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Saturday, July 26, 2014

Tigers Display Focus on 2014; acquire Joakim Soria

The Tigers acquired closer Joakim Soria from the Texas Rangers for two highly regarded right-handed pitching prospects: starter Jake Thompson and reliever Corey Knebel.

You may believe Thompson and Knebel represent a slight overpay for Soria’s services through the end of 2015. A number of executives with other major-league teams would agree. But if you consider the context, you will see the Tigers made an excellent trade, at the right time, in a manner that harmonizes completely with the organizational mandate to win the World Series this year.
How could you find fault with that?

Didn’t see this trade posted here-Soria will serve as a setup man (and insurance) for Joe Nathan.

My name is Votto, and I love to get blotto Posted: July 26, 2014 at 10:02 PM | 10 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
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   1. BDC Posted: July 27, 2014 at 11:22 AM (#4758369)
I'm inclined to agree, but then I think of getting Koji Uehara for Chris Davis, a move that displayed some focus on 2011 for the Rangers and has ended up hurting them for the next three years.

Trades like this have a pretty volatile range of outcomes, and Uehara/Davis was one of the most volatile in terms of what it brought the two teams involved. Most likely outcome is that Soria is just OK and the prospects are meh. Another is that Soria turns into Uehara v.2013 and the Tigers win the Series. Another is that Soria is putrid or injured or both for the next year and a half. I agree with the article's points, but I think it's a spin of the wheel.
   2. Walks Clog Up the Bases Posted: July 27, 2014 at 12:54 PM (#4758413)
It's strange to think that the Tigers have been very good to excellent for nearly a decade and they've not had one season where you'd call their anointed closer "lights out." Todd Jones, Fernando Rodney, Jose Valverde, etc. They've racked up a lot of saves, in part because their teams gave them a lot of chances to do so. But they had oodles of blown saves, not to mention the countless nail-biting roller coaster rides that eventually ended with the lock down of the save.

Joe Nathan was sort of supposed to be the guy that ended that trend, but best laid plans and all that. Some may call this an overpay, but the Tigers are absolutely in "win now" mode and I just couldn't see them running the table with Joe Nathan as their ninth-inning guy. He's been better compared to April, but I can't see the current arrangement lasting a lot longer. If Soria takes the closer spot, I guess that moves Nathan to middle-relief, right? Joba has been surprisingly effective as the team's current set-up guy, so it'd be tough to see Nathan take his spot.
   3. PASTE does not get put on waivers in August Posted: July 27, 2014 at 12:56 PM (#4758414)
Whenever I see that a closer entered the 9th with a 3 run lead, allowed 2 runs and got the save, I still think to myself, "Ah! A Valverde." I think that goes back to his days with the Astros.
   4. Best Regards, President of Comfort, Esq. Posted: July 27, 2014 at 02:03 PM (#4758451)
I'm inclined to agree, but then I think of getting Koji Uehara for Chris Davis, a move that displayed some focus on 2011 for the Rangers and has ended up hurting them for the next three years.


If it makes you feel better, Davis has a 96 OPS+ this year.
   5. Cooper Nielson Posted: July 28, 2014 at 06:54 AM (#4758851)
It's strange to think that the Tigers have been very good to excellent for nearly a decade and they've not had one season where you'd call their anointed closer "lights out."

Jose Valverde over his Tiger career was certainly not that guy, but Jose Valverde in one season -- 2011 -- might have been that guy: 49 saves, 0 blown saves, 2.24 ERA (masking a 3.55 FIP) and 1.189 WHIP, after a pretty decent 2010. Those aren't exactly dominant numbers (too many walks), but that was the one year when Tiger fans actually felt pretty confident going into the 9th inning.
   6. BDC Posted: July 28, 2014 at 09:36 AM (#4758884)
If it makes you feel better, Davis has a 96 OPS+ this year

Meanwhile Rangers 1B have an OPS+ of 29 or something this year :)
   7. Every Inge Counts Posted: July 28, 2014 at 09:51 AM (#4758894)
Seems like a lot to give up, but the Tigers under Dombroski have been pretty good at who to give up in terms of pitching talent. The best guy they may have given up was Jair Jurrjens.
   8. The Good Face Posted: July 28, 2014 at 10:13 AM (#4758908)
If it makes you feel better, Davis has a 96 OPS+ this year

Meanwhile Rangers 1B have an OPS+ of 29 or something this year :)


When you're starting J.P. Arencebia at 1B...

Anyway, having Davis in 2012 & 2013 would have been pretty nice considering how things worked out.
   9. Most doorknobs are on the right side of the doors Posted: July 28, 2014 at 10:38 AM (#4758921)
The best guy they may have given up was Jair Jurrjens.


Doug Fister? Or was he too established?
   10. Khrushin it bro Posted: July 28, 2014 at 04:22 PM (#4759258)
Anyway, having Davis in 2012 & 2013 would have been pretty nice considering how things worked out.


Plus they could have traded Kinsler (or Profar) for another SP or something good instead of Fielder.

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