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Tracy Ringolsby: Josh Donaldson emerging as big-time bat for overlooked A’s | athletics.com: News

I guess that guy is really pretty good.

Jim Furtado Posted: May 29, 2014 at 07:00 AM | 29 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
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   1. I Am Not a Number Posted: May 29, 2014 at 08:01 AM (#4715157)
Emerging? Yeah, maybe a year ago. Right now he seems fully emerged.
   2. Tubbs & Minnie Miñoso don't fear Sid Monge Posted: May 29, 2014 at 08:35 AM (#4715164)
I remember watching the televised game of Donaldson hitting his first career home run for the 2010 A's against the Jays in Toronto. The TV crews showed where his teammates did the thing where they ignore you after your first home run, then Gabe Gross surprised him with a big bear hug. Other than the homer, Donaldson struggled in his first call up & the A's seemed content to keep Suzuki as their starting catcher and "fleet footed" Landon Powell as back up. I figured Donaldson was AAAA talent & I may have seen what would be his only career longball. I would have never guessed he'd wind up being the team's starting third baseman & a MVP candidate. He finally filled the post-Eric Chavez black hole at third.
   3. boteman Posted: May 29, 2014 at 10:55 AM (#4715217)
Who IS Josh Donaldson??
   4. Yoenis Cespedes, Baseball Savant Posted: May 29, 2014 at 11:12 AM (#4715239)
Ask Joe Nathan.
   5. RoyalsRetro (AG#1F) Posted: May 29, 2014 at 11:24 AM (#4715257)
Never even heard of this guy.
   6. Shooty Survived the Shutdown of '14! Posted: May 29, 2014 at 11:27 AM (#4715264)
I was shocked to see he's leading the voting at 3rd base. I guess he's not under the radar anymore, though I suspect Cabrera's move to 1st base has a lot to do with it.
   7. A triple short of the cycle Posted: May 29, 2014 at 11:33 AM (#4715271)
I almost hope J.D. does not make the All-Star team. I think the A's thrive on lack of respect.
   8. JE (Jason) Posted: May 29, 2014 at 11:35 AM (#4715276)
Is there currently a better left side of the infield in the bigs than Donaldson and Lowrie?
   9. Mark Armour Posted: May 29, 2014 at 11:40 AM (#4715286)
The guys in Denver are pretty good.
   10. Danny Posted: May 29, 2014 at 11:43 AM (#4715288)
Cabrera moving back to 1B certainly helped, but I'm still surprised he's ahead of Longoria. Last year's voting:

1. Miguel Cabrera, Tigers, 8,013,874
2. Manny Machado, Orioles, 4,101,089
3. Adrian Beltre, Rangers, 2,330,907
4. Evan Longoria, Rays, 1,906,184
5. Josh Donaldson, Athletics, 1,139,931

Donaldson has some crazy clutch splits for his career thus far:

Bases empty: .237/.307/.404 (680 PA)
Runners on: .329/.410/.563 (554 PA)

Low leverage: .256/.332/.424 (597 PA)
High leverage: .350/.410/.586 (234 PA)
   11. Chris Fluit Posted: May 29, 2014 at 11:53 AM (#4715300)
Cabrera is at first, Machado and Beltre have both been hurt and the Rays are struggling even if Longoria is not, opening up a window for Donaldson. Not saying he doesn't deserve it because he clearly does.
   12. theboyqueen Posted: May 29, 2014 at 12:24 PM (#4715332)
Never even heard of this guy.


Seriously?
   13. RoyalsRetro (AG#1F) Posted: May 29, 2014 at 12:30 PM (#4715338)
Never even heard of this guy.


Seriously?


Is he related to Yordano Ventura?
   14. SoSHially Unacceptable Posted: May 29, 2014 at 12:46 PM (#4715357)

I was shocked to see he's leading the voting at 3rd base. I guess he's not under the radar anymore.


That's nothing. Charlie Blackmon is the leading vote-getter among NL outfielders.

Yes, that Charlie Blackmon.

   15. dr. scott Posted: May 29, 2014 at 12:47 PM (#4715359)
Donaldson has some crazy clutch splits for his career thus far:


this must explain why he was not so good in 2010 and 2011... A's were never on base those years.

Speaking of all star voting I'm a bit surprised with the leaders so far. lots of people in 1st place who I assumed to be relative unknowns to most fans, and the people who are well known that are ranked at the top seem to deserve it... though I guess there is little chance of A. Ramirez overtaking captain retirement.
   16. Don Malcolm Posted: May 29, 2014 at 12:48 PM (#4715364)
Never even heard of this guy.


Too busy obsessing over Moustakas, eh??

Donaldson has some crazy clutch splits for his career thus far:

Bases empty: .237/.307/.404 (680 PA)
Runners on: .329/.410/.563 (554 PA)

Low leverage: .256/.332/.424 (597 PA)
High leverage: .350/.410/.586 (234 PA)


Very intriguing, Danny. For guys with >1000 lifetime PAs, that's the biggest uptick from bases empty/men on to be found in the Play Index. Next is Kevin Youkilis. (We'll let bobm post a list if he's so inclined; he's so much better at it.)

It's doubtful that this will hold up at this level over a full career, but it's impressive nonetheless.
   17. dr. scott Posted: May 29, 2014 at 12:59 PM (#4715373)
It's doubtful that this will hold up at this level over a full career, but it's impressive nonetheless.


exactly, eventually he has to get better in low leverage bases empty situations....
   18. snapper (history's 42nd greatest monster) Posted: May 29, 2014 at 01:31 PM (#4715400)
and the Rays are struggling even if Longoria is not

Longoria has a 100 OPS+. He's struggling too.
   19. Dale Sams Posted: May 29, 2014 at 01:36 PM (#4715403)
Wait. When does Brandon Moss get his article?
   20. A triple short of the cycle Posted: May 29, 2014 at 01:44 PM (#4715410)
He is also leading the A.L. in defensive WAR. Does the large foul territory at the Coliseum give him a unique advantage there?
   21. snapper (history's 42nd greatest monster) Posted: May 29, 2014 at 01:49 PM (#4715415)
He is also leading the A.L. in defensive WAR. Does the large foul territory at the Coliseum give him a unique advantage there?

I wouldn't over-analyzed a 50 G sample of defensive stats.
   22. Shooty Survived the Shutdown of '14! Posted: May 29, 2014 at 01:52 PM (#4715419)
I wouldn't over-analyzed a 50 G sample of defensive stats.

His #'s with the glove last year were excellent, too. He passes the eye-test, as well. He's pretty slick out there. In fact, when he took over from Brandon Inge--an excellent glove--I thought he was even better than Inge. It's too bad he wasted so much time behind the plate.
   23. snapper (history's 42nd greatest monster) Posted: May 29, 2014 at 01:54 PM (#4715423)
His #'s with the glove last year were excellent, too. He passes the eye-test, as well. He's pretty slick out there. In fact, when he took over from Brandon Inge--an excellent glove--I thought he was even better than Inge. It's too bad he wasted so much time behind the plate.

Oh, I think he's good. I just don't think he's "Best defensive player in MLB" good.
   24. dr. scott Posted: May 29, 2014 at 01:56 PM (#4715425)
there is a great GIF somewhere of all the over the rain tarp catches JD has made in the coliseum that would have been well in the seats in most parks. I'm not sure how defensive metrics deal with that. On one hand very few fielders could make those plays, on the other hand most fielders don't get the opportunity. Are there park factors in defensive metrics?

found it...

http://www.cbssports.com/mlb/eye-on-baseball/23511331/gif-josh-donaldson-repeat-tarp-offender

good stuff.
   25. Lance Reddick! Lance him! Posted: May 29, 2014 at 01:59 PM (#4715427)
Popups are ignored for the purposes of calculating infield defensive numbers.
   26. Shooty Survived the Shutdown of '14! Posted: May 29, 2014 at 02:02 PM (#4715429)
"Best defensive player in MLB"

Yeah, Machado is better (when healthy), for one. Donaldson is excellent, though.
   27. Fred Lynn Nolan Ryan Sweeney Agonistes Posted: May 29, 2014 at 02:08 PM (#4715438)
Who IS Josh Donaldson??

Wow, sorry, got in late here...
*ahem*
JOSHDONALDSONisYOUR2014almvp

Popups are ignored for the purposes of calculating infield defensive numbers.

See, that's weird; I know Bill James studied it & found no relation between 3b skill & 3b putouts, but Donaldson (and Chavez before him) seems to take away a lot of outs other 3b wouldn't get to.
The Oakland team has had a nice little run of long-term third basemen: Bando, Lansford, Chavez, and now Donaldson. (Wayne Gross was decent, but not in this class)

Finally, this is excellent.
   28. boteman Posted: May 29, 2014 at 02:56 PM (#4715518)
#27 - Well, it's about friggin time! That's the last time I put it up on a tee for you like that!
   29. Dan Posted: May 29, 2014 at 07:48 PM (#4715774)
Yeah, Machado is better (when healthy), for one. Donaldson is excellent, though.


He was before tearing up his knee, anyway. We'll see if he's lost any range on a reconstructed knee.

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