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Friday, June 05, 2009

Tobin: The Globe agrees: Red Sock is not cool

Or why Rance Mullinix can’t get a blessed thing right!

The story so far: Remy fill-in Rance Mulliniks talked on-air about what Jason Bay has done “since he became a Red Sox. Excuse me, Red Sock.” I mused on what exactly the singular form of Red Sox should be. John Tomase, Red Sox reporter for the Boston Herald, confirmed that the policy of their paper says the singular form is Red Sox, but that they usually write around it. Now I’ve gotten answer from within the Boston Globe, as well, if not directly from the sports desk. A friend of mine there who is not Dan Shaughnessy reports:

  I talked to a copyeditor, and apparently the Globe never says “Red Sock” to refer to a player — if you absolutely must use the singular, it’s Red Sox, but whenever possible we dance around it with “one of the Red Sox,” or “Red Sox player,” etc. I tried a Nexis search for “red sock” in the Globe, and in the past six years the term “red sock” has been used almost exclusively when the writer is talking about the article of clothing, a literal red sock (about half the time, it’s Schilling’s famous one in 2004).

  The only two recent-ish uses of Red Sock to describe a person were also, coincidentally, about Schilling — once he was quoted called himself a Red Sock, and once Alex Beam used it in a column:  “You might say of newly acquired Boston Red Sock Curt ‘The Hope’ Schilling…”

Repoz Posted: June 05, 2009 at 07:56 PM | 16 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
  Tags: announcers, media, red sox, television

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   1. winnipegwhip Posted: June 05, 2009 at 08:13 PM (#3207936)
I prefer the term "Used Tampon" when referring to Boston American League Players.
   2. PASTE is not impressed by Albert Pujols (Zeth) Posted: June 05, 2009 at 08:26 PM (#3207957)
Red Sok.
   3. Gamingboy Posted: June 05, 2009 at 08:31 PM (#3207966)
It's weird, but to me calling somebody a White Sock or Red Sock outloud isn't wrong, but writing it is.
   4. SoSHially Unacceptable Posted: June 05, 2009 at 08:33 PM (#3207968)
It's weird, but to me calling somebody a White Sock or Red Sock outloud isn't wrong, but writing it is.


I agree with this.
   5. ?Donde esta Dagoberto Campaneris? Posted: June 05, 2009 at 08:36 PM (#3207971)
Red SokC. In honor of the Captain and his dignified uniform.

3 is right though- it sounds OK, but "Red Sock" looks awful in print.
   6. Jose Can You Seabiscuit Posted: June 05, 2009 at 08:44 PM (#3207979)
It looks weird and the workarounds (e.g. You might say of newly acquired Boston Red Sox' pitcher Curt ‘The Hope’ Schilling) are so easy that it's not worthe getting upset about. I'm with the above that verbally it is fine. In fact, in the example of Mulliniks' statement I think "Red Sock" as spoken works better than "Red Sox" would.
   7. Dan Szymborski Posted: June 05, 2009 at 08:45 PM (#3207981)
Red Sox is singular, Red Soxen is plural.
   8. Bring Me the Head of Alfredo Griffin (Vlad) Posted: June 05, 2009 at 09:05 PM (#3207996)
The Red Sox' Redd Foxx?
   9. Tulo's Fishy Mullet (mrams) Posted: June 05, 2009 at 09:05 PM (#3207997)
Are there fist fights on copy desks when a Sportswriter has to pound the table and scream "It's Maple Leafs, LEAFS, L-E-A-F-S!"
   10. Dewey, Steven Wright Wannabe and Soupuss Posted: June 05, 2009 at 09:07 PM (#3207999)
The plural of "dwarf" is "dwarves".
   11. mr. man Posted: June 05, 2009 at 09:19 PM (#3208007)
how about 'red stocking'?
   12. Flynn Posted: June 05, 2009 at 09:19 PM (#3208008)
Are there fist fights on copy desks when a Sportswriter has to pound the table and scream "It's Maple Leafs, LEAFS, L-E-A-F-S!"

I once had about the closest thing to a fight you can get with your fourth grade teacher when I wrote an essay about the Stanley Cup playoffs and mentioned the Canadiens. She simply would not believe that was how it was spelled, even when I explained to her they are from Montreal and ergo the name is spelled in French. I had to bring a Canadiens puck I had into class to prove it.
   13. jwb Posted: June 05, 2009 at 09:23 PM (#3208011)
That is more impressive than a sports section!
   14. Halofan Posted: June 05, 2009 at 11:37 PM (#3208142)
Alex Beam has been blogging since back in the day it was called being a columnist.
   15. talbright Posted: June 06, 2009 at 04:32 PM (#3208691)
Apparently the plural of roof is roofs, despite hoof-hooves, thief-thieves, etc. I actually had a conversation about this yesterday.
   16. virginiasteve Posted: June 06, 2009 at 05:26 PM (#3208725)
the pronunciation of "roof" is another regional issue. I pronounce it "ruf" while most of my co workers pronounce it "rooooof". "Leaf" and "leaves" seem to be universal.

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