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Sunday, March 14, 2010

T.J. Simers: Getting to know the boys of spring

As a general rule, athletes probably should be seen displaying their God-given talents, and not heard. Like so many other athletes, Broxton will just disappear someday, maybe some recalling how hard he threw or a game he saved.

But then there’s someone like Hunter, and almost anyone who gets the chance to meet him is better off for it.

He’s more than baseball, he’s inspirational and community-minded with so many examples off the field where he has already left his mark.

Hunter is more gold than Gold Glove. He has a lifetime of experiences to offer, is willing to do so and excludes no one.

Now I’ve read what he was quoted as saying in USA Today, disappointed only that he said he had nothing to apologize for, but then indicated he had used the wrong word. It was a contradictory message.

He says now he’s going to watch what he says to reporters, but if he said nothing wrong, it’s another contradictory message.

There’s probably more there between the spoken word and how it was presented, but that’s the problem when it comes to discussing race — there can be no discussion.

When the most important element in such a discussion is the emphasis placed on being politically correct, then it becomes more about nailing someone for saying something wrong or outrageous than an exchange of ideas or opinions.

If Hunter says something wrong, and you can count on it because he doesn’t always agree with Page 2, it should only invite a good argument or further discussion.

Anything more than that does a great disservice to someone who has already spent his fair share of time in the service of others. I’d hate it if he just became another athlete.

Tripon Posted: March 14, 2010 at 02:13 PM | 13 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
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   1. I Am Not a Number Posted: March 14, 2010 at 03:19 PM (#3478896)
While it seems pointless to criticize a Simers piece -- it's not like he has a track record of competence -- the decision to denigrate Broxton is weak. Hunter may be a racist, but he's a community-minded racist, which is better than being a non-community-minded person like Broxton. Is that really the argument?
   2. Tripon Posted: March 14, 2010 at 03:32 PM (#3478904)
What? No! I cut off some of what Simers talked about Broxton in order to save space, but the point about Broxton and other athletes like him is that the only thing memorable about them is their ability to play the game. After that's gone, they fade away to retirement and the only things you remember about them is some of the game highlights of their career.

And its not as if Hunter is a 'community-minded racist', its the fact that he felt passionate and comfortable enough to voice such opinions out loud that Simers finds refreshing. He's worried that the current controversy of what he said will force Hunter to shut up, and that's what Simers is worried about. A guy who he thinks can be more than just a 'game highlight' becoming just another athlete that says cliches to not have to speak to the media about what he really thinks.
   3. Leroy Kincaid Posted: March 14, 2010 at 03:50 PM (#3478913)
I'll always remember Joe DiMaggio for the Bowery and as Mr. Coffee.
   4. I Am Not a Number Posted: March 14, 2010 at 05:00 PM (#3478950)
Is there something about Broxton that merits him being referred to specifically? It seems to me that Simers could have made his case without naming specific counter-examples. It just seems odd to pick on one player when any number could have fit the role, unless there is something specific about Broxton that warrants mention.
   5. Obi One Kenobi Nil Posted: March 14, 2010 at 06:11 PM (#3478969)
That's the point. He's saying there is nothing memorable about Broxton which deserves a mention, he's "just another athlete". He's not denigrating or having a go at him.
   6. robinred Posted: March 14, 2010 at 06:13 PM (#3478970)
Hunter may be a racist, but he's a community-minded racist, which is better than being a non-community-minded person like Broxton. Is that really the argument?


No. You underastand neither Hunter's statements nor Simers' piece.
   7. robinred Posted: March 14, 2010 at 06:31 PM (#3478975)
That should be "understand" and if you are calling Hunter a "racist" based on his quotes, it holds. If not, then that's different.
   8. Infinite Yost (Voxter) Posted: March 14, 2010 at 07:41 PM (#3478996)
I don't think (1) was calling Hunter a racist, so much as he was positing that as Simers' contention.
   9. Perros Posted: March 14, 2010 at 08:27 PM (#3479019)
Actions speak louder than words. Simers makes his living with words, poorly in the opinion of many, but he has always used his privileged position to help others. Everybody is wrong as often or not, the outgoing and outspoken no more or less, we just know what they think and where they stand. And both Simers and Hunter take a stand for those less privileged than themselves. Good men, both.
   10. Bring Me the Head of Alfredo Griffin (Vlad) Posted: March 14, 2010 at 08:51 PM (#3479030)
Everybody is wrong as often or not...


That's an interesting position.
   11. Perros Posted: March 14, 2010 at 09:40 PM (#3479048)
More specifically, our verbalizations regarding reality are as often mistaken. I do think words are important, I struggle to make mine match my perceptions, even if my perceptions are skewed. And being true to your word, doing what you say, is incredibly important in gaining and maintaining trust.

But ultimately, the actions you take in the world greatly outweigh the words you speak or write.

Considering how much I value words, and how often my actions fall short of my heart's intent, I'm out on a limb here.
   12. zack Posted: March 15, 2010 at 02:12 PM (#3479269)
If Hunter says something wrong, and you can count on it because he doesn’t always agree with Page 2,...


I love what is implied in this.
   13. SoSH U at work Posted: March 15, 2010 at 02:18 PM (#3479270)
That's an interesting position.


Ray endorses the idea, with one notable exception.

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