 01:52 PM (#5749914)
My favorite month in south FLA is May.

Maybe I've just had bad luck. But every time I was down there at that time, it was oppressive.
   16. caspian88 Posted: September 23, 2018 at 01:55 PM (#5749915)
How much would it even cost the Marlins to send gift baskets to all their fans anyway? A couple hundred bucks?
   17. Misirlou doesn't live in the restaurant Posted: September 23, 2018 at 01:57 PM (#5749916)
Marlins Park gives me the vibe of an indoor soccer stadium. It just doesn't feel like a baseball park. I've never been there when the roof and outfield glass wall have been open; that's typically only done in April and May before the humidity peaks and rain chances increase.


yes that's true. I was there opening weekend when the Cubs were in town, and Sunday afternoon the roof was open. Only time I was there for that.
   18. Misirlou doesn't live in the restaurant Posted: September 23, 2018 at 01:59 PM (#5749919)
By May it's oppressive as hell unless you're within a block of the beach.


April is usually fine. may can be at times. June -September is usually brutal. That's when we do most of our boating/snorkling/diving/hanging out at the sand bar.
   19. You Know Nothing JT Snow (YR) Posted: September 23, 2018 at 02:07 PM (#5749920)
I really think they blew it by building it at the Orange Bowl site, because there's a plot of land right at I-95 and Broward Blvd that was cleared for a stadium of some sort with exit ramps, parking lots, and train service right there


Unless that area has changed a fair bit that’s a pretty crappy section of town.
   20. Misirlou doesn't live in the restaurant Posted: September 23, 2018 at 02:19 PM (#5749923)
I really think they blew it by building it at the Orange Bowl site, because there's a plot of land right at I-95 and Broward Blvd that was cleared for a stadium of some sort with exit ramps, parking lots, and train service right there.


One of the advantages of no one going is that parking is never a problem. I arrive from the west on the Dolphin. The exit on 17th st can be backed up, but if you stay to the left, there is an additional exit onto 15th that no one uses, and it dumps you into a neighborhood where people are selling parking on their lawns or driveways for $5-$10. I can be in the stadium quicker than the people I passes waiting to exit actually get off the Dolphin. Egress is also a snap. drive under the Dolphin, go west 2 blocks back to 17th, and the entry ramp to the Dolphin westbound is right there. Takes about 5 minutes.

When we go, we go for the Saturday and Sunday games and stay at an airport hotel. Takes less than 15 minutes to get from the stadium to the hotel.
   21. cardsfanboy Posted: September 23, 2018 at 02:40 PM (#5749930)
you people are now making me make plans for a summer vacation series to see a team in a foreign land... my gf has family in Arizona so we are now planning on going there to see a game next season. (I left the option open, but I'm thinking that if I plan early enough each year, I can do one specific baseball trip every year) if she isn't locked into going to see her sister (who is visiting in June anyway) then maybe I can convince her to go to sabr 49...

edit: I literally typed this, then told her about this and her response was "oddly enough I was thinking about that the other day and wondering if I should get you another sabr membership and when they were coming back to St Louis because it wasn't bad last time.".... so maybe San Diego (I told her I love San Diego weather... and her response is "of course with global warming, it will probably snow.")

(of course San Diego is one of the few visitor stadiums I have been at, not the current one, but the previous one, but still....)
   22. Misirlou doesn't live in the restaurant Posted: September 23, 2018 at 02:49 PM (#5749937)
(of course San Diego is one of the few visitor stadiums I have been at, not the current one, but the previous one, but still....)


#Me too. I think I've been to more defunct stadiums than funct.
   23. dlf Posted: September 23, 2018 at 02:52 PM (#5749939)
Why would any logical person be a Marlin fan at this point?


For the same reason that I am a big fan of the AAA Gwinnett Stripers - going to watch a baseball game is fun even if the home club doesn't put winning high on the priority list. And going to a game in Miami would share with Gwinnett another plus, that of seeing a game with 3,000 - 7,000 others rather than 45,000. Now if the reports of incredible noise are correct, I'd avoid it like the plague, but that is a different issue than the Marlins' utter lack of effort at putting a winning club on the field.
   24. Misirlou doesn't live in the restaurant Posted: September 23, 2018 at 02:54 PM (#5749942)
In use:

CHC
CHW
LAD
LAA
MIN
OAK
PHL
BOS
MIA
TBR
BAL

No longer in use:

SFG
SDP
CHW
MIL
STL
TEX
CLE
MIA
MIN

OK, 11-9. I need to get to TEX before they tear that one down, hope the Rays finally get a new park, while never going to another new park and I'll be all caught up.
   25. Bote Man Posted: September 23, 2018 at 02:59 PM (#5749944)
Unless that area has changed a fair bit that’s a pretty crappy section of town.

So was soufeas D.C. before they built Nationals Park there. I got lost-ish late one night under the South Capitol Street overpass and saw the burned out hulk of an automobile up on cinderblocks. I got the h3ll outta there in a hurry. Now it's all gentrified, same as would happen in Lauderdale had they built it there. There's even a new Walmark right there at Broward and 27th Avenue.

Plus, it's centrally located between Palm Beach and Dade Counties. I can't imagine folks up in West Palm and Jupiter fancy fighting the traffic to get way the heck down to the Orange Bowl site. Pro Robbie Stadium has its own exit off the Turnpike, that's as easy as it gets. Ah well.
   26. Bote Man Posted: September 23, 2018 at 03:02 PM (#5749946)
Now if the reports of incredible noise are correct, I'd avoid it like the plague

I imagine that opening the roof and outfield glass wall would reduce the echo of deafening noise, but getting them to turn it down would likely be met with the retort, "If it's too loud, then you're too old!"
   27. cardsfanboy Posted: September 23, 2018 at 03:07 PM (#5749951)
That is a lot of stadiums... I have only about 8...

in use
STL
LAD
Mil
CHC

defunct
Angels
Padres
STL
(apparently 7.)

that is why I want to make it part of a yearly vacation plan.... I might have to save serious money to do a New York visit to hit both stadiums.... but outside of maybe Boston and Wash/Baltimore, no other places seems like they would be a real money commitment with a year notice.


I mean, if you make this part of a week vacation, it should be easy enough to do Cle/Cincy one week... Bal/DC a different week, Phil/Pitt one week Mia/TBR (which I came very close to doing a couple of years ago) (I'm assuming a cost of around $500 I'm assuming a New York week would be in excess of $1000 and my numbers might be a bit off...but when I was travelling for a living that seems like enough money to cover, although I did travel using travelocity or another app, which allowed me to frequently get 3 star hotel rooms for $50 a night even in east coast cities. A plan trip requires overpaying for hotels if you plan on bringing your significant other..)

   28. SoSH U at work Posted: September 23, 2018 at 03:31 PM (#5749974)
In use:
Camden Yards
Fenway Park
CHW
Tiger Field
Jacobs Field
Nationals Park
Fish Tank
Wrigley Field
Riverfront Park
Miller Park
Allegheny Park
LAD
Mission Field
Coors Field

I hit four new parks this year: Miami, Baltimore and LA/SD on a back-to-back three weeks ago.

No longer in use:
NYA
NYM
CIN
CHW
   29. cardsfanboy Posted: September 23, 2018 at 03:38 PM (#5749980)
Assuming I win this battle with my gf(it's not really a battle, she is very accommodating, it's mostly with me convincing myself that it's worth the money) and go to San Diego next year.... I do think Pittsburgh/Philly would be the next trip to make in 2020... everyone raves about Pittsburgh stadium... so it makes sense, and the young talent in Philly would be fun to watch...(which two years from now, would be not young, but in their prime)

Still it does seem like a fun exercise to just do a vacation for a week a year (I currently get three weeks of paid vacation, but I just use the days during the year one here, one there instead of an actual vacation....and people mock me for that...so maybe I'll start to do things differently)


   30. BDC Posted: September 23, 2018 at 03:50 PM (#5749991)
Till pretty recently I had been to more defunct parks than current. I have now been to eleven current (TEX, COL, KCR, CHC, CHW, CLE, PIT, PHI, NYY, BOS, TBR) and six defunct (Arlington, Yankee, Shea, Connie Mack, the Vet, Olympic – Olympic still exists, but its team doesn't).

A few I've been to because I was in town for some other reason anyway, like Kaufmann Stadium a couple of months ago. But lately I have started to do just what fanboy is contemplating: make baseball the main reason to go to a city. I like to spend a couple of days in a place, see museums, art galleries, food halls, just walk around, but baseball is central. For that reason I like cities with downtown stadiums and walkable or public-transit-friendly layouts. Next year it looks like San Diego in August (I also have friends and family there). Maybe we can do a random BBTF-SD meetup :)
   31. cardsfanboy Posted: September 23, 2018 at 04:03 PM (#5750004)
make baseball the main reason to go to a city. I like to spend a couple of days in a place, see museums, art galleries, food halls, just walk around, but baseball is central.


That seems like a good plan to me.. I'm going to see baseball, but I plan on doing it for a week, which means eating out every day, visiting things like museums and other points of interest, it's partially why I assume any visit to New York will be much more expensive... I mean if I go to New York city, there is just so many things to do...eat crappy grease filled pizza, ride the subway, go to great museums etc.... I made the mistake of going to Milwaukee and Chicago during a weekend (Thursday game in Chicago and a weekend series in Milwaukee) while not doing much else(went to Milwaukee for a funeral... I mean a wedding of one of my gf's friends, but it was timed perfectly with a Cardinal series)
   32. vortex of dissipation Posted: September 23, 2018 at 04:26 PM (#5750024)
The Miami Marlins, dead last in the major leagues in attendance, conclude their 2018 home schedule Sunday against the Cincinnati Reds.
The Marlins, who are averaging just over 9,000 fans per game, trail the next-worst team, the Tampa Bay Rays, by more than 200,000 in total attendance.
Miami’s 2018 attendance is the worst by a major league team since the Expos’ final season in Montreal in 2004.


In 1956, the New York Giants averaged 8,171 fans per date. In New York City, with Willie Mays in the prime of his career...
   33. cardsfanboy Posted: September 23, 2018 at 04:56 PM (#5750045)

In 1956, the New York Giants averaged 8,171 fans per date. In New York City, with Willie Mays in the prime of his career...


Counting of ticket sales was different at that time period, it was based upon actual bodies in the ballpark.... nowadays it's based upon ticket sales... I'm pretty sure that the Marlins have had fewer people in actual attendance than the Giants did that year(on average)
   34. Bote Man Posted: September 23, 2018 at 05:03 PM (#5750052)
Assuming I win this battle with my gf (it's not really a battle, she is very accommodating, it's mostly with me convincing myself that it's worth the money) and go to San Diego next year.... I do think Pittsburgh/Philly would be the next trip to make in 2020... everyone raves about Pittsburgh stadium

Pittsburgh: It's not a stadium, it's a ballpark in the truest sense of the word. They really got that one right. I had never been actually *to* Pittsburgh until late July when the opportunity presented itself. I was not disappointed. Plus, the Pirates won on a walk-off hit in the bottom of the 9th so the yocals went home happy. Unless it gets rained out (why I was driving near it before, but didn't go to a game) you can't miss at PNC Park. Must go!

San Diego: I spent 3 months in Autumn of 2006 doing contract work that took me all over San Diego County. As a visitor you can make your own opportunities, but living there I learned that the sunshiny hype about how great it is there was mostly Chamber of Commerce sales pitch designed to attract touri$t$. I arrived just as the championship season was ending so had no opportunity to see a game at Petco Park, although peeps say it is among the nicest ones, a la PNC Park. I'm just weird because I don't consider 66 clammy degrees under the marine layer to be enjoyable weather, I like it warm enough that I don't need a sweatshirt. I'm skinny so I don't have the...insulation that most have. For a week-long visit you could probably stand it. Maybe take a jaunt over the hill to visit phredbird?
   35. cardsfanboy Posted: September 23, 2018 at 05:09 PM (#5750059)
San Diego: I spent 3 months in Autumn of 2006 doing contract work that took me all over San Diego County. As a visitor you can make your own opportunities, but living there I learned that the sunshiny hype about how great it is there was mostly Chamber of Commerce sales pitch designed to attract touri$t$. I arrived just as the championship season was ending so had no opportunity to see a game at Petco Park, although peeps say it is among the nicest ones, a la PNC Park. I'm just weird because I don't consider 66 clammy degrees under the marine layer to be enjoyable weather, I like it warm enough that I don't need a sweatshirt. I'm skinny so I don't have the...insulation that most have. For a week-long visit you could probably stand it. Maybe take a jaunt over the hill to visit phredbird?


I lived in southern Cali for 5 years(with a few deployments) and I don't think it was hype. I absolutely loved San Diego....even though it was boot camp the first three months I was there. In comparison to other places I've lived it's weather is a lot more consistent (yes sure I lived in Missouri---which has to be on the short list of states with the most radical weather, Oklahoma, Tennessee, and Louisiana)
   36. BDC Posted: September 23, 2018 at 05:25 PM (#5750076)
In 1956, the New York Giants averaged 8,171 fans per date. In New York City, with Willie Mays in the prime of his career...


And they were paying Willie Mays $30,000, according to B-Ref. Now of course Andy will be along in a moment to tell us that in 1956 you could get into the Polo Grounds by yelling "Hey, is that Lana Turner over there?" and jumping over the turnstile while the ticket-taker was distracted. But it seems that the Giants made profits even at that level of attendance. (They left NY for much greater profits in California.)

   37. phredbird Posted: September 23, 2018 at 05:32 PM (#5750082)

huh, i was just about to invite CFB to meet me at a game in LA if he makes it out my way.

Also, feel free to look me up in Palm Springs during your western vacation CFB.
   38. phredbird Posted: September 23, 2018 at 05:34 PM (#5750083)

i can be reached via my email link here.
   39. cardsfanboy Posted: September 23, 2018 at 05:37 PM (#5750085)
huh, i was just about to invite CFB to meet me at a game in LA if he makes it out my way.


Dodger stadium is the stadium that I have been to second most(well third most if you count busch two and three) in my life...went to a bunch of games when I lived out there... one of my favorite memories of going to a game, was going to a game in which Todd Zeile was still a Cardinal, and it was camera day, so they invited the fans to walk on the field and take pictures... and there were more Cardinal fans than Dodger fans there, so security started to get concerned with the growing mass of Cardinal fans hanging out at the visitor dugout, so they exiled the Cardinal players off the field.... so Todd Zeile was signing autographs and turning them into paper airplanes since he wasn't allowed to sign directly.

I thought the park was nice, but always thought it was weird that the only parking was the stadium parking....
   40. cardsfanboy Posted: September 23, 2018 at 05:38 PM (#5750087)
Also, feel free to look me up in Palm Springs during your western vacation CFB.


definitely... I went to the Brewers stadium and met up with a guy from the Neyer board at the time...I know he made it to this board for a bit, but no clue what happened to him.
   41. Fernigal McGunnigle Posted: September 23, 2018 at 06:47 PM (#5750110)
Why would any logical person be a Marlin fan at this point?

For the same reason that I am a big fan of the AAA Gwinnett Stripers - going to watch a baseball game is fun even if the home club doesn't put winning high on the priority list.
I think that "being a fan" and "enjoying going to the games" are different things. I mean, it's definitely fun to go to a game and cheer the local nine, whoever they are. But being a fan requires a bit more than that. I think that if I lived in Miami I'd go to a reasonable number of games, because live baseball games are awesome. But I'd never liten to them on the radio or buy a jersey or check their box score the moment I wake up or anything like that.

EDIT: Also, Gwinnett is playing the same game that their opponents are; they're all doing the best they can game-to-game, but everyone knows that the AAA win/loss record isn't why we're here. Miami OTOH is qualitatively different from their peers.
   42. MikeinMI Posted: September 23, 2018 at 07:51 PM (#5750132)
In use:
NYY
BOS
TAMPA
BAL
TOR
DET
CLE
KCR
MIN
CHW
LAA
SEA
OAK
TEX
PHI
WAS
CHC
PIT
MIL
CIN
STL
LAD
SDP
ARI
COL

Old ones
NYY
DET
CLE
CHW
MIN
NYM
MIA
ATL
PHI
PIT
CHC
CIN
MIL
SFG
   43. Tulo's Fishy Mullet (mrams) Posted: September 23, 2018 at 09:22 PM (#5750218)
I've been dragging my family to spring break trips which coincide w opening day. It's worked out well. Seattle, San Diego, ATL and Milwaukee the past four years. If we do Fla/AZ trips it's in the winter months. I'm built like a snowbird. Melt to death otherwise.

I've only been to AZ and Fla. in Nov, Dec, Jan, Feb, Mar.
   44. Howie Menckel Posted: September 23, 2018 at 10:33 PM (#5750275)
I am a 'been everywhere, man' like Johnny Cash sings about, including Heinz Field in Pittsburgh.

the Pirates play so close, but have not been inside. that said, I have spent enough time in Pittsburgh including a Steelers AFC title game, talked to enough people who have been there, and I know the glowing reviews - so put it on the bucket list.

and the people are great. the Steelers fans, and possibly Penguins fans, have a weird blue-collar sense of entitlement that doesn't work given my upbringing. the Pirates fans - them, I get. overall, still a must-visit.
   45. Tulo's Fishy Mullet (mrams) Posted: September 23, 2018 at 11:09 PM (#5750298)
PNC park is wonderful. AT&t and PNC are my favorites of the moment. Can't keep up w suburban ATL or Miami to comment. I assume Tampa is as advertised and haven't been to Oakland or Mets CitiField.
   46. Misirlou doesn't live in the restaurant Posted: September 24, 2018 at 12:00 AM (#5750320)
Can't keep up w suburban ATL or Miami to comment.


Miami is not suburban. When they played at the football field they were, but not now. They aren't actually downtown, but not too far from it. About as far as the Cubs are and you wouldn't call Wrigley suburban.

edit: actually closer
   47. DFA Posted: September 24, 2018 at 12:39 AM (#5750342)
PNC is without a doubt the best ballpark I have ever been fortunate enough to witness a game. I also like Camden Yards and Safeco (though I'm an Oriole fan living in Seattle). Fenway is special, Wrigley and Old Yankee Stadium are overrated, GABP is not memorable in any way. Petco is nice! Dodger Stadium is also pretty cool! Anaheim is a stadium not in a city, making the whole identity issue appropriate. Shea was the pits. I should probably get out more.
   48. Crispix Attacksel Rios Posted: September 24, 2018 at 09:02 AM (#5750410)
I went earlier this year. It was April, and mostly filled with Mets fans.


And that was at a game against the Pirates! (rimshot)
   49. BDC Posted: September 24, 2018 at 09:26 AM (#5750425)
I'll agree that Pittsburgh is the best contemporary park I've been to (Wrigley and Fenway being in a class by themselves; I like them a lot but understand their discomforts for some).

But of the others I've been to, I would put Coors, Kaufmann, Philly, and Cleveland not far behind Pittsburgh. They are all somewhat similar as very pleasant experiences, the view being what sets Pittsburgh apart IMO.

Sox Park in Chicago is different, more cramped, but not bad. New Yankee is too big and too plastic for my tastes, but an interesting place to visit; the big photos of all the championship teams, and the monuments, being well worth seeing. The Trop is a blast, I loved it, but I can see where some visitors would be weirded out. It feels like a huge temporary high-school gym.

If anyone is making it a point to see the Ballpark in Arlington before it closes at the end of next year, let me know! It's a pretty good park too, though you have probably heard about the heat :)
   50. Steve Parris, Je t'aime Posted: September 24, 2018 at 10:08 AM (#5750470)
As a cheap bastard, I really enjoyed going to a Marlins game earlier this year. I was in Miami for a conference in June and went to a Tuesday night game against Arizona. The attendance was as dismal as you'd expect. But we got great seats on the 3B side for $19/each, and someone on the Marlins hit a HR so I got to see that jumping fish go off. It was baseball, so I loved it.
   51. Swoboda is freedom Posted: September 24, 2018 at 10:34 AM (#5750486)
Stadiums in Use
NYY, Citifield (NYM), Fenway, Dodger Stadium, Cleveland Jake, Wrigley, 6

Old
Atlanta, NYY I and II, Shea, Baltimore, Cleveland Memorial, Chicago White Sox, Philadelphia Vet, RFK, Jarry Park, Olympic Stadium 10
   52. dlf Posted: September 24, 2018 at 10:38 AM (#5750489)
I think that "being a fan" and "enjoying going to the games" are different things.


Fair enough. I enjoy going to games without caring enough about who wins to be a "fan," whether I'm going to MiLB games, NCAA ones or, most MLB games I attend.

...

I've been to a lot fewer parks than most of you and more that no longer exist than those that do

Gone:
Jack Murphy
Kingdome (ugh!)
The Met
Fulton
The Ted
RFK
YSII
Shea
Memorial

Still here:
Camden
Fenway
YSIII
Insert corporate banking name here in Philadelphia
The park that began the greatest thread ever
Whatever they are calling The Jake these days

And since they occasionally have a game there still, Hiram Bithorn in PR for a game between the Expos and Angels when the former were in their vagabond days before relocation.
   53. villageidiom Posted: September 24, 2018 at 10:44 AM (#5750498)
In use: BOS BAL TOR CHW CHC SFG
Not in use: NYY MIN
Not in use but that didn't stop 'em: MTL (TOR/BOS exhibition game a couple years ago)
   54. SoSH U at work Posted: September 24, 2018 at 12:14 PM (#5750592)
Insert corporate banking name here in Philadelphia


Citizens Park.

The park that began the greatest thread ever


Mission Field

Whatever they are calling The Jake these days


Jacobs Field


   55. Greg Pope Posted: September 24, 2018 at 01:15 PM (#5750640)
Parks in use: 28
Not in use: 16

I think that's right. I should check again.
   56. SoSH U at work Posted: September 24, 2018 at 01:18 PM (#5750645)
Parks in use: 28


What do you have left?

   57. ERROR---Jolly Old St. Nick Posted: September 24, 2018 at 02:17 PM (#5750713)

In 1956, the New York Giants averaged 8,171 fans per date. In New York City, with Willie Mays in the prime of his career...

Counting of ticket sales was different at that time period, it was based upon actual bodies in the ballpark.... nowadays it's based upon ticket sales... I'm pretty sure that the Marlins have had fewer people in actual attendance than the Giants did that year(on average)

Fair enough, but in 1934, the World Champion Cardinals averaged 4,222 a game, which even considering the Depression was pretty amazing for one of the most colorful teams in history.
   58. Greg Pope Posted: September 24, 2018 at 02:19 PM (#5750715)
What do you have left?

Great Northern Park and the park yet to be named in Cobb County.


I have doubled up on 16. Not tripled any franchises yet. Unfortunately I never made it to Fulton County, so Atlanta won't be my first triple. If they build a new one in Texas, that will be my first opportunity.
   59. ERROR---Jolly Old St. Nick Posted: September 24, 2018 at 02:20 PM (#5750717)
Now of course Andy will be along in a moment to tell us that in 1956 you could get into the Polo Grounds by yelling "Hey, is that Lana Turner over there?" and jumping over the turnstile while the ticket-taker was distracted.

Nah, by 1956 Lana would've been replaced by Brigitte Bardot, who was then the hottest of the fabulous frogettes. Lana would've been way too matronly.
   60. Greg Pope Posted: September 24, 2018 at 02:39 PM (#5750737)
Time for me to do some accounting...

Arizona: Sonoran Grounds
Atlanta: Turner Field
Chicago: Wrigley Field
Cincinnati: Three Rivers Stadium and Riverfront Park
Colorado: Mile High and Coors Field
Los Angeles: Dodger Stadium
Miami: Joe Robbie (?) and the Fish Tank
Milwaukee: County Stadium and Miller Park
New York: Shea Stadium and Willets Point
Philadelphia: Veterans Stadium and Citizens Park
Pittsburgh: Three Rivers Stadium and Allegheny Park
San Diego: Mission Field
San Francisco: China Basin
St. Louis: Busch Stadium and Busch Stadium
Washington: Nationals Park and Olympic Stadium (not sure if this goes here or under its own entry)

Baltimore: Memorial Stadium and Camden Yards
Boston: Fenway Park
Chicago: Comiskey Park and new Comiskey
Cleveland: Jacobs Field
Detroit: Tiger Stadium and Tiger Field
Houston: Astrodome and Astrodome 2000
Kansas City: Kauffman Stadium
Los Angeles: Autry Field
Minnesota: Metrodome
New York: Yankee Stadium and Yankee Stadium
Oakland: Alameda County
Seattle: Cascadia Field
Tampa: Suncoast Dome
Texas: Arlington Stadium and The Ballpark in Arlington
Toronto: Skydome

So it's actually 45 total, with 28 current and 15 defunct. Once I hit Minnesota and Atlanta, I should be complete for a while. Is anyone other than Texas angling for something new?
   61. BDC Posted: September 24, 2018 at 03:11 PM (#5750772)
tripled any franchises


It just fell out so that I was able to do this in Philadelphia, and then Texas will be another, knock wood.

There must be quite a few franchises that have only had two parks in my lifetime, in addition to the Cubs, Red Sox, and the youngest franchises that have only had one (Tampa Bay, Arizona – it is the same stadium in Arizona the whole time, isn't it, they've just kept changing its name).
   62. Traderdave Posted: September 24, 2018 at 03:22 PM (#5750780)
Dead parks:

CIN
MIN
DET
HOU
SEA
MIL


Living parks:

CIN
OAK
SF
LA
CWX
CHC
SEA
COL
PIT
CLE
BAL
SDP (sorta, got an inside & outside tour from a buddy working on it about 80% through construction)


   63. dlf Posted: September 24, 2018 at 03:30 PM (#5750794)
Is anyone other than Texas angling for something new?


Tampa

tripled any franchises


I need to make it down to WFF at some point to complete my trifecta in Atlanta. Unless you count standing under the magnolia tree that was in dead center of the old Ponce de Leon Park at which the Atlanta Black Crackers played in the NeL. The park is long since gone, but the tree remains.
   64. Fernigal McGunnigle Posted: September 24, 2018 at 03:37 PM (#5750800)
In 1984 my mom completed a very tricky triple of the A's -- Shibe Park, Municipal Stadium, Oakland Coliseum. She'll triple the Phillies if she ever decides a trip to Citizens Bank Park becomes necessary.

If you're a bit flexible in your definitions, then I'd bet that someone on this board has quadrupled the Yankees -- YS1, Shea, YS2, YS3.
   65. Greg Pope Posted: September 24, 2018 at 03:43 PM (#5750807)
What should the lifespan of a modern stadium be at this point? For example, Candlestick Park lasted 40 years. The "new" stadium is already approaching 20. Should we expect another round of new stadiums 20 years from now?

The thing is that all of the new stadiums are mallparks. They replaced old parks that were designed to watch a ballgame, and that's about it. The new stadiums are nice to look at and have the amenities. There are some gimmicks in some parks, sure. But does Atlanta's new stadium have anything more than Baltimore's? So what will be the incentive to build new in places like Seattle, Denver, Houston, etc.?
   66. Perry Posted: September 24, 2018 at 03:49 PM (#5750815)
Dead:
Crosley
Riverfront
Busch II
Astrodome
Comiskey
Metrodome

Living:
GABP
Busch III
Cleveland (forget the name)
Detroit (ditto)
White Sox (ditto)
Kauffman
Wrigley
Fenway
Coors
   67. SandyRiver Posted: September 24, 2018 at 04:35 PM (#5750851)
Very limited compared to most:
Defunct:
OYS pre-reno
Polo Grounds (Saw a Mets TP and Maury Will's switch homers in the same twin bill, which also featured a 43 BF CG by Koufax.)
Shea
Balt Mem
Metrodome (Saw Winfield's 3,000th, also 2,999th.)

Active:
Hadlock Field (AA Sea Dogs)
   68. jmurph Posted: September 24, 2018 at 04:47 PM (#5750859)
Defunct:
Yankee Stadium II
Atlanta Fulton County
RFK
Turner Field
Old Busch (was that Busch II? It was 2004)

Active:
Fenway
Miller
Citizens Bank
Camden Yards
Safeco
Target Field
Minute Maid or Enron or whatever the hell
Nationals Park
Wrigley
   69. cardsfanboy Posted: September 24, 2018 at 04:55 PM (#5750867)
If you're a bit flexible in your definitions, then I'd bet that someone on this board has quadrupled the Yankees -- YS1, Shea, YS2, YS3.


What about expo stadium, and the two national stadiums, would that count, or is it about city? (I was wondering if someone could have seen the Senators and the Nationals, but that was also RFK/DC Stadium. )
   70. Fernigal McGunnigle Posted: September 24, 2018 at 05:05 PM (#5750873)
Hadlock Field (AA Sea Dogs)
If we're counting minor league franchises, I've tripled the old single-A Durham Bulls/Myrtle Beach Pelicans: Durham Athletic Park, Durham Bulls Athletic Park, and the place in Myrtle Beach that Google tells me is now called "TicketReturn.com Field at Pelicans Ballpark".
What about expo stadium, and the two national stadiums, would that count, or is it about city? (I was wondering if someone could have seen the Senators and the Nationals, but that was also RFK/DC Stadium. )
I think it definitely counts (I counted my mom seeing the A's in Philly, KC, and Oakland).

Considering that the Expos were at Jarry Park until 1976, there's probably someone out there, at least a sportswriter or two, who's quintipled them -- Jarry, Olympique, Hiram Bithorn, RFK, and Nationals.
   71. A triple short of the cycle Posted: September 24, 2018 at 05:08 PM (#5750875)
TraderDave, surely you have been to Candlestick!?
   72. PreservedFish Posted: September 24, 2018 at 05:10 PM (#5750877)
Ok, current, with approximate number of games attended:

AT&T (10)
Citifield (2)
Dodger Stadium (1)
Fenway (2)
Kauffman (1)
Oakland Coliseum (12)
Camden Yards (1)
Petco (8)
SkyDome (1)
Safeco (1)

Defunct:

Turner Field (1)
Metrodome (1)
Yankee Stadium (15)
Shea (50)
Busch (1)
Veterans (3)
Stade Olympique (4)
   73. ajnrules Posted: September 24, 2018 at 05:17 PM (#5750883)
Marlins Park gives me the vibe of an indoor soccer stadium.

This. I've driven by the ballpark and my thought immediately went to "is this a soccer stadium?" Unfortunately this was in February and no game was going on. I will need to take a trip sometime and visit it along with Tropicana. Maybe I can get that done sometime in this next year.

Active: KCR, BAL, WAS, TEX, HOU, SFG, PIT, CIN, CLE, DET, CHC, LAA, ATL, PHI, NYY, NYM, COL, SEA, MIN, STL
Defunct: RFK, Shea, Turner
   74. A triple short of the cycle Posted: September 24, 2018 at 05:23 PM (#5750885)
I am not going to do well on this... okay here goes.

DEFUNCT
Riverfront Stadium, Cincinnati (1, ~1976)
Yankee Stadium II, N.Y. (~5, 1980s)
Tiger Stadium, Detroit (1, early 1980s)
Candlestick Park, S.F. (~5, 1990s)

FUNCT
Fenway Park, Boston (~10, 1980s)
Petco Park, San Diego (1, ~2010)
AT&T, S.F. (~8, 2000-present)
Coliseum, Oakland (~200, 1993-present)


   75. Eric J can SABER all he wants to Posted: September 24, 2018 at 06:04 PM (#5750909)
Active: Wrigley, Texas, KC (added this year), Milwaukee, Houston

Inactive: Atlanta (Turner), Washington (RFK), St. Louis (most recent defunct Busch)

Not a particularly impressive list, now that I look at it; if I don't make it to another new park before the Rangers open their new stadium, my inactives will catch my actives before I turn 40.
   76. Bote Man Posted: September 24, 2018 at 07:02 PM (#5750950)
What about expo stadium, and the two national stadiums, would that count, or is it about city? (I was wondering if someone could have seen the Senators and the Nationals, but that was also RFK/DC Stadium. )

I believe that a baseball team's legacy lies with the city, so for Andy it would be Griffith Stadium (Senators), D.C./R.F.K. Stadium (Senators/Nationals), and Nationals Park.

I think you could make quite the road trip out of going to all the minor league parks, and have a blast doing it.
   77. Fernigal McGunnigle Posted: September 24, 2018 at 07:22 PM (#5750971)
I think you could make quite the road trip out of going to all the minor league parks, and have a blast doing it.
If I counted right, there are 158 teams from rookie ball up to AAA. In the International League this year there were 151 days from opening day to the end of the season. So barring several two games in one day events, you can't do it in one season. One could maybe make a fun full-season road trip out of seeing all 30 teams in each of AAA, AA, high A, and A ball, providing that the schedules make it possible. Or maybe do one league a year, something like that.

In August 1998 I went to at least one game in every ballpark in North Carolina, which meant games in Charlotte, Zebulon (Carolina), Durham, Kinston, Greensboro, Winston-Salem, Kannapolis, Hickory, Asheville, and Burlington. That was tremendous fun, and I recommend it to anyone who can make the time to do it.
   78. Traderdave Posted: September 24, 2018 at 07:35 PM (#5750976)
TraderDave, surely you have been to Candlestick!?


Didn't move to the Bay Area until '01
   79. BDC Posted: September 24, 2018 at 08:16 PM (#5750992)
quite the road trip out of going to all the minor league parks


Not nearly all, but Joe Price sang the national anthem at more than 100 minor-league parks in one summer.
   80. Jose is an Absurd Force of Nature Posted: September 24, 2018 at 09:09 PM (#5751027)
YS II, YS III, Fenway, Camden, Rogers, Tropicana
Progressive, Target, New Comiskey
Angel, Safeco
Shea, Turner, Citizens Bank
Wrigley, New Busch, PNC, GABP
Dodger, Coors
   81. The Yankee Clapper Posted: September 25, 2018 at 03:24 AM (#5751176)
Considering that the Expos were at Jarry Park until 1976, there's probably someone out there, at least a sportswriter or two, who's quintipled them -- Jarry, Olympique, Hiram Bithorn, RFK, and Nationals.

I usually only go to a couple Nationals games a year, but there's often some folks - not many - sporting Expo apparel. Saw a guy this year in what looked like a brand new ball cap. Do they still sell them, or did this guy buy a lifetime supply? I assume it's the Canadian Embassy crowd, or other neighbors to our north temporarily in DC. # Bitter Clingers.
   82. ERROR---Jolly Old St. Nick Posted: September 25, 2018 at 08:34 AM (#5751192)
Considering that the Expos were at Jarry Park until 1976, there's probably someone out there, at least a sportswriter or two, who's quintipled them -- Jarry, Olympique, Hiram Bithorn, RFK, and Nationals.

Closest I can come is Griffith, RFK for Senators II, Jarry, + RFK and Nats Park for the current team. Jarry Park was by far the best of those five venues for baseball atmosphere,** though RFK for the Redskins in the Allen and Gibbs I era topped it.

** Among the benefits were the occasional home run hit into a distant public swimming pool that was well beyond the RF wall. Willie Stargell did that in a game I attended in 1969.
   83. McCoy Posted: September 25, 2018 at 08:51 AM (#5751193)
I've been to old comiskey and new comiskey. Have a chance to see two Yankee stadiums and two for the Phillies. Had the chance to see two homes for Milwaukee and Atlanta but I passed on both. So I'm guessing two or possibly three will be my most.
   84. Howie Menckel Posted: September 25, 2018 at 09:37 AM (#5751211)
In the 1990s, I saw the NBA Hawks play in I think it was four Atlanta arenas in six years - something like that.
   85. ERROR---Jolly Old St. Nick Posted: September 25, 2018 at 09:41 AM (#5751215)
YS II, YS III, Fenway, Camden, Rogers, Tropicana
Progressive, Target, New Comiskey
Angel, Safeco
Shea, Turner, Citizens Bank
Wrigley, New Busch, PNC, GABP
Dodger, Coors


AL (16): YSI, YSII, Municipal, the Jake, Comiskey I, Oakland Coliseum, Griffith, RFK (for the Senators II), Fenway, Memorial, Camden Yards, Briggs/Tiger, Kingdome, Safeco, Metrodome, County (when the Brewers were in the AL)

NL (12): Dodger, Candlestick, Busch II, Connie Mack, the Vet, Wrigley, Riverfront, Three Rivers, Shea (both the Mets and the Yanks), Jarry, Jack Murphy, Nats Park, plus RFK for the current Nats

Best AL: Briggs/Tiger; Memorial
Worst AL: RFK; Metrodome; Kingdome

Best NL: Wrigley; Jarry
Worst NL: The Vet; Shea
   86. Fernigal McGunnigle Posted: September 25, 2018 at 09:55 AM (#5751229)
I usually only go to a couple Nationals games a year, but there's often some folks - not many - sporting Expo apparel. Saw a guy this year in what looked like a brand new ball cap. Do they still sell them, or did this guy buy a lifetime supply? I assume it's the Canadian Embassy crowd, or other neighbors to our north temporarily in DC. # Bitter Clingers.
I've been a bit saddened every time I've been to Montreal post-2004 by how little space the Expos seem to take up in the local consciousness. This isn't a fair comparison, but go east in the province and you'd think that the Quebec Nordiques were still a living entity. But you have to really hunt to find evidence of the Expos.

I'd guess the Washington Expos people are some combination of ironists, serious baseball nerds, and fetishizers of retro-futurism.
   87. Greg Pope Posted: September 25, 2018 at 11:15 AM (#5751308)
I've been a bit saddened every time I've been to Montreal post-2004 by how little space the Expos seem to take up in the local consciousness. This isn't a fair comparison, but go east in the province and you'd think that the Quebec Nordiques were still a living entity. But you have to really hunt to find evidence of the Expos.

I've got a shot glass for every team I've seen, but not always bought at the park. I didn't get an Expos one, and then they moved. A couple of times over the years I've searched on eBay but never found one. I was in Montreal this summer and walked by a sports-themed souvenir shop. On a whim, I decided to go in and right in the middle was an Expos display and they had a row of Expos shot glasses. So I finally got one.
   88. Bote Man Posted: September 25, 2018 at 01:06 PM (#5751469)
I'd guess the Washington Expos people are some combination of ironists, serious baseball nerds, and fetishizers of retro-futurism.

Most of the ones that I've seen are hangers-on, hoping against hope that Montreal will once again host a baseball team. In one sense I hope they get one, so that we can stop hearing about the exploits of Montreal players who hold no memories for D.C. baseball fans.
   89. Panik on the streets of London (Trout! Trout!) Posted: September 25, 2018 at 03:12 PM (#5751678)
To use the PF model of stadiums with # of games attended at each:

Current:

Citifield (2)
Citizens Bank (2)
Wrigley (3)
Dodger St. (1)
Fenway (1)
Skydome (1)
Oriole Park(3)
Comiskey II (3)
Target Field(1)

Defunct:

Shea (40)
Vet (15)
Yankee II (2)
Olympique (1)



   90. SandyRiver Posted: September 26, 2018 at 08:03 AM (#5752130)
Games seen at each place noted in #67 (excluding the Sea Dogs), with some guesswork due to age:

OYS: About 20 (1957-68)
Polo grounds: 3 (1962-63) plus a 3rd inning rainout, with Casey shaking his fist at the sky as he headed toward the CF clubhouse.
Memorial: About 10 (1964-66, while I was at Hopkins)
Shea: 4, (1964-66) all Mets, plus 2 Jets games in 68, including the one that sent Broadway Joe to SB 3.
Metrodome: 1 (Sept 1993)

My current home is a 5-hour drive from Fenway, and I'm a tightwad, so I root from a distance.
   91. PreservedFish Posted: September 26, 2018 at 08:15 AM (#5752135)
You've seen one ballgame since 1966? When people here talk about mallparks, stadium noise etc, do you even know what they're talking about really?
   92. Slivers of Maranville descends into chaos (SdeB) Posted: September 26, 2018 at 11:20 AM (#5752268)

“Promise of endless free money creates disincentive for team to pursue tradition means of revenue generation.”
'

Not like the cutthroat year of 1950 where (checks) the Reds had attendances of 8,390, 4,783 and 1,719 in their last four games, the Cubs were under 5,000 in two of their last four games, the Best Fans in Baseball were under 5,000 for four of their last six (including three games under 3,000), and the Dodgers were under 10,000 for their last 18 games.
   93. SandyRiver Posted: September 26, 2018 at 12:04 PM (#5752328)
You've seen one ballgame since 1966? When people here talk about mallparks, stadium noise etc, do you even know what they're talking about really?

Since 1968, not that it makes much difference. That year 3-4 of us drove in from NNJ 4-5 times for twi-nighters at the Stadium, including one when the nightcap went 18 (Yanks won) and we got home about 5 AM. My one experience with indoor baseball gave me some insight to the issues, though "Minnesota nice" mitigated against the worst of those things. Place rocked when Winfield hit #3,000, though. (And was pretty empty by the time the Twins won it in the 12th - or 14th, kinda fuzzy without going to BBRef game logs.)

Edit: It was 13 innings, but I had it bracketed. Sept 16 against the A's, who led 2-zip going into the 9th. Puckett led off with a triple* and Winfield drove him in with his 3,000th (nice when a milestone hit is important to the game at hand), and later someone named Scott Slohoviak plated Winfield to tie the game. A's scored 2 in the top of the 13th and MN got 3 for the 5-4 win.

*Had to laugh at the game log's description of Kirby's triple, "Fly Ball to deep CF" - it was actually a low liner about 5 feet to the 2nd baseman's right, that turf-bounced all the way to the wall (or "The Diaper", so-called for the tarp hanging there) in right-center.
   94. McCoy Posted: September 26, 2018 at 12:11 PM (#5752339)
I have been to Miami a few times since the new park and the thing looks like a monstrous eyesore every time I see it. Never been to a game and really if I'm in Miami during the baseball season the last thing I want to do is go to that monstrosity. I dunno, perhaps if there was a hotel and a vibrant little area right next to it I might. For the most part if I'm in South Florida I have little desire to stay in Miami.
   95. Hysterical & Useless Posted: September 26, 2018 at 01:08 PM (#5752398)
Alas, I've been to very few MLB games. Total stadia (in the order 1st visited):

Original Yankee
Shea
Wrigley
Fenway
Cincy Riverfront
Yankee #3

Never traveled much, been to only 2 MLB games in the last 12 or 15 years (both at Newest Yankee). 3 minor league parks. I guess I'm really just an absentee fan.
   96. Bourbon Samurai, what price fettucine? Posted: September 26, 2018 at 07:01 PM (#5752814)
Roughly in order that I enjoyed them:

1. At&T Park
2. Camden Yards
3. Wrigley
4. Tokyodome
5. Fenway
6. Old Yankee Stadium
7. Nats Park
8. Jamsil Stadium (seoul)
9. RFK
10. Target Field
11. Memorial Stadium (baltimore)
12. New Yankee Stadium
13. Shea
14. Comiskey
15. Miller Park (the roof was closed, which I am told make a huge impact
   97. ERROR---Jolly Old St. Nick Posted: September 26, 2018 at 08:25 PM (#5752871)
9. RFK

11. Memorial Stadium (baltimore)


That I can't understand for the life of me, unless you went to Memorial after the team collapsed in the mid-80's. During the Wild Bill Hagy era that was the liveliest stadium I've ever been in.

Of course for comfort and comfort food it wasn't exactly Camden Yards, but Camden Yards never featured this. (Begin at 2:40)

RFK was great for football, but for baseball? YECCCCHHH.
   98. SandyRiver Posted: September 27, 2018 at 09:19 AM (#5753094)
When I was at Memorial, it had two very different personalities (though one could get a cheap-but-decent crabcake between two saltines in both.) In 1964-65 it was quiet and uncrowded - I recall one particularly sparse/silent crowd, when from my upper deck seat I could clearly hear the infield chatter. That all changed in 1966 with Robby-mania, big and noisy crowds, even staying (most of them) through an entire 15-inning game that ended about 1:10 AM with an Orioles comeback win.

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