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Monday, December 17, 2012
10:52am: Dickey landed in Florida to undergo his physical, ESPN.com’s Buster Olney reports (on Twitter). Some of the two-year, $25MM extension will be a signing bonus for 2013.
10:42am: The sides are in agreement on a two-year, $25MM deal, Ken Rosenthal of FOX Sports reports (Twitter links). The agreement is pending a physical, and the trade will be official if and when Dickey passes. The two-year deal would cover the 2014-15 seasons.
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I wonder if the qualifying offer amount has had some sort of weird anchoring effect on perceived value?
I hadn't thought of that, but that's a good call. Weirdly, the 2 uber-free agents--Hamilton and Greinke--have gotten almost exactly twice the anchor.
Didn't he want a no-trade if he signed an extension with the Mets?
They were hedging against the possibility of a trade partner seeing Dickey as more valuable at 1/5 than with the extension.
That was speculation for the 'low' extension offer from Dickey. I haven't seen it sourced from anybody about the No trade clause.
Well at least they salvaged a couple of ties.
Because that's rude? Honestly. That's a dick move.
And slamming your players and calling him a dick in the papers isn't?
Oh, of course it is.
Yes, and the Blue Jays are probably the favorite in the AL East right now, which makes it a slam dunk.
I really hope Toronto makes the playoffs. They have a really likable team, and should be able to rebuild their fanbase rapidly with some winning ball.
Would love to see Flores come to Toronto prompting a healthy discussion over the meaning of "non-elite".
It's got to seem like Christmas for Blue Jay fans.
Buehrle, Dickey, Johnson, Reyes, Izturis, Cabrera. Wow! What an off-season.
Don't forget, the Mets get a non-elite guy too. I mean, I personally would not call Anthony Gose an elite prospect...
They've actually been rebuilding it over the last couple years, beginning with the the cancellation of the Ricciardi clown show. Their TV ratings have been excellent, and they are seeing increases in attendance. A playoff season would definitely help, but getting people talking about baseball again in Toronto (and these trades have done that) will be a boost by itself.
How does the complete absence of hockey factor in? The Jays would seem to be the most likely beneficiaries of an NHL-free season.
It certainly can't hurt. The sports stations (owned largely by Rogers) have to fill the time with something, and the Jays trades have given them just that. It's better than listening to the endless speculation as to when (or if) the NHLPA and owners are going to come to an agreement.
It also helps that no one wants to talk about the Raptors.
Oh, yeah I forgot they was a team.
I think the clue there is: Some of the two-year, $25MM extension will be a signing bonus for 2013.
Dickey's getting a taste upfront in this deal. Still, my quickie calculation suggests that bonus would have to be quite large to make the NPVs work out the same as 5/13/13.
Would Dickey sign with the Royals for 2/$25 though? Probably not. So the option for the Royals was Myers + for two years of Shields or Myers + for one year of Dickey.
Stupidest nickname in sports history. Let's name our nba team after a 80 million years extinct dinosaur who will be instantly forgotten six weeks after the movie leaves the theater.
The Jays have to be the favorite at this point, I believe; all the other teams have significant weaknesses.
Why not?
So did they.
It would probably require a must trade clause.
They're probably the favorite now, but they have their weaknesses too. These trades have gutted a lot of their potential depth, so injuries (especially in the starting rotation) could cause all sorts of havoc. They also still need a 1B who doesn't fill me with hate, and someone who can remind Rasmus how to hit.
All this isn't a complaint, however. I love what they've done this offseason, in putting together a team which people aren't discussing in terms of if everything breaks right, they might be able to sneak in as a wildcard, but in terms of being the best of the AL East.
Pretty sure if Mets had countered his offer with $25M/2, Dickey snap accepts without any signing bonus required.
'Raptor' is a very general term for a bird of prey. The birds of prey is really quite a good name, I think, and 'raptor' is much snappier. The fact that it's also short for 'velociraptor' follows from the close relationship dinosaurs have to birds, and might even be why they chose that name, but I think the name is cool regardless of whether it was inspired by Jurassic Park.
The Raptors players have already gone on record that they suck, but nobody cares. If that happened in any other NBA, that would have caused a uproar.
Anyway, as much as I'm a fan of RA overall I have to say I'm happy with the trade. I have to assume d'Arnaud starts out the year in the majors at least as a platoon with Buck, right?
Would they go after Adam LaRoche or are they stuck with Lind?
Minnesota Wild? Oklahoma City Thunder?
The Jays have certainly added a number of household names to their team.
What? Why would Anonymous target LaRoche or Lind?
They are likely stuck with Lind for now. They've already added a ton of payroll, between Johnson, Reyes, Dickey, and Buehrle.
Haha, multiple threads at once! Cut and paste shenanigans!
But seriously, God Hates Jays.
They have a dinosaur dribbling a basketball on their logo.
I know I'll be rooting for them (possibly pretty hard) once the Sox get mathematically eliminated. The number of players they've added this offseason that I really like is quite staggering - to go with Bautista, Morrow, EE5, Rasmus, Raj Davis (who gets slammed for sucking but is actually a very fun player), who I already liked, I have also always liked Buehrle (would be in contention for favorite non-rooting interest player if it wasn't for the weird dog subtext and gigantic truck), Josh Johnson, Reyes, Dickey... it's amazing actually.
Meanwhile Boston adds one faceless automaton after another. Sorry for the hijack. I like the Blue Jays, end of post.
Miami Heat is worse just in the NBA.
Toronto is shaping up to have a very nice rotation. Hmmm.. opening at 1B. Morneau is a pending free agent and known Canadian.
Has he come out of the closet?
Out pronounced "oot" of course.
Utah Jazz.
Seriously, the worst announcers this side of Dick Stockton. They make me want to watch the White Sox.
Hey, hey, hey. Let's not say anything we're going to regret later.
I'm pretty sure hungry dinosaurs dribbled.
Stanford Cardinal. Not the bird; the color.
Where do the Montgomery Biscuits fit in?
It's no Macon Trax, that's for sure.
Also no need to start the arb clock right away. He'll be up in June/July I'd imagine.
Can we have a discussion about whether Mike Nickeas counts as an elite prospect or not?
Remember when the Jays were flush with catching prospects, and then they weren't?
Joe Lawrence. He compensated for his poor fielding with his terrible hitting.
Also, from an earlier era, Sprague spent time in the minors as a catcher.
Anyone know how taxes work out for the contract in Toronto and Canada? New York taxes are really high, both state and city. He must come out ahead somewhat in that department, maybe as much as a million or so.
They certainly did put him in left.
He actually could have handled C defensively, but I believe he hurt his shoulder in the minors at one point, and the Jays decided his bat was more important.
If they run Mike Nickeas out there for a week or three, you'll really start to appreciate Arencibia. And even Thole, for that matter. Nickeas will make you long for Joe Lawrence.
I hate when fat cats and insiders like R.A. Dickey get all the sweet tax deals.
Your name-generating algorithm needs work.
That this had any chance of being accurately written makes me kind of hate this trade.
John Buck should be able to hold down the fort for awhile.
Fixed.
With Reyes and Dickey, the Blue Jays are now my third favorite team.
Whoa!
Who is your 2nd favorite team?
Whoa!
You should be ashamed.
I don't really know much of what he's been doing there in terms of front office work, but I'd be willing to bet he's the source of a whole lot of the leaks around the Dickey trade. He ran an amazingly porous front office in Toronto, so that everyone in the city knew everything that was happening at all times.
It really didn't get much play at all. There was a 1 minute piece on the major sports networks, which had Bargnani saying he was misquoted (in his native language).
That's it.
It's hard to believe that this franchise was a single rim-out shot from Carter from making the NBA Eastern Conference Finals (2001).
Now? Meh.
I already do
Tampa. I've been rooting for them since Kazmir was traded there.
Big deal, the Red Sox have five catchers right now (Butler, Lavarnway, Ross, Saltalamacchia, Vazquez) and theoretically have Napoli as well. (what happened with that?)
John Buck should be able to hold down the fort for awhile.
No, right, but who's the backup? d'Arnaud to start, or someone else (from outside the organization, unless there's someone in AAA I don't remember) while they put the arb clock on hold?
If I'm David Wright, I'm feeling very dumb for having signed that extension. He's never going to see a winning season, much less a postseason, again.
Oh! Um, Anthony Recker? I've never heard of him until I looked up the 40-man. He was claimed off waivers from the Cubs in October.
I'm not a Mets fan, but you guys deserve better than Ricciardi as GM.
The what?
Nickeas too? I think this means the idea of Arencibia catching Dickey gives AA the giggles. Thole as his personal C to start then, if he's hurt, up comes Nickeas.
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