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Wednesday, May 07, 2014

Tommy Lasorda visits West Palm Beach, promptly shares opinion on V. Stiviano

Tommy Lasorda is eviler than ten hellhounds.

Lasorda was in West Palm Beach to pick up his honorary degree from Northwood University, where he was scheduled to speak as the school’s commencement speaker Tuesday afternoon.

WPBF 25 News’ Erin Guy on Tuesday spent a few minutes with Lasorda, who weighed in on the racist remarks by Los Angeles Clippers’ owner Donald Sterling.

“I’ve been a friend of that guy’s for 30 years,” he said. “It doesn’t surprise me that he said those things. And he shouldn’t have said it. He just hurt himself by talking too much and doing things he shouldn’t be doing.”

Lasorda also shared an unsolicited opinion on Sterling’s silly rabbit, V. Stiviano.

“And I don’t wish that girl any bad luck but I hope she gets hit with a car,” he said.

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   1. Smiling Joe Hesketh Posted: May 07, 2014 at 09:44 AM (#4701902)
“And I don’t wish that girl any bad luck but I hope she gets hit with a car,” he said.

DOES. NOT. COMPUTE.
   2. zonk Posted: May 07, 2014 at 09:56 AM (#4701910)
Louder than 10 dogs
   3. asinwreck Posted: May 07, 2014 at 10:03 AM (#4701919)
I don't wish that guy any bad luck but I hope he gets hit with a shattered bat.
   4. Jim (jimmuscomp) Posted: May 07, 2014 at 10:07 AM (#4701923)
I don't wish the guy any bad luck, but I hope he's killed by a mob of AIDS ravaged zombies, led by his son.

Is that how you play this game?
   5. Run, Mookie, Run Posted: May 07, 2014 at 10:19 AM (#4701936)
Plausible deniability for Tommy? It's not bad luck if it's done on purpose.
   6. Leroy Kincaid Posted: May 07, 2014 at 10:20 AM (#4701937)
Slim-Fast rage.
   7. Jolly Old St. Nick Is A Jolly Old St. Crip Posted: May 07, 2014 at 10:29 AM (#4701949)
Is there a living person in baseball more universally loathed around here than Lasorda? Is there a single person who sees Lasorda as he sees himself?

I can think of a few others who may be more loathed by some Primates, maybe even a majority. But does anyone else have Lasorda's unique ability to unite BTF in universal disgust nearly every time he opens his mouth?
   8. Hack Wilson Posted: May 07, 2014 at 10:30 AM (#4701951)
Another good buddy of Tommy would have said it better, "that girl may not have some of the necessities."
   9. Dock Ellis on Acid Posted: May 07, 2014 at 10:30 AM (#4701953)
"I have been friends with a racist for 30 years. I hope someone other than the racist gets hit by a car."
   10. You Know Nothing JT Snow (YR) Posted: May 07, 2014 at 10:32 AM (#4701962)
Tommy is just keeping it real. "Snitches get stitches" is what they say in the 'hood. Don't be hatin'.
   11. Rob_Wood Posted: May 07, 2014 at 10:33 AM (#4701965)

at least he didn't say he wishes she would die in a grease fire
   12. Barry`s_Lazy_Boy Posted: May 07, 2014 at 10:38 AM (#4701978)
“It doesn’t surprise me that he said those things.

Lasorda is good friends with people who he isn't surprised are evil.
   13. 6 - 4 - 3 Posted: May 07, 2014 at 10:44 AM (#4701988)
Huh, didn't realize he was still around. I thought he died of a heart attack a couple of years ago.
   14. RoyalsRetro (AG#1F) Posted: May 07, 2014 at 10:52 AM (#4702006)

"I have been friends with a racist for 30 years. I hope someone other than the racist gets hit by a car."


"I am not surprised my racist friend said racist things, his real sin was saying those racist things out loud."
   15. ASmitty Posted: May 07, 2014 at 10:53 AM (#4702009)
He just hurt himself by talking too much and doing things he shouldn’t be doing.


His only mistakes were the things he said and the things he did.
   16. Scott Lange Posted: May 07, 2014 at 10:54 AM (#4702011)
My dad was a Dodgers fan, and I read various autobiographies of Dodger players as a kid, so I was quite fond of Lasorda growing up. As an adult, I've recognized that he was a pretty severely flawed person, but still clung to the idea that the abuse he takes on BBTF was disproportionate, at least compared to the level of abuse that other rotten people in baseball receive. I think he might finally have pushed me too far this time.
   17. Nasty Nate Posted: May 07, 2014 at 10:55 AM (#4702014)
We come in peace, seeking gold and slaves.

-Jack Handey
   18. Jose Can Still Seabiscuit Posted: May 07, 2014 at 11:00 AM (#4702026)
I was quite fond of Lasorda growing up. As an adult, I've recognized that he was a pretty severely flawed person, but still clung to the idea that the abuse he takes on BBTF was disproportionate, at least compared to the level of abuse that other rotten people in baseball receive. I think he might finally have pushed me too far this time.


This is how I am too. I still remember him fondly on the Baseball Bunch but these comments are unacceptable.
   19. Jolly Old St. Nick Is A Jolly Old St. Crip Posted: May 07, 2014 at 11:05 AM (#4702033)
I think he might finally have pushed me too far this time.

Lasorda really does have the whole package: Bigotry, cluelessness, phony patriotism, old school clichemongering, celebrity suckuppery, corporate pitchman, terrible father, the whole "Dodger Blue" BS, and so on.

   20. Jeltzandini Posted: May 07, 2014 at 11:10 AM (#4702045)
Plus as a manager he was really just a figurehead for Johnny the shoeshine boy.
   21. Non-Youkilidian Geometry Posted: May 07, 2014 at 11:17 AM (#4702055)
Is there a living person in baseball more universally loathed around here than Lasorda? Is there a single person who sees Lasorda as he sees himself?

I can think of a few others who may be more loathed by some Primates, maybe even a majority. But does anyone else have Lasorda's unique ability to unite BTF in universal disgust nearly every time he opens his mouth?

Garvey also sems pretty much universally disliked here, although Lasorda may beat him on the "depth of loathing" metric.
   22. Tulo's Fishy Mullet (mrams) Posted: May 07, 2014 at 11:20 AM (#4702059)
I just learned (in J. Keri's terrific book) that the Expos were very aggressive in offering him the Manager job before the Dodgers promised to name him manager, after Alston's retirement.
   23. Jolly Old St. Nick Is A Jolly Old St. Crip Posted: May 07, 2014 at 11:26 AM (#4702071)
Garvey also sems pretty much universally disliked here, although Lasorda may beat him on the "depth of loathing" metric.

Lasorda wins on the bigotry index, but it is kind of interesting that two Dodgers are competing for the title. A-Rod might have been up there, except that many of his enemies (Selig, the MSM) are almost as loathed as he is.
   24. Bring Me the Head of Alfredo Griffin (Vlad) Posted: May 07, 2014 at 11:26 AM (#4702072)
Huh, didn't realize he was still around. I thought he died of a heart attack a couple of years ago.


To have a heart attack, he'd need to have a heart.
   25. zonk Posted: May 07, 2014 at 11:27 AM (#4702074)
Garvey also sems pretty much universally disliked here, although Lasorda may beat him on the "depth of loathing" metric.


Hmmmm....

I would say my loathing of Garvey is deeper, but my loathing of Lasorda is broader... But then, as a Cubs fan, Garvey would have a special place in my spleen even if he weren't a sanctimonious #########.
   26. Edmundo got dem ol' Kozma blues again mama Posted: May 07, 2014 at 11:30 AM (#4702078)
Tommy Lasorda is dumber than 10 silly rabbits
   27. snapper (history's 42nd greatest monster) Posted: May 07, 2014 at 11:44 AM (#4702095)
Sterling, Stiviano and Lasorda are all loathsome people. Can't we unite around the idea that they all should get hit by a car? Or 3 separate cars?
   28. jingoist Posted: May 07, 2014 at 11:50 AM (#4702103)
Lots and lots of loathing going on here.
Should we rename this discussion "Fear and Loathing in Dodgertown"?
   29. Canker Soriano Posted: May 07, 2014 at 11:53 AM (#4702111)
There might be a situation in which being hit by a car would be good luck.

For example, if the car was driven by an inebriated Bill Gates. I'd take a knock with a car in exchange for a $30 million payout to keep it out of the press.
   30. snapper (history's 42nd greatest monster) Posted: May 07, 2014 at 11:55 AM (#4702112)
There might be a situation in which being hit by a car would be good luck.

Or if you had a potentially deadly tumor, and didn't know, but they found it when treating you for the car accident, and were able to remove it in time.
   31. Rob_Wood Posted: May 07, 2014 at 11:57 AM (#4702116)

I think it was Dave Egan who wrote that the 1943 Boston Braves now had a chance for the pennant since their manager got hit by a car in spring training and broke his leg (and would be out for awhile). I cannot remember who that dreadful manager was ....
   32. A Fatty Cow That Need Two Seats Posted: May 07, 2014 at 12:01 PM (#4702123)
Anyone have a transcript of his commencement speech?
   33. Captain Supporter Posted: May 07, 2014 at 12:06 PM (#4702127)
There are way too may jerks on this site who find it way too easy to slander people as racists.

   34. A Fatty Cow That Need Two Seats Posted: May 07, 2014 at 12:07 PM (#4702133)
There are way too may jerks on this site who find it way too easy to slander people as jerks.
   35. boteman is here Posted: May 07, 2014 at 12:13 PM (#4702139)
Impeccable timing:

The Robot Car of Tomorrow Just May Be Programmed to Hit You

Of course, that article was published two days ago, so the robot car written about came out yesterday if I'm calculating things correctly.
   36. Johnny Sycophant-Laden Fora Posted: May 07, 2014 at 12:18 PM (#4702145)
My dad was a Dodgers fan ... so I was quite fond of Lasorda growing up. As an adult, I've recognized that he was a pretty severely flawed person...


I grew up in NY as a Met fan, but even so I pretty much absorbed the 1970s Yankee fan opinion of Lasorda- which was that he was a loudmouthed bumbling blowhard (who was somewhat cloyingly goofy)...

I revised that opinion somewhat over the years, he was for several years an extremely efficient and competent field manager, his main weakness as manager was that if allowed too much input into roster construction, who to sign, trade, etc., he was surprisingly weak in talent evaluation and clueless on how to build a team. I say surprisingly since most other successful managers of that era, Dick Williams, Earl Weaver, Billy Martin, Whitey Herzog, even Sparky Anderson, were strong in those areas.) but I've come around to the idea that he was, is and likely always will be a lowlife scumbag.
   37. Bring Me the Head of Alfredo Griffin (Vlad) Posted: May 07, 2014 at 12:20 PM (#4702149)
There are way too may jerks on this site who find it way too easy to slander people as racists.


Truth is an absolute defense against an accusation of slander.
   38. Steve Treder Posted: May 07, 2014 at 12:25 PM (#4702155)
My dear departed mother used to say, back in the day, that her greatest wish would be to dance on Tom Lasorda's grave.
   39. Steve Treder Posted: May 07, 2014 at 12:26 PM (#4702156)
I think it was Dave Egan who wrote that the 1943 Boston Braves now had a chance for the pennant since their manager got hit by a car in spring training and broke his leg (and would be out for awhile). I cannot remember who that dreadful manager was ....

It was Casey Stengel.
   40. Morty Causa Posted: May 07, 2014 at 12:31 PM (#4702161)
There are way too may jerks on this site who find it way too easy to slander people as jerks.

Yes. Two things in intellectual exchange people value most: first, pretending that they're morally superior to their opponent, and, second, ignoring everything but that which supports the first.
   41. My name is Votto, and I love to get blotto Posted: May 07, 2014 at 12:35 PM (#4702166)
Impeccable timing:

The Robot Car of Tomorrow Just May Be Programmed to Hit You


It's like Adam Carolla's fake movie "Carmageddon", when a virus causes all the the robot cars and GPS devices to drive into the Grand Canyon.
   42. Jose Can Still Seabiscuit Posted: May 07, 2014 at 12:59 PM (#4702187)
For example, if the car was driven by an inebriated Bill Gates. I'd take a knock with a car in exchange for a $30 million payout to keep it out of the press.


Would you let the car hit you in the nuts though? (h/t to Ryan)
   43. Canker Soriano Posted: May 07, 2014 at 01:39 PM (#4702241)
Would you let the car hit you in the nuts though? (h/t to Ryan)

Not for $1.2 million. I'd need retirement money.
   44. RoyalsRetro (AG#1F) Posted: May 07, 2014 at 01:47 PM (#4702250)
Is there a living person in baseball more universally loathed around here than Lasorda?


Bud Selig. Curt Schilling is up there, but probably behind Lasorda.

The criminals are up there too: Elijah Dukes, Chad Curtis, Mel Hall, Brett Myers, Josh Lueke.
   45. G.W.O. Posted: May 07, 2014 at 01:52 PM (#4702259)
Carl Everett doesn't get the depth of loathing, but I don't recall a single nice thing anyone ever said about him.
   46. Davo Dozier Posted: May 07, 2014 at 02:07 PM (#4702280)
Is there a living person in baseball more universally loathed around here than Lasorda?
Ernestro Frieri.
   47. Canker Soriano Posted: May 07, 2014 at 02:19 PM (#4702299)
What did Mel Hall do? I must have missed that one.

I prefer to focus my hatred on the appropriate people - Steve Garvey, and Steve Garvey. (I know he was mentioned up thread, but... Steve Garvey.) I've mellowed on Dusty Baker, I guess because of some time distance and it was kind of fun watching him buffoon his way around in Cincinnati (though the Chad Fox thing still makes my blood boil). LaTroy Hawkins can still suck a lemon.
   48. SoSHially Unacceptable Posted: May 07, 2014 at 02:24 PM (#4702305)
What did Mel Hall do? I must have missed that one.


He's a kiddie rapist. And to be fair, not everyone at BTF has turned on him.

And only Cubs fans and Paul O'Neill cultists dislike LaTroy. Everyone else knows he's awesome.
   49. Publius Publicola Posted: May 07, 2014 at 02:25 PM (#4702306)
You know, I've seen this number, 10, thrown around promiscuously with respect to Lasorda. I think that's unfair. I happen to have insider information that Lasorda is dumber than no more than 8.2 dogs.
   50. Publius Publicola Posted: May 07, 2014 at 02:26 PM (#4702307)
I don't recall a single nice thing anyone ever said about him.


He's a god-fearing Christian.
   51. Pat Rapper's Delight Posted: May 07, 2014 at 02:30 PM (#4702314)
Chad Curtis never seemed to be all that fond here (Jim Gray interview, Royce Clayton scuffle), and that was before his own jailbait collar.
   52. Smiling Joe Hesketh Posted: May 07, 2014 at 02:34 PM (#4702318)
Carl Everett doesn't get the depth of loathing, but I don't recall a single nice thing anyone ever said about him.

I attended a game at Fenway early in his first year with the Sox and he hit a walk off home run. So he made for a nice day at the park.

'S'all I got.
   53. Bring Me the Head of Alfredo Griffin (Vlad) Posted: May 07, 2014 at 02:34 PM (#4702319)
He's a kiddie rapist.


To be specific: He took advantage of a position as a girls' basketball coach to rape several teen/tween girls that had been entrusted to him.
   54. Accent Shallow Posted: May 07, 2014 at 02:36 PM (#4702322)
Carl Everett doesn't get the depth of loathing, but I don't recall a single nice thing anyone ever said about him.

I'm sure Red Sox fans appreciate his breaking up Mike Mussina's would-be perfect game, no?
   55. Jolly Old St. Nick Is A Jolly Old St. Crip Posted: May 07, 2014 at 02:37 PM (#4702323)
Is there a living person in baseball more universally loathed around here than Lasorda?

Bud Selig. Curt Schilling is up there, but probably behind Lasorda.


Both Selig and Schilling have had plenty of defenders around here.

The criminals are up there too: Elijah Dukes, Chad Curtis, Mel Hall, Brett Myers, Josh Lueke.

Too small sample sizes. Twenty pinata post minimum requirement for careful career consideration.

-----------------------------------------------------

Carl Everett doesn't get the depth of loathing, but I don't recall a single nice thing anyone ever said about him.

AFAICR Everett elicits far more laughter than loathing, what with his comments about dinosaurs and all that.

-----------------------------------------------------

Ernestro Frieri.

That sounds more like a soccer player than a baseball player. How many threads have there been about him?
   56. Traderdave Posted: May 07, 2014 at 02:40 PM (#4702330)
Chass, Kevin & Backlasher are all much unloved.
   57. Jolly Old St. Nick Is A Jolly Old St. Crip Posted: May 07, 2014 at 02:42 PM (#4702334)
Chass, Kevin & Backlasher are all much unloved.

Not as unanimously as Lasorda, though Chass might be close.
   58. AROM Posted: May 07, 2014 at 02:45 PM (#4702343)
“And I don’t wish that girl any bad luck but I hope she gets hit with a car,” he said.


Strange phrasing. If she does get hit by a car I would assume it was not bad luck, but Lasorda ordering the hit.
   59. Pat Rapper's Delight Posted: May 07, 2014 at 02:55 PM (#4702353)
Everett elicits far more laughter than loathing, what with his comments about dinosaurs and all that.

How's the knee???
How's the knee???
   60. Bitter Mouse Posted: May 07, 2014 at 03:07 PM (#4702373)
I can think of a few others who may be more loathed by some Primates, maybe even a majority. But does anyone else have Lasorda's unique ability to unite BTF in universal disgust nearly every time he opens his mouth?


People mentioned Steve Garvey (and no to this Giant's fan it is not surprising two Dodgers are in the running). I think Nancy Grace wins the non-baseball division for universally hated.

And yeah the various criminals get hate, but well they are criminals.
   61. Canker Soriano Posted: May 07, 2014 at 03:09 PM (#4702375)
To be specific: He took advantage of a position as a girls' basketball coach to rape several teen/tween girls that had been entrusted to him.

Really? Mel Hall-based illusions shattered.

   62. 6 - 4 - 3 Posted: May 07, 2014 at 03:52 PM (#4702445)
Why isn't the satanist Chris Truby and his deacon Albert Belle ever mentioned among the most disliked by BTF posters?
   63. A big pile of nonsense (gef the talking mongoose) Posted: May 07, 2014 at 03:55 PM (#4702453)
Because a bunch of us are secretly Satanists?
   64. RoyalsRetro (AG#1F) Posted: May 07, 2014 at 03:58 PM (#4702459)
I can think of a few others who may be more loathed by some Primates, maybe even a majority.


Who else? Octavio Dotel.
   65. JE (Jason) Posted: May 07, 2014 at 05:16 PM (#4702545)
Garvey also sems pretty much universally disliked here, although Lasorda may beat him on the "depth of loathing" metric.

Another thing to consider: Lasorda is in the news saying stupid #### pretty regularly. When was the last time Garvey made headlines?
   66. Jose Can Still Seabiscuit Posted: May 07, 2014 at 05:23 PM (#4702550)
I'm sure Red Sox fans appreciate his breaking up Mike Mussina's would-be perfect game, no?


I was at that game. I remember standing and cheering as Everett came to bat and my friend asked me "are you rooting for the perfect game or for a base hit?" and I looked at him and said "I honestly don't know." It was weird, I just knew whatever happened in that at bat I would always remember.

In retrospect I would have much rather have seen a perfect game than a one hitter. I would have preferred a two run homer followed his single but gimme the win for the Sox or the perfect game.
   67. Harmon "Thread Killer" Microbrew Posted: May 07, 2014 at 05:24 PM (#4702552)
- Smitty really hates pants
- Jim Furtado really hates Burst.net
- Old Primers were strongly annoyed by Yun Taragoshi
   68. Fred Lynn Nolan Ryan Sweeney Agonistes Posted: May 07, 2014 at 05:28 PM (#4702559)
Is there a living person in baseball more universally loathed around here than Lasorda?


Another thing to consider: Lasorda is in the news saying stupid #### pretty regularly.


Lasorda seems extremely unlikable, but I absolutely love his recorded rants - Bevacqua, Kingman, pulling Doug Rau in the WS, whoever it was that was "burying himself, right on the ####### mound."
   69. Jolly Old St. Nick Is A Jolly Old St. Crip Posted: May 07, 2014 at 05:37 PM (#4702566)
Another thing to consider: Lasorda is in the news saying stupid #### pretty regularly. When was the last time Garvey made headlines?

Yeah, one thing about Lasorda is that while he may be old, he always comes up with new material.
   70. Tulo's Fishy Mullet (mrams) Posted: May 07, 2014 at 08:59 PM (#4702639)
Sheffield is hated universally, no? Or are my Brewers goggles clouding my judgment?
   71. Long Time Listener, First Time Caller Posted: May 07, 2014 at 10:56 PM (#4702678)
I was a pretty staunch defender of Carl Everett before he was arrested on domestic violence charges. When he joined the White Sox there were grumblings about him as a clubhouse cancer, but it turned out that mostly was just Dan Shaughnessy being a piece of #### (read: being Dan Shaughnessy). He was nothing but a positive presence in the White Sox clubhouse, was part of a World Championship team, and then complained when he was dispensed of because he wanted to continue being part of the organization. That was all aces in my book, frankly. Domestic violence charges kind of took the wind out of those sails though.
   72. SoSHially Unacceptable Posted: May 07, 2014 at 11:23 PM (#4702689)
While Shaughnessy was indeed a raging #######, Carl Everett in Boston did more than enough on his own without any assistance from the guy he homophobically* derided. Whether he was certifiably carcinogenic I can't say, but he was perhaps the most detestable players to wear the Red Sox uniform in my lifetime, something his surprising stand-up stint in Chicago wasn't going to change.

* While you can make an argument that Curly Headed Boyfriend is not necessarily homophobic, Carl's other comments leave no question about his bonafides on that count.
   73. Graham & the 15-win "ARod Vortex of suck" Posted: May 07, 2014 at 11:36 PM (#4702694)
I'm surprised that Dan Shaughnessy wasn't mentioned until post #71. I find him even more irritating than Murray Chass. The latter was once a respected sportswriter at least on the subject of baseball labor relations. He's become bitter and cynical, and as a result, he trolls for attention. Shaughnessy, on the other hand, has always been a hack to the best of my knowledge.
   74. Random Transaction Generator Posted: May 07, 2014 at 11:52 PM (#4702697)
I can think of a few others who may be more loathed by some Primates, maybe even a majority.


What does this have to do with Frank Tanana?

Oh, I have to think Pete Rose is pretty despised by a majority here, right?
   75. SouthSideRyan Posted: May 08, 2014 at 12:18 AM (#4702699)
Jeff Loria, WTF guys?
   76. spike Posted: May 08, 2014 at 01:26 AM (#4702705)
Sheffield is hated universally, no?

He was a model citizen and an absolute beast with Atlanta - Braves fans liked him just fine.
   77. Bourbon Samurai Posted: May 08, 2014 at 06:57 AM (#4702731)
“And I don’t wish that girl any bad luck but I hope she gets hit with a car,”


Tommy may be a class A doofus but this is a fantastic line. I plan to use it and various variations of it.

Yeah, I don't wish our old intern who stole things any bad luck, but I hope he gets eaten by cobras.
   78. jacksone (AKA It's OK...) Posted: May 08, 2014 at 08:40 AM (#4702752)
Yeah, I don't wish our old intern who stole things any bad luck, but I hope he gets eaten by cobras.


Eaten by cobras? How would that even work? Can cobras bite chunks off things? Would they just swallow his hands and feet and then slowly digest their way up his arms and legs? I'd really like for you to expand upon your thinking here.
   79. Greg Pope thinks the Cubs are reeking havoc Posted: May 08, 2014 at 08:44 AM (#4702755)
but I hope he gets eaten by cobras.

IANAH, but I don't think cobras could actually eat a person. Kill them, certainly, but not devour them.

EDIT: coke to jacksone...
   80. Jose Can Still Seabiscuit Posted: May 08, 2014 at 08:59 AM (#4702764)
Cobras are omnivores, I see no reason to think they wouldn't be able to eat Bourbon's old intern.
   81. jacksone (AKA It's OK...) Posted: May 08, 2014 at 09:14 AM (#4702774)
Cobras are omnivores, I see no reason to think they wouldn't be able to eat Bourbon's old intern.


Tiny little jaws? No teeth designed for cutting and tearing? I am assuming Bourbon's old intern isn't the infamous 12" pianist...
   82. You Know Nothing JT Snow (YR) Posted: May 08, 2014 at 09:23 AM (#4702779)
Can we talk about a new case of racial hysteria? Welterweight contender suspended for calling Mexican opponent "Mexican".
   83. Jose Can Still Seabiscuit Posted: May 08, 2014 at 09:42 AM (#4702797)

Tiny little jaws? No teeth designed for cutting and tearing?


That's what's going to make it so horrible for the intern. Really make that SOB suffer!
   84. Pat Rapper's Delight Posted: May 08, 2014 at 10:26 AM (#4702823)
Welterweight contender suspended for calling Mexican opponent "Mexican".

The new politically correct terminology is "Mexican-American."
   85. McCoy Posted: May 08, 2014 at 10:39 AM (#4702828)
Adrien Broner is hereby suspended from participating in any WBC sanctioned Championship and will be excluded from the WBC Ratings until the time he makes a public apology satisfactorily to the public of the world.



So this means he's banned for life.
   86. TerpNats Posted: May 08, 2014 at 10:57 AM (#4702836)
Why Sparky Anderson (RIP) made a better "ambassador" for baseball than Tom Lasorda: Sparky was smart enough to keep his mouth shut on such matters.

Also, in terms of despised figures at BTF, how can we leave out John Sterling and Ken Harrelson?

Finally, regarding Casey Stengel and Dave Egan, I've read that the latter fell into hard times in his old age and Casey helped pay for his medical expenses.
   87. Bring Me the Head of Alfredo Griffin (Vlad) Posted: May 08, 2014 at 11:21 AM (#4702856)
Sheffield is hated universally, no? Or are my Brewers goggles clouding my judgment?


I don't think he's universally hated at all.
   88. Infinite Joost (Voxter) Posted: May 08, 2014 at 11:24 AM (#4702860)
I'm surprised that Dan Shaughnessy wasn't mentioned until post #71.


This is the one. I think CHB is definitely the most universally and passionately loathed person around here. And he deserves it.
   89. Non-Youkilidian Geometry Posted: May 08, 2014 at 12:01 PM (#4702882)
This is the one. I think CHB is definitely the most universally and passionately loathed person around here. And he deserves it.

I took Andy's original reference to people "in baseball" as not including the media, but the field is expanded to include TV and newspaper guys I agree the CHB jumps into the lead. Which is another reason Carl Everett isn't a serious contender -- it is hard to unreservedly hate the guy who gave Shaughnessy his nickname.
   90. just plain joe Posted: May 08, 2014 at 01:42 PM (#4702947)
Finally, regarding Casey Stengel and Dave Egan, I've read that the latter fell into hard times in his old age and Casey helped pay for his medical expenses.


This is possible although I would tend to doubt it. Egan died relatively young (in his late fifties I think) and, as far as I know, was still writing his newspaper column. If this was the case then it isn't likely he would have needed any assistance.
   91. Sunday silence Posted: May 08, 2014 at 02:43 PM (#4702982)
as far as I know, was still writing his newspaper column. If this was the case then it isn't likely he would have needed any assistance.


because writing a newspaper column is evidence of perfect health? I am not following your reasoning here.
   92. just plain joe Posted: May 08, 2014 at 03:07 PM (#4702995)
because writing a newspaper column is evidence of perfect health? I am not following your reasoning here.


Because writing a newspaper column would provide him with a steady income and, possibly, insurance benefits. Of course Egan had been a drunk for a long time by then so perhaps he did need financial assistance.
   93. Jolly Old St. Nick Is A Jolly Old St. Crip Posted: May 08, 2014 at 03:21 PM (#4703005)
This is the one. I think CHB is definitely the most universally and passionately loathed person around here. And he deserves it.


I took Andy's original reference to people "in baseball" as not including the media, but the field is expanded to include TV and newspaper guys I agree the CHB jumps into the lead.

Actually both Chass and Shaughnessy have been the subject of enough pinata posts that I'd say they were eligible for consideration. But since I can't think of a single person who actually likes any of them, especially after Lasorda's latest outburst, I might have to call it a three way tie, and maybe Mariotti makes it a foursome.

Which is another reason Carl Everett isn't a serious contender -- it is hard to unreservedly hate the guy who gave Shaughnessy his nickname.

Of course Everett got some hate for the homophobia that was behind that original CHB epithet. Everett's a mixed bag to say the least.
   94. Random Transaction Generator Posted: May 08, 2014 at 03:35 PM (#4703008)
Which is another reason Carl Everett isn't a serious contender -- it is hard to unreservedly hate the guy who gave Shaughnessy his nickname.


"The enemy of my enemy is my friend", sort of thing?
   95. SoSHially Unacceptable Posted: May 08, 2014 at 03:46 PM (#4703015)
Everett's a mixed bag to say the least.


No, no he's not.

Milton Bradley always had a thoughtful side that one could point to whenever he did something Miltonian.

Everett's just an #######. That he doesn't like another ####### is not a point in his favor.
   96. Johnny Sycophant-Laden Fora Posted: May 08, 2014 at 03:47 PM (#4703016)
Actually both Chass and Shaughnessy have been the subject of enough pinata posts that I'd say they were eligible for consideration. But since I can't think of a single person who actually likes any of them, especially after Lasorda's latest outburst, I might have to call it a three way tie, and maybe Mariotti makes it a foursome.


There used to be someone here who would defend Chass on the basis that Murray had been a good guy 30+ years ago.
   97. SoSHially Unacceptable Posted: May 08, 2014 at 03:56 PM (#4703017)

There used to be someone here who would defend Chass on the basis that Murray had been a good guy 30+ years ago.


Bob Tufts was friendly with Murray. Might still be, but Bob unfriended us.

Sugar Bear routinely defends him, but I don't think that counts.
   98. JE (Jason) Posted: May 08, 2014 at 04:10 PM (#4703024)
Bob Tufts was friendly with Murray. Might still be, but Bob unfriended us.

Not quite. If Bob's in town on the 21st of June, he'll show up to the BBTF softball game.
   99. Johnny Sycophant-Laden Fora Posted: May 08, 2014 at 06:02 PM (#4703083)
but Bob unfriended us.


I think Bob unfriended Kevin...

I think Bob was good poster for BBTF, because, well as much as it is fun to make fun of Joe Morgan for claiming that only someone who has "played THE game" has a valid opinion, a site like BBTF needs a look from the perspective of someone who's played at that level.

   100. Jolly Old St. Nick Is A Jolly Old St. Crip Posted: May 08, 2014 at 06:11 PM (#4703089)
Everett's a mixed bag to say the least.

No, no he's not.


Wait a minute, are you telling me that someone who says "You can't say there were dinosaurs when you never saw them" can be all bad? I can't buy that. That's almost as endearing as Kevin Mitchell's saying that he drinks Vicks Vap-o-Rub because "it makes me feel like a champion", or Magic Johnson's saying that he wants to be "a spokesman for the [HIV] virus".
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