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1. Fernigal McGunnigle has become a merry hat Posted: May 11, 2012 at 05:29 PM (#4129585)Then the next entry bashes Fenway:
This is all 100% true of Wrigley as well. I really like both of them and wouldn't include either on this list, but if I were to bash one on amenities and I'd have to bash the other one as well.
The article goes on to demonstrate that there are a lot of lousy NFL stadiums, which is exactly what fans of the NFL deserve.
EDIT: A better list would include a lot of crappy college stadiums as well.
Wrigley's seats are not really all that cramped - as far as I can tell, they're completely standard stadium seats.
I had also been under the impression that the Fenway renovations of the last few years took care of the "crumbling structure" but I haven't been there, so I don't know.
And if we're making an all-sports list of worst stadiums, then every football stadium is worse than the worst baseball stadium. Start with the monstrosity in Dallas where you can pay $100 for a standing room ticket in an area with no view of the game whatsoever.
One of them has already been demolished, right?
So, Baseball Gods, you know what to do.
I discovered the same policy the first time I went to a Sox game, and I could hardly believe my ears. The writer isn't even exagerrating about the "second-class citizen" thing - I asked an usher what the deal was, and he said that the policy was there to prevent people with tickets in the cheap seats from running onto the field. I'm not really one to take general policies personally but I have to admit that I felt pretty insulted when I heard that - it really is a \"#### you, proles" kind of move.
But that's how it goes in Reinsdorfland, I guess. Stay classy, Jerry.
No, the Astrodome still stands, as a momument to Texan asshattery.
That's the first time I've seen someone complain that a stadium has too much parking.
I bet you're wrong.
field personnel 9-10 years ago.
It is. The policy still annoys considerably. You used to be able to walk around the entire ballpark regardless of where you're seats are. Now? No.
I don't doubt this, but that being the case, hire some more security instead of p#ssing all over your fans, for crying out loud.
I'm a Syracuse graduate (class of 1990) and I don't entirely disagree. Many Orange fans still prefer Manley Field House.
I wasn't defending the policy, merely giving it context. The policy itself is run-of-the-mill, poorly targeted kneejerkery that's fairly common for organizations in this day and age instead of something more insidious.
I had to Wikipedia it for the date, and I can't believe the Tom Gamboa incident was 10 years ago. Wow.
Seriously, the place is crumbling to the point ASU says in another 10 years SDS will have to be condemned. The TVs in the luxury suites are battered CRTs; the scoreboard frequently fails to work and gets graphics wrong (No, we played UC Davis last week; the team we play tonight is Mizzou.).
Whenever I'm there, I look around and think, "This #### don't fly in the SEC."
I won't have that. First of all, it's in Arlington :)
Second, it's like $29.95 for the standing room, and there is a view, albeit an end-zone view.
$100 at Cowboys Stadium will get you an upper-deck seat at around the 30-yard-line. The stadium is lots of fun, IMO, given of course that one likes football to begin with. The cheerleaders and the nonsense are non-stop; you have to be into kitsch to have fun there, and fortunately I am.
"Worst stadium" reminds me of what Woody Allen said about sex (or pizza?): even when it's bad it's still pretty good. I mean, these are venues where sports is taking place. How bad can this actually get?
I'd be careful with my money on that one.
The NFL wants shiny new facilities, and an assemblyman signing for the lion's share of the invoice, wherever they have teams. They use the Super Bowl as leverage to get new facilities built and to reward cities that pony up the appropriate amount of cash. They've abandoned their traditional warm-weather preference in order to give games to Detroit, Indy, and NY largely for that reason. The only exception to that trend is New Orleans, which became a special case after Katrina.
If the NFL gives another Super Bowl to San Diego, not only do they lose the ability to give that "reward" to a city that agreed to build/renovate them a new stadium, but they effectively sanction San Diego's "refusal" to do so by giving that city the NFL's ultimate prize despite SD's refusal to build a new facility. I'd think it's pretty unlikely that SD gets another Super Bowl until they build a new football stadium.
The NFL has (I believe) made statements consistent with the author's quote specifically. That doesn't mean a whole lot of course. But if the only thing SD has to offer is their city, NFL execs may travel their on vacation, they may hold league meetings there, but the odds of SD getting a Super Bowl are pretty low I would think. That's not to say the city should be worried, but I think the author's quote is probably true.
Yeah, it's been over a hundred years since the last time multiple fans were killed by a baseball stadium during a game.
Doesn't this have something to do with the fact that you're watching basketball in a football stadium?
There's really nothing worse than watching basketball in a football stadium. Which is why attending NCAA tournament games is such a bummer because everything from the Sweet 16 on is guaranteed to be played in the worst possible environment for basketball.
Yep. I was the offical scorer for several NCAA regionals that were played at the Kingdome, and the atmosphere there was nothing like what it would had been in a purpose-built basketball arena.
"The NFL wants shiny new facilities, and an assemblyman signing for the lion's share of the invoice, wherever they have teams. They use the Super Bowl as leverage to get new facilities built and to reward cities that pony up the appropriate amount of cash. They've abandoned their traditional warm-weather preference in order to give games to Detroit, Indy, and NY largely for that reason."
mostly true.
but the NJ Giants/Jets $1.6B stadium construction costs were actually paid by the teams.
that bid had another problematic finalist in Miami, and Tampa - and well, they've been there a lot.
Plus Broadway is a tempting inducement for Super Bowl corporate week.
I'm no SEC honk, but all the ones I've been to have been satisfactory to outstanding. (Haven't been to Starkville yet). Even Vandy's isn't bad. A&M (my favorite total experience), UGA, UF are all tremendous. Bama and Tenn are tremendous experiences, even if some of the comforts and concourses are lacking. A lot of the giants are really, really old, so they've had to do a lot of adapting, a la Fenway. Ga Tech is amongst the oldest, but really a very cool stadium with a lot of great sight lines.
Yeah, the Carrier Dome was bad news, though it has been nearly 30 years since I've been. I've been to Sun Devil a few times for the Fiesta Bowl since 1990 and it has gotten noticeably worse.
*I know Yale isn't 'major' college football anymore, but it is a bucket list type stadium, and the H at Y game I attended was really a big let down. I guess that's what I get for going to Nebraska games all my life and other high level places.
The only baseball stadiums I put into a truly bad category are the Kingdome, Metrodome and Joe Robbie (of the 30 or so I've been to old and new). With that said, Wrigley's gotta get going on fixing up the place, otherwise its sliding into this category.
That and the threat of LA. I have to wonder if part of the reason there's been not real push from the NFL to get a team in a nation's second largest metro area has to do with strong arming all the other NFL cities (the ones smaller than LA, at least) into footing the bill on a new park.
You do know those three stadiums are no longer used by MLB don't you?
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