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Friday, October 12, 2012

Tigers ride golden arm of Justin Verlander into second straight ALCS

Who better than against the A’s to bring your A-game?

Riding Justin Verlander’s talent, determination and golden arm to a 6-0 victory Thursday night, the Tigers finally got past a spunky Oakland team to win their American League Division Series in five games.

What it came down to was that the Tigers scored more runs than in any previous game of the series.

But, more than that, they got an incredibly well-pitched game from their ace — who paid a glorious price for it when he entered the clubhouse after his on-field interviews and quickly disappeared under a cascade of sparkling wine being poured over him.

“It was awesome and horrible at the same time.” Verlander said of the shower. “All I wanted to do was look up and celebrate with my teammates, but I couldn’t see a thing.

“But it was an experience I’ll never forget.”

Thanks to KOOLS.

Repoz Posted: October 12, 2012 at 06:42 AM | 46 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
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   1. Crosseyed and Painless Posted: October 12, 2012 at 08:40 AM (#4265775)
Yeah, buddy!
   2. Shooty Survived the Shutdown of '14! Posted: October 12, 2012 at 08:44 AM (#4265782)
Go get 'em Tigers. With Verlander, Fister and the often brilliant Scherzer, there's no reason Detroit can't keep rolling. The Yankees or Orioles certainly shouldn't frighten them.
   3. Greg Pope thinks the Cubs are reeking havoc Posted: October 12, 2012 at 08:52 AM (#4265794)
the often brilliant Scherzer

After May 1, Scherzer went 15-4 with a 3.14 ERA. Did he figure something out?
   4. Bourbon Samurai Posted: October 12, 2012 at 08:54 AM (#4265796)
The Tigers frustrate me because they have such wonderful stars and they seem like they should be a great team, but they always manage to fill out their roster with such schlock. I mean, Delmon Young? ugh
   5. Fernigal McGunnigle has become a merry hat Posted: October 12, 2012 at 09:13 AM (#4265814)
I mean, Delmon Young? ugh


Not to change the subject, but Young strikes me as the sort of guy who might figure a little bit out in his 27-28 years and add maybe 30 points of BA. That would be enough to keep him in the league but not enough to make him at all good. I could see him as the first player in MLB history to get 2000 hits (he's almost halfway there) without providing any actual value to his teams. (EDIT: Well, Doc Cramer beat him to it.) Sort of a very poor man's Garret Anderson.

   6. AROM Posted: October 12, 2012 at 09:29 AM (#4265831)
Go the distance.

Nice job, Justin.
   7. fra paolo Posted: October 12, 2012 at 09:30 AM (#4265832)
The thing that gets me about the Tigers is that Jim Leyland pencilled Delmon Young's name in batting 5th in 130 games this season. Why-oh-why-oh-why?

Young 268/293/413 for an 86 OPS+ when batting 5th

All AL 5th hitters 261/318/441 for a 100 OPS+

And the answer is that, really, Leyland had no better choice.

Other Tiger hitters who regularly batted behind Young:

Avila 243/352/384 (but would be an LH behind LH Prince)
Dirks 322/370/487 (ditto, and only when healthy)
Peralta 239/305/384 (don't think that's an improvement)
Boesch 240/286/372 (lefty again, and worse)
Infante 257/283/385 (don't think that's an improvement)
Santiago 206/283/272 (starting 2b for 45 games)

If Victor Martinez comes back and plays to his career levels (303/370/469), that's going to be a distinct improvement.
   8. RMc is a fine piece of cheese Posted: October 12, 2012 at 09:39 AM (#4265839)
A friend of mine is a fanatical Yankees fan; he says Detroit is going to the World Series.
   9. Shooty Survived the Shutdown of '14! Posted: October 12, 2012 at 09:44 AM (#4265845)
A friend of mine is a fanatical Yankees fan; he says Detroit is going to the World Series.

Hey, you're not even supposed to know what happened last night!
   10. Jose Can Still Seabiscuit Posted: October 12, 2012 at 09:47 AM (#4265847)
A friend of mine is a fanatical Yankees fan; he says Detroit is going to the World Series.


Neither the Yankees nor Orioles have impressed me this week. The number of just wretched at bats by members of both teams has been shocking. I said in the chatter last night that Oakland/Detroit felt like an exciting pitchers' duel while New York/Baltimore was just a snoozefest. To pick two examples; A-Rod's at bat in the 8th was awful. He was twitchy and desperate and it looked like he could have had ten strikes and not hit one. On the other hand there was a Chris Davis at bat where he saw three straight sliders that bounced and swung at them all. If the scoreboard had flashed "Slider in the dirt coming up, don't swing Chris!" I don't think he would have been able to stop himself. The pitches weren't good or enticing, they were just spiked into the ground. It's been awful baseball.

Both teams are better than this. You don't win 90something games without being awfully good but so far they've just looked miserable.
   11. JJ1986 Posted: October 12, 2012 at 09:50 AM (#4265848)
Davis, Jones, Thome, A-Rod, Swisher and Granderson all look like they just want to get out of the batter's box and back to the bench.
   12. Tom Nawrocki Posted: October 12, 2012 at 10:01 AM (#4265861)
Every run scored in the Orioles-Yankees series feels like passing a kidney stone. I was watching the Orioles "hit" in the late innings last night, and I thought there was no way this offense would ever score again.
   13. Joey B. has reignited his October #Natitude Posted: October 12, 2012 at 10:02 AM (#4265865)
After May 1, Scherzer went 15-4 with a 3.14 ERA. Did he figure something out?

Little factoid that surprised the heck out of me: Scherzer this season had the highest K/9 among qualifying pitchers since Kerry Wood in '03.
   14. Bourbon Samurai Posted: October 12, 2012 at 10:09 AM (#4265877)
The orioles don't win through good at bats they win through walrus magic and the power of buck showalters glares.

The Yankees look like #### though
   15. chemdoc Posted: October 12, 2012 at 10:24 AM (#4265905)
This was obviously the wrong time for the A's to give up chewing tobacco.
   16. Jorge Luis Bourjos (Walewander) Posted: October 12, 2012 at 10:30 AM (#4265916)

What's even more amazing about Scherzer's season is that he did while enduring the suicide of his brother in June.
   17. jmurph Posted: October 12, 2012 at 10:42 AM (#4265927)
I never would have expected Curtis Granderson to become basically the least interesting offensive player in baseball, non Adam Dunn division. He doesn't even steal anymore!
   18. Greg Pope thinks the Cubs are reeking havoc Posted: October 12, 2012 at 10:57 AM (#4265944)
Little factoid that surprised the heck out of me: Scherzer this season had the highest K/9 among qualifying pitchers since Kerry Wood in '03.


Honestly, the Tigers could be on the Johnson/Schilling path to a title. Verlander and post-April Scherzer might both be top 5 AL pitchers.
   19. Crosseyed and Painless Posted: October 12, 2012 at 11:06 AM (#4265954)
Honestly, the Tigers could be on the Johnson/Schilling path to a title. Verlander and post-April Scherzer might both be top 5 AL pitchers.


I know nothing about pitching injuries, but I think Max isn't right at this point. He's never had a robo-arm like Verlander, but right now he seems to be struggling (relatively speaking) after 80 pitches or so.

Of course, Fister/Sanchez isn't a bad 3/4.
   20. Danny Posted: October 12, 2012 at 11:08 AM (#4265962)
Congrats to the Tigers and their fans. Each of the SP on both teams pitched pretty well, but Verlander was in a league of his own. And I'm not sure whether Leyland saw a flaw with Parker or Norris, but the Tigers' suddenly aggressive baserunning had the A's on their heels all night.
   21. RMc is a fine piece of cheese Posted: October 12, 2012 at 11:10 AM (#4265965)
A friend of mine is a fanatical Yankees fan; he says Detroit is going to the World Series.

Hey, you're not even supposed to know what happened last night!


I said I wasn't going to watch or tape it, and I didn't. Wish I had now, obviously.

The Yankees are a good enough team that they can win a playoff series despite not playing well. (So are the Tigers, apparently.)

I'll take the Yankees in 6 over the Tigers, or Detroit in 7 over Baltimore.
The Nats win tonight, then take SF in seven.
World Series: Yanks over Nats in 6, or Detroit over Washington in 7.
   22. esseff Posted: October 12, 2012 at 11:12 AM (#4265968)
For the A's, the Crisp drop was everything. But it also emphasizes how small the margin of error is, if you have to virtually concede two games to Verlander in a best-of-five.
   23. I Fought Vance Law and Vance Law Won Posted: October 12, 2012 at 11:14 AM (#4265970)
After May 1, Scherzer went 15-4 with a 3.14 ERA. Did he figure something out?


The coaches did at the time claim to have found and corrected a flaw in his delivery around then.
   24. Bitter Mouse Posted: October 12, 2012 at 12:20 PM (#4266058)
As a Twins fan I don't begrudge the Tigers success, but I admit seeing Delmon in someone else's uniform makes me happy.
   25. JL Posted: October 12, 2012 at 12:31 PM (#4266072)
Congrats to the Tigers and their fans. Each of the SP on both teams pitched pretty well, but Verlander was in a league of his own. And I'm not sure whether Leyland saw a flaw with Parker or Norris, but the Tigers' suddenly aggressive baserunning had the A's on their heels all night.

He must have. Not sure if it was Norris or the combination, but they ran (correctly as it turned out) with little fear. Certainly was a plus offensively.
   26. dr. scott Posted: October 12, 2012 at 12:33 PM (#4266074)
I was in the second deck so... but norris looked awful behind the plate. Im thinking the Suzuki trade really was a bad trade for this year. Zuk has much better defensive skills, and hits just as bad.

Parker was crusing exept for Norris's inability to block balls, or throw out runners. He had nearly as many strikouts and far fewer pitches than verlander after 5. In the end, it probably didnt matter, as noone could score on Verlander.

At the end of the game, as Detroit was celebrating the crowd went wild and started chanting Lets Go Oakland for 3-5 minutes and all the players came out and waved and threw batting gloves into the stands... was any of this evident on TV?
   27. fra paolo Posted: October 12, 2012 at 12:46 PM (#4266090)
was any of this evident on TV?

It was clear the crowd was celebrating the players and their season, and that the A's players came out to acknowledge the applause, but I didn't see the players throwing souvenirs as a reward. They showed a couple of shots of the crowd, and of the whole field with the Tigers' players doing their thing in one part, and the A's players standing outside their dugout.

It really was a remarkable interaction between fans and their team.
   28. Danny Posted: October 12, 2012 at 12:47 PM (#4266092)
At the end of the game, as Detroit was celebrating the crowd went wild and started chanting Lets Go Oakland for 3-5 minutes and all the players came out and waved and threw batting gloves into the stands... was any of this evident on TV?

Yeah, they showed it on TNT. I thought it was pretty awesome--of both the A's and the crowd--but it was a bit surreal with the Tigers celebrating on the field in the background.
   29. The Id of SugarBear Blanks Posted: October 12, 2012 at 12:50 PM (#4266093)
It really was a remarkable interaction between fans and their team.

It helps the atmosphere greatly when there are real fans in the seats, as opposed to mallpark dilettantes and the status-anxious.
   30. The Chronicles of Reddick Posted: October 12, 2012 at 12:51 PM (#4266100)
It would be nice to celebrate a Game #5 win at home some day. Last time I remember the A's winning a game 5 in Oakland was against the Jays in 1992. That was the game Dave Stewart guaranteed a win.
   31. McCoy Posted: October 12, 2012 at 12:52 PM (#4266101)
Are there such things in the playoffs?
   32. Ivan Grushenko of Hong Kong Posted: October 12, 2012 at 01:08 PM (#4266128)
Congratulations to the Tigers and their fans!

Still a fantastic season for the A's....it was a lot more fun than I thought it would be in March. Losing to Justin Verlander isn't anything to be ashamed of. We just have to tip our cap.
   33. Jorge Luis Bourjos (Walewander) Posted: October 12, 2012 at 01:30 PM (#4266162)

Condolences to all the A's fans here. You guys are great and your team had a phenomenal year. The crowds at the Coliseum were incredible too.
   34. Flynn Posted: October 12, 2012 at 01:39 PM (#4266178)
I hope this year leads to a revival of interest in the A's. it feels like a lot of people in the Bay Area got caught up in the ride.
   35. The Id of SugarBear Blanks Posted: October 12, 2012 at 01:41 PM (#4266183)
Yeah ... cool team, cool show. Well played, 2012 A's.
   36. Bug Selig Posted: October 12, 2012 at 01:43 PM (#4266187)
Now Grant Balfour can refuse to warm up every day.

   37. I Helped Patrick McGoohan Escape Posted: October 12, 2012 at 01:50 PM (#4266202)
Yeah, they showed it on TNT. I thought it was pretty awesome--of both the A's and the crowd--but it was a bit surreal with the Tigers celebrating on the field in the background.


It was pretty surreal from the stands too, but nonetheless awesome. You had a little enclave made up of the Tigers and some camera guys doing their thing while 30k+ fans were cheering their brains out for the A's. The team-wide curtain call was one the best things I've seen at the ballpark. And there must have been almost as many cameramen capturing that moment as there were on the Tigers.

I hope this year leads to a revival of interest in the A's. it feels like a lot of people in the Bay Area got caught up in the ride.


I think (perhaps a bit optimistically) that it does. There are a lot of latent A's fans in the Bay, who have become a bit disillusioned over the past few years. Hopefully the excitement of this team gets them back into the swing of things.
   38. JL Posted: October 12, 2012 at 02:14 PM (#4266247)
I think (perhaps a bit optimistically) that it does. There are a lot of latent A's fans in the Bay, who have become a bit disillusioned over the past few years. Hopefully the excitement of this team gets them back into the swing of things.

It seems like the youth of this team is doubly valuable for that. As an outsider, my perception of the A's has been them trading or letting go older players. Seeing the youth on the team and recognizing that they will be around for a bit, it seems like it would be easier to get behind this group of players.
   39. Fred Lynn Nolan Ryan Sweeney Agonistes Posted: October 12, 2012 at 02:27 PM (#4266269)
It seems like the youth of this team is doubly valuable for that. As an outsider, my perception of the A's has been them trading or letting go older players. Seeing the youth on the team and recognizing that they will be around for a bit, it seems like it would be easier to get behind this group of players.

At 32, Coco Crisp was the oldest active regular at the end of the season.
The A's probably shouldn't get rid of Crisp, because if they do, Amazing GF will track down Billy Beane, rip off his arms, and beat him to death with them.
   40. jack the seal clubber (on the sidelines of life) Posted: October 12, 2012 at 03:40 PM (#4266386)
Congratulations to all the A's people on the thread. It was a big year for them.
   41. Dr. Vaux Posted: October 12, 2012 at 03:47 PM (#4266395)
Indeed, baseball is better when the A's are good. Let's hope this is the start of an A's revival.
   42. Roger McDowell spit on me! Posted: October 12, 2012 at 03:59 PM (#4266403)
It's nice to hopefully have an opportunity to keep a team together for a change in Oakland. There are real faces and personalities associated with the club now. Keep them here (as long as it makes sense baseball-wise) and I think the fans will show up.
   43. Willie Mayspedester Posted: October 12, 2012 at 04:17 PM (#4266420)
Congrats Tigers fans. I enjoyed the A's a lot this year but Verlander was too good in this series.

Oh and good luck with that clown closer for the rest of the playoffs.
   44. zachtoma Posted: October 12, 2012 at 04:50 PM (#4266455)
Also if they let go of Crisp we wouldn't get shots of fans doing the Bernie when he comes up, that's 2-3 WAR right there.
   45. Ivan Grushenko of Hong Kong Posted: October 12, 2012 at 04:53 PM (#4266461)
I doubt Coco goes anywhere in the offseason. He could be traded midseason 2013 if the team isn't contending though. I don't really want an OF with Smith/Taylor/Gomes and Cespedes in LF and CF with a flyballing staff.
   46. Willie Mayspedester Posted: October 12, 2012 at 05:01 PM (#4266475)
I doubt Coco goes anywhere in the offseason. He could be traded midseason 2013 if the team isn't contending though. I don't really want an OF with Smith/Taylor/Gomes and Cespedes in LF and CF with a flyballing staff.


Where did Reddick go? Also on the subject of Reddick will he have an OBP > .300 next year? I am hoping the league didn't figure him out.

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