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Tuesday, March 04, 2014

MLBPA watching Mets’ payroll

New players’ union chief Tony Clark did not use the harsh language his predecessors sometimes did when discussing the New York Mets’ paltry payroll, but he indicated there is an awareness of the lack of spending.

The Mets enter the season with roughly an $87 million payroll, which is estimated to be seventh-lowest in MLB, despite playing in the game’s largest market.

“Let me offer you this: If there are concerns, what often ends up happening is we have an opportunity, along with Major League Baseball, to sit down and discuss perhaps what the game plan might be or could be going forward,” said Clark, who played for the Mets in 2003.

“Is New York one of the marquee franchises? Yes. Will they always be? Yes. Are we paying attention in general? Yes.”

Hope he has some magnifying glasses!

attaboy Posted: March 04, 2014 at 04:14 PM | 15 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
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   1. RoyalsRetro (AG#1F) Posted: March 04, 2014 at 05:41 PM (#4666374)
And the Cubs? They have about the same projected payroll in the third largest market.
   2. bfan Posted: March 04, 2014 at 06:27 PM (#4666412)
And the Cubs? They have about the same projected payroll in the third largest market.


Well, that must mean that all of the other smaller market teams are ranked 2 spots higher on the scale of payroll rankings than they should be.
   3. TDF, situational idiot Posted: March 04, 2014 at 06:46 PM (#4666425)
And the Cubs? They have about the same projected payroll in the third largest market.
Aren't the Cubs seen as having a plan (shed the horrible old contracts and bring in good, young talent) while the Mets are seen as just shedding payroll (with the whole Madoff affair in the background)?
   4. RoyalsRetro (AG#1F) Posted: March 04, 2014 at 06:49 PM (#4666426)
Aren't the Cubs seen as having a plan


Maybe, but the only terrible contract seems to be Alfonso Soriano, which they're in the last year of, and all the good young talent is still in the minors. I don't really see what's stopping them from raising payroll now and being decent.
   5. Johnny Sycophant-Laden Fora Posted: March 04, 2014 at 06:50 PM (#4666428)
And the Cubs? They have about the same projected payroll in the third largest market.


and they don't have the Madoff excuse.

Aren't the Cubs seen as having a plan (shed the horrible old contracts and bring in good, young talent)


I know I'm not supposed to say this about a team being ruin by Saint Theo, but I don't really see them "progressing" any faster than Alderson's Mets at this point.
   6. Russlan is fond of Dillon Gee Posted: March 04, 2014 at 07:11 PM (#4666447)
I know I'm not supposed to say this about a team being ruin by Saint Theo, but I don't really see them "progressing" any faster than Alderson's Mets at this point.

Subtle.

I honestly think the Mets are doing a reasonable job of rebuilding. I'd have liked them to sign Drew especially as they pretty much have made it clear that they hate Tejada but I am not unhappy with this offseason.
   7. caprules Posted: March 04, 2014 at 07:22 PM (#4666458)
Tony Clark is preparing to deliver a well-oiled swing.
   8. McCoy Posted: March 04, 2014 at 07:22 PM (#4666459)
If it wasn't for the Dodgers/Angels the players might very well have done some serious grumbling by now. The Yankees basically blew their wad on a Japanese player and the Cubs and Mets have been silent for quite a while now. Meanwhile a bunch of teams that have signed new mega TV contracts haven't really gone full insane like they used to in the past in the free agent market.
   9. catomi01 Posted: March 04, 2014 at 07:56 PM (#4666478)
If it wasn't for the Dodgers/Angels the players might very well have done some serious grumbling by now. The Yankees basically blew their wad on a Japanese player and the Cubs and Mets have been silent for quite a while now. Meanwhile a bunch of teams that have signed new mega TV contracts haven't really gone full insane like they used to in the past in the free agent market.


A lot of players are getting pretty nice extensions long before they reach FA...that has the double effect of keeping them happy, and keeping a lot of the stars who used to get the big contracts off the market. The *BIG* guys this year - Cano, Ellsbury, Tanaka - made their money - and the 2nd tier guys - McCann, Beltran, Granderson, etc. seem fairly paid (if anything overly paid) - the guys left in the cold had warts one way or the other - steroids taint, draft pick compensation, injury, etc.

The one exception to that is Drew who was expected to get a lot - but just hasn't - even that there is some justification - he had to take a one year deal last off-season, is going to be 31, and last years injury shortened campaign was the most games he's played since 2011. I'd still take him (especially on a 1-2 year deal) - but this isn't the type of guy you'd want your team locking up for 4-5 years or more.
   10. Joey B. Posted: March 04, 2014 at 08:17 PM (#4666482)
Time for a new stadium so the Mets can start bringing those fans in.
   11. Walt Davis Posted: March 04, 2014 at 08:26 PM (#4666487)
Not to "defend" the Cubs but their payroll was over $100 M in 2012 and 2013 with no real decline from 12-13 ... the MLBPA can't whine every time a big team dips down briefly. If the Cubs are still running a low payroll maybe next year and certainly the year after, the union will "keep an eye" on them too.

OK, that's not as different than the Mets than I thought but they did shed about $50 M from 11 to 12 (Cubs just $30), were under $100 in both 12 and 13 and are lower this year.

Still, maybe it was a NY paper that asked the question. Did anybody ask Clark about the Cubs?
   12. Dr. Vaux Posted: March 04, 2014 at 08:32 PM (#4666492)
It wasn't just the draft pick compensation, either. Jimenez and Santana just aren't that good, and certainly not consistent. Would they really have gotten more than about 4 years and $50 million each even without draft pick compensation? Maybe a little more, but not much more. Kendry Morales is a first baseman and DH who isn't that good, and guys like that are available for way less than he was asking. The same can be said of Nelson Cruz.

The big thing keeping payrolls comparatively low and free-agency comparatively low-key is the long-term extensions. To think that the owners could have figured out in 1976 that they could give long-term extensions to their young stars and thereby avoid huge free-agency costs. But better late than never (for them, that is). They've succeeded in taking a lot of the luster out of the free-agent market.
   13. McCoy Posted: March 04, 2014 at 09:08 PM (#4666508)
The Cubs had to spend over 100 million in 2012 but they didn't put a 100 million dollar product on the field. They paid 17 million dollars to make Carlos Zambrano go away. The 2013 team had a real shot at spending a ton of money if they wanted to and Theo blew his wad on Edwin Jackson and 1 year deals for Feldman and Baker and two year deals for Villanueva and Fujikawa. Plus raises for in house guys. If you ever want to see how you squander 30 million dollars in baseball just see the Cubs 2013 offseason.
   14. bobm Posted: March 04, 2014 at 10:13 PM (#4666530)
FTFA:

The Post recently reported that a current [Mets] team loan, due to be refinanced, had payroll constraints written into the terms by lenders.

"No, we are not aware of that," said Clark, who spoke with media in Port St. Lucie after the union had its annual meeting with players.

The Mets also have disputed that reported language.

Clark also offered on that subject: "We're not consulted necessarily on the loans that are made by clubs, but we can appreciate when there is special language or special covenants in any particular loan and how that may manifest itself in the decision-making. Those are conversations that we will always have."
   15. ptodd Posted: March 04, 2014 at 10:56 PM (#4666547)
bobm. There were payroll constraints on the original loan. The terms of refinancing lifted these restrictions per reports I read when it was announced.

Not sure Clark is the right guy for the job. He comes off as weak and too willing to be partners with MLB. MLB will walk all over him unless he earns their respect. First mistake was not firing Horowitz.

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