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Monday, April 08, 2013

Tomase: Red Sox Easy To Root For

From the Boston Herald, so it’s just making the case that it’s easy for Red Sox fans to root for this version of the team. Last year… not so much.

On WEEI this morning they noted how everyone in the dugout was giving Middlebrooks high-fives after his flyout yesterday. I think it’s a foregone conclusion that nobody was happy he made an out. And it’s a lot easier to maintain a positive attitude when ahead by double digits, and in first place. But it’s still a positive sign that they’re a positive team. Positively.

villageidiom Posted: April 08, 2013 at 08:53 AM | 24 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
  Tags: chemistry, red sox, sox therapy

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   1. Commissioner Bud Black Beltre Hillman Posted: April 08, 2013 at 02:00 PM (#4407570)
Haven't watched every at bat, but I've yet to see Napoli smile, or look anything but pissed off (at his hip pain? at the 1year deal? that's just his way? I dunno). Whenever he's at the plate I think of the ####### mercenary slugger from the Major League movies.

But I'm open to coming around on Napoli and otherwise yeah, they're damn likeable. Just confused by a non negative Tomase article.
   2. Jolly Old St. Nick Is A Jolly Old St. Crip Posted: April 08, 2013 at 02:22 PM (#4407605)
"Likeable" is one thing, but don't let the Red Sox try to pull any "Scrappy Underdogs" schtick. The Yanks corralled that one over the Winter and they've been doubling down on it with each dislocated ankle and each fractured forearm. They earned it the hard way.
   3. Dale Sams Posted: April 08, 2013 at 02:54 PM (#4407646)
don't let the Red Sox try to pull any "Scrappy Underdogs" schtick


3 of the 4 other teams have been to the playoffs since the Sox last went, and the 4rth is 'supposed' to be a super-team.

I agree that a 160 million (whatever it is) payroll automatically disqualifies them, but I'm also jus sayin...
   4. Commissioner Bud Black Beltre Hillman Posted: April 08, 2013 at 03:40 PM (#4407712)
Edit: delayed DP
   5. villageidiom Posted: April 08, 2013 at 04:26 PM (#4407759)
I like Daniel Nava right now, for sure.
   6. BDC Posted: April 08, 2013 at 04:54 PM (#4407777)
I've yet to see Napoli smile

Can't remember him smiling in two years in Texas. Of course Andrus and Kinsler were the Dedicated Smilers on those teams.
   7. Los Angeles El Hombre of Anaheim Posted: April 08, 2013 at 05:50 PM (#4407859)
From the Boston Herald, so it’s just making the case that it’s easy for Red Sox fans to root for this version of the team.
Exactly. For the rest of the world...
Are they still in Boston? Are they still the Red Sox? Yes and yes? Then they're not easy to root for.
   8. rb's team is hopeful for the new year! Posted: April 08, 2013 at 06:15 PM (#4407881)
Are they still in Boston? Are they still the Red Sox? Yes and yes? Then they're not easy to root for.

Seconded.
   9. Long Time Listener, First Time Caller Posted: April 08, 2013 at 07:29 PM (#4407971)
March, 2013: Red Sox not in first place, Red Sox fans not sure if Red Sox will be easy to root for

April, 2013: Red Sox in first place, Red Sox fans say, "Red Sox much easier to root for!"
   10. Sonic Youk Posted: April 08, 2013 at 07:29 PM (#4407973)
easy to look good and have fun when you're winning, but I dig this team so far. Should be interesting to see how the roster plays out over the next month, but right now the defense is phenomenal, especially when Ross is catching. Excellent bullpen too. If Ortiz comes back healthy, and Middlebrooks is as good as I hope he is, the lineup looks pretty good as well. Way too early to talk about them contending for a playoff spot, but I think the people who think their baseline is 90 losses and a last place finish are nuts.
   11. Publius Publicola Posted: April 08, 2013 at 08:57 PM (#4408040)
They sure look strong defensively, with Bradley in left and Iglesias at short.

But I'm a Nats fan so...
   12. Dale Sams Posted: April 08, 2013 at 09:00 PM (#4408042)
March, 2013: Red Sox not in first place, Red Sox fans not sure if Red Sox will be easy to root for

April, 2013: Red Sox in first place, Red Sox fans say, "Red Sox much easier to root for!"


Process not results. I ##### non-stop about Napoli and Gomes pulling their heads. It's maddening. Why are Nava and Iglesias seeing success while more accomplished vets aren't?

1) Middling #3-#4 pitchers are what Nava and Iggy are used to seeing. Nor are they likely to put the ball on the turnpike, therefore they keep their eyes on the ball and their head down the barrel.

2) Also they're the type of players pitchers haven't heard of and will try and blow away.

Meanwhile, Napoli and Gomes and Ross and Ellsbury* to an extent are trying to see the ball go over the wall before they even get their bats off their shoulders.

Also it's easy to get behind a team that makes 30,000 Yankee fans go home early, and shuts-up BJ fans who act like they're the anointed ones.

*Ells actually will keep his head flush with the pitcher and then have no idea where the ball went when it sprays into LF.
   13. the Hugh Jorgan returns Posted: April 08, 2013 at 09:09 PM (#4408045)
Eh, the 5-2 start is nice.

The pitching looks pretty solid, I love the OF defense when Bradley is in. What makes the team interesting at this point is because the pitching is decent, they are striking guys out and the defense behind them looks solid is that they'll be competitive in most games. Scoring 4-5 runs a game isn't going to be too difficult, so as a fan you can approach each game with some optimism.
My optimism however is tempered at this stage and I see 82 wins as a successful season.
   14. villageidiom Posted: April 08, 2013 at 10:00 PM (#4408073)
My optimism however is tempered at this stage and I see 82 wins as a successful season.
They are closer to that goal than any other team.

I DECLARE THIS A HOUSE MONEY SEASON. BECAUSE THE DOWNSIDE IS A GIVEN, WE HAVE NO REASON NOT TO EMBRACE THE OPTIMISM. ENJOY THE RIDE.
   15. Jose Can Still Seabiscuit Posted: April 08, 2013 at 10:05 PM (#4408077)
Agreed with VI. I've been more relaxed than in recent years during the games so far because I feel like anything over .500 is gravy. I'm sure I'll be a raving lunatic if they go on a losing streak or if they are fighting for a playoff spot eventually but so far I've been enjoying things. Last year was SO miserable, just nothing to root for, that this is great.
   16. plink Posted: April 08, 2013 at 10:30 PM (#4408086)
I DECLARE THIS A HOUSE MONEY SEASON.

Absolutely, this.
   17. Walt Davis Posted: April 08, 2013 at 11:49 PM (#4408139)
BJ fans

Take it to the Hamilton thread
   18. the Hugh Jorgan returns Posted: April 09, 2013 at 12:01 AM (#4408147)
I feel like anything over .500 is gravy.


Yep. Hence my satisfaction with the possibility of 82 wins.
   19. Dan Posted: April 09, 2013 at 12:07 AM (#4408150)
I DECLARE THIS A HOUSE MONEY SEASON. BECAUSE THE DOWNSIDE IS A GIVEN, WE HAVE NO REASON NOT TO EMBRACE THE OPTIMISM. ENJOY THE RIDE.


I declare this a 100 win season.



In all seriousness, 90 wins wouldn't surprise me. But yeah, my actual expectations are in line with 82 wins or so being good enough. I am optimistic that they'll at least contend into September though, if not win a playoff spot.
   20. Drexl Spivey Posted: April 09, 2013 at 03:05 AM (#4408182)
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   21. villageidiom Posted: April 09, 2013 at 06:27 AM (#4408197)
I declare this a 100 win season.
But not in all caps, so how are we to take you seriously?
   22. Sean Forman Posted: April 09, 2013 at 04:42 PM (#4408725)
The stats right now say the defense is poor. That may work out over the course of the year, but right now they are near the bottom of the league.

http://www.baseball-reference.com/leagues/AL/2013-standard-fielding.shtml#teams_standard_fielding::16
   23. Jose Can Still Seabiscuit Posted: April 09, 2013 at 05:03 PM (#4408757)
The stats right now say the defense is poor. That may work out over the course of the year, but right now they are near the bottom of the league.


Boy that really doesn't jibe with what I would have expected. The games I've watched the defense has looked very good.

What strikes me looking at your link is that leaguewide DER is very very high. The Sox' .701 figure is above league average typically. Is this a normal early season occurance or is that just an oddity in 2013?
   24. villageidiom Posted: April 09, 2013 at 05:56 PM (#4408805)
Boy that really doesn't jibe with what I would have expected. The games I've watched the defense has looked very good.
1. Just yesterday Pedroia muffed two DP grounders, only converting each to one out.

2. TotalZone has them 1 run above average, per BB-Ref, 8th in the AL.

3. The Red Sox have had the fewest chances per inning. DRS is a counting stat, right?

All this is to say... I have no idea how they're doing defensively.

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