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Trade Deadline Catch-All Tread

Los Angeles El Hombre of Anaheim Posted: July 26, 2018 at 03:22 PM | 218 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
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   1. Los Angeles El Hombre of Anaheim Posted: July 26, 2018 at 01:18 PM (#5716368)
WHI WILL THE ANGELS TRADE TODAY?!

Martin Maldonado goes to Houston.
   2. Zonk is One Individual Posted: July 26, 2018 at 01:24 PM (#5716372)
Sounds like Joakim Soria is on his way to Milwaukee...
   3. Bourbon Samurai, what price fettucine? Posted: July 26, 2018 at 01:35 PM (#5716381)
I am pretty ready for the Nats to sell. This is a los tcause of a year. They don't need future stars, but they desperately need some depth.
   4. Zonk is One Individual Posted: July 26, 2018 at 01:47 PM (#5716391)
I am pretty ready for the Nats to sell. This is a los tcause of a year. They don't need future stars, but they desperately need some depth.


So where do you land on Harper out of curiosity?

   5. JJ1986 Posted: July 26, 2018 at 01:49 PM (#5716392)
I feel like there's going to be no one left to be traded next week. Everyone's getting moved right now.
   6. Master of the Horse Posted: July 26, 2018 at 01:51 PM (#5716394)
LHP Kodi Medeiros and RHP Wilber Pérez for Soria. Guess the Crew thinks it can get a lead and start using relievers by like the 5th inning? It's the getting the lead thing I don't see happening very much lately
   7. Master of the Horse Posted: July 26, 2018 at 01:55 PM (#5716399)
I feel like there's going to be no one left to be traded next week. Everyone's getting moved right now

The Brewers are going on a 8 game trip to SF and LA. They could easily be done and buried by the time it ends. If I am Stearns I am looking for help now instead of waiting.
   8. Hank Gillette Posted: July 26, 2018 at 02:04 PM (#5716405)
I am pretty ready for the Nats to sell. This is a los tcause of a year. They don't need future stars, but they desperately need some depth.


They are seven out with 61 games left. If their players played at their capabilities, they could make that up. I realize that that is a big if.

This reminds me of 2015, when Harper and Scherzer were great, but everyone else played as though they were in a daze, except this year Harper has caught the malaise too.
   9. , Posted: July 26, 2018 at 02:11 PM (#5716410)
If the Nats are sellers, do they sell Harper?
   10. Master of the Horse Posted: July 26, 2018 at 02:24 PM (#5716415)
If the Nats are sellers, do they sell Harper?

Sorry if people talked about this but I found it hilarious. Courtesy The Athletic--

6. Who is the most overrated player in the game?
Top result: Bryce Harper (48.6%)


Notes: Even anonymously, just over half of the players we polled declined to answer this one — “It’s bad karma,” one said — but among those who did, this was a landslide. As one player told us, it’s not that Harper isn’t talented: “It’s more like guys are kind of tired of him being put up on this pedestal when from a consistency standpoint, he hasn’t sustained it.”
   11. Kiko Sakata Posted: July 26, 2018 at 02:26 PM (#5716419)
If the Nats are sellers, do they sell Harper?


Doesn't it really only make sense for the Nats to be sellers if the selling includes Bryce Harper? If they're ready to concede the division (which they shouldn't be, in my opinion) surely they want to get some compensation for Harper. Of course, the problem there is what are folks likely to be willing to give the Nats in exchange for two months from a guy who's batting .216 this season?
   12. Rally Posted: July 26, 2018 at 02:29 PM (#5716421)
If they're ready to concede the division (which they shouldn't be, in my opinion) surely they want to get some compensation for Harper. Of course, the problem there is what are folks likely to be willing to give the Nats in exchange for two months from a guy who's batting .216 this season?


They'll get compensation, it will be a draft pick. If they are ready to punt 2018, question is whether someone offers something worth more than that pick for 2 months of a player (while also paying the last ~7 million of his salary.)
   13. My name is Votto, and I love to get blotto Posted: July 26, 2018 at 02:36 PM (#5716426)
Of course, the problem there is what are folks likely to be willing to give the Nats in exchange for two months from a guy who's batting .216 this season?


This really is crazy, he's hitting .216 while leading the league in homers and walks.
   14. Tom Nawrocki Posted: July 26, 2018 at 02:37 PM (#5716428)
J.A. Happ to the Yankees for Billy McKinney and Brandon Drury.
   15. Crispix Attacksel Rios Posted: July 26, 2018 at 02:43 PM (#5716434)
NL leaders in walks

80 Bryce Harper (.216 .363 .475)
79 Joey Votto (.281 .419 .427)
78 Carlos Santana (.215 .355 .407)
65 Justin Bour (.236 .359 .415)
62 Cesar Hernandez (.265 .370 .373)
61 Matt Carpenter (.275 .384 .579)
   16. Misirlou doesn't live in the restaurant Posted: July 26, 2018 at 02:45 PM (#5716435)
This really is crazy, he's hitting .216 while leading the league in homers and walks.


Harper: 25 HR, 80 BB, 110 K, .216 BA

Joey Gallo: 25 HR, 55 BB, 138 K, .190 BA.

Yes, Harper's numbers are better than Gallo's, and Harper is a better player. But according to at least one prominent poster here, Harper is a superstar who should get a superstar contract next year, while Gallo is an oafish clod who should be run out of the league.
   17. You Know Nothing JT Snow (YR) Posted: July 26, 2018 at 02:46 PM (#5716436)
J.A. Happ to the Yankees for Billy McKinney and Brandon Drury.


Wish the best to both those guys, Drury especially got the fuzzy end of he lollipop with some bad timing for a medical issue. He's good enough to start on a decent team so I hope he'll do well in Toronto.
   18. rconn23 Posted: July 26, 2018 at 02:47 PM (#5716437)
I'm not the world's biggest Happ fan, but the prevailing wisdom seems to be the Yankees gave up too much in Drury to get him. I don't get that at all. He's got the years of control, sure, but he's a pretty average player.
   19. Kiko Sakata Posted: July 26, 2018 at 02:48 PM (#5716439)
This really is crazy, he's hitting .216 while leading the league in homers and walks.


You know what's even crazier? According to Baseball-Reference, the guy who leads the NL in homers and walks is 17th (tied for 16th to the one decimal point they show, but when you sort this table by WAR, Harper is the 17th name on the list) on his own (underachieving) team in WAR.
   20. McCoy Posted: July 26, 2018 at 02:48 PM (#5716440)
Bryce Harper to the Angels for David Fletcher, Jo Adell, and Brandon Marsh.
   21. The Yankee Clapper Posted: July 26, 2018 at 02:48 PM (#5716441)
J.A. Happ to the Yankees for Billy McKinney and Brandon Drury.

Not too high a price for some much-needed pitching depth, although Happ hasn't looked that great lately. Perhaps the Magic of Pinstripes™ will work out yet again, but I think the Yanks will have to hope that Severino, Tanaka & Sabathia can shoulder most of the playoff starts.
   22. Misirlou doesn't live in the restaurant Posted: July 26, 2018 at 02:57 PM (#5716450)
J.A. Happ to the Yankees for Billy McKinney and Brandon Drury.


Tying this into the Dugout thread, the Jays will be McKinney's 4th organization, having played in the majors for only one.
   23. Bote Man Posted: July 26, 2018 at 03:09 PM (#5716458)
So where do you land on Harper out of curiosity?

Bryce Harper, in Seattle, with the lead pipe.
   24. Bote Man Posted: July 26, 2018 at 03:12 PM (#5716461)
Jeff Passan @JeffPassan
Sources: The Washington Nationals have started discussions with teams to gauge interest if they decide to sell. Of particular interest are Kelvin Herrera, Shawn Kelley and Ryan Madson, three free-agent-to-be relievers. Nats are telling teams they’ll know by end of weekend.

It’s worth noting explicitly: The Nationals have not decided to sell. They’re doing what any prudent team in their position would: getting a sense of the market so if they do decide to sell, they can put together deals in 24 hours that normally take days. It’s the right play.


You KNOW "Sources" are trustworthy.
   25. Zonk is One Individual Posted: July 26, 2018 at 03:13 PM (#5716462)
They'll get compensation, it will be a draft pick. If they are ready to punt 2018, question is whether someone offers something worth more than that pick for 2 months of a player (while also paying the last ~7 million of his salary.)


Meh - it would be something like a 60th overall pick.

They can do better than that trading him, even with his crap season.
   26. Zonk is One Individual Posted: July 26, 2018 at 03:16 PM (#5716465)
With (JA) Happ going to the Bronx, the Cubs are supposedly talking to Texas about Cole Hamels...

Given that his once bargain deal is now the opposite of a bargain (and even the buyout runs 6 million), seems like he really shouldn't cost all that much in terms of pieces going the other way.
   27. Count Vorror Rairol Mencoon (CoB) Posted: July 26, 2018 at 03:23 PM (#5716469)

Meh - it would be something like a 60th overall pick.


Actually, according to this article in The Ringer it would be much lower than that:


If the Nationals keep Harper through the rest of 2018 and extend him a qualifying offer, only for him to sign elsewhere, they won’t receive much in return. Because their payroll crosses the luxury-tax threshold this season, their compensation for losing Harper would be a pick after the fourth round. In this June’s draft, that selection would’ve been 135th overall, which is well past the point at which future top prospects are regularly available.


So yeah, trading Harper is almost certainly a guarantee of a better return ...
   28. What did Billy Ripken have against ElRoy Face? Posted: July 26, 2018 at 03:24 PM (#5716470)
The Washington Nationals have started discussions with teams to gauge interest if they decide to sell. Of particular interest are Kelvin Herrera, Shawn Kelley and Ryan Madson, three free-agent-to-be relievers.
'Tis but a temporary setback, a speedbump in Mike Rizzo's plan to corner the market on every relief pitcher in baseball.
   29. catomi01 Posted: July 26, 2018 at 03:30 PM (#5716475)
You know what's even crazier? According to Baseball-Reference, the guy who leads the NL in homers and walks is 17th (tied for 16th to the one decimal point they show, but when you sort this table by WAR, Harper is the 17th name on the list) on his own (underachieving) team in WAR.


A lot of that is due to some pretty bad defense according to BBREF...so why (and I'm asking because I wasn't even aware they had done so) are they playing him in Center and Eaton in RF lately? I haven't paid much attention to NL ball recently, but wasn't Eaton supposed to be pretty solid in the OF? Injuries, or has he lost a step?
   30. Zonk is One Individual Posted: July 26, 2018 at 03:30 PM (#5716476)
Actually, according to this article in The Ringer it would be much lower than that:


Ah - didn't realize they were over the luxury tax. Yikes.
   31. Khrushin it bro Posted: July 26, 2018 at 03:31 PM (#5716477)
Bryce Harper to the Angels for David Fletcher, Jo Adell, and Brandon Marsh.


Please do this Angels,

signed (A's fan)
   32. Rally Posted: July 26, 2018 at 03:39 PM (#5716483)
but wasn't Eaton supposed to be pretty solid in the OF? Injuries, or has he lost a step?


injuries.

Actually, according to this article in The Ringer it would be much lower than that:


I knew the rules changed, but didn't realize the comp would be that low for a guy guaranteed to turn down the QO and sign a contract over 50 million.
   33. PreservedFish Posted: July 26, 2018 at 03:39 PM (#5716484)
I haven't paid much attention to NL ball recently, but wasn't Eaton supposed to be pretty solid in the OF? Injuries, or has he lost a step?


Eaton appears to be an excellent corner outfielder and a miserable centerfielder. Not sure how that's true exactly.
   34. You Know Nothing JT Snow (YR) Posted: July 26, 2018 at 03:41 PM (#5716486)
I knew the rules changed, but didn't realize the comp would be that low for a guy guaranteed to turn down the QO and sign a contract over 50 million.


"You should have thought about that before you offered players fair market rates for their services. Mwahaha!"
   35. , Posted: July 26, 2018 at 03:45 PM (#5716488)
The question in my mind is: are the Nats going to make a serious play for Harper?

Is it settled he'll move on? I'd think with the bad year, they have a chance at keeping him long term. Whether they want to or not is a different question.
   36. The Anthony Kennedy of BBTF (Scott) Posted: July 26, 2018 at 03:45 PM (#5716489)
I'm pleased that the Yankees picked up Happ. He's been getting crushed recently and did not look good at all against the Sox.

Now watch him go all 2005 Aaron Small.
   37. Bote Man Posted: July 26, 2018 at 03:49 PM (#5716490)
are the Nats going to make a serious play for Harper?

If history is any guide, the Nats will make an offer that Harper is almost certain to turn down, then they will tell their fans, "We tried".
   38. PreservedFish Posted: July 26, 2018 at 03:54 PM (#5716493)
If history is any guide, the Nats will make an offer that Harper is almost certain to turn down, then they will tell their fans, "We tried".


When have they done that before?
   39. jmurph Posted: July 26, 2018 at 04:03 PM (#5716497)
Yeah I was just thinking they've shelled out some big money in the last few years. Granted, they seem to backload a lot of it?

My prediction is Harper stays in Washington, and it's done relatively quickly, for huge money but not crazy years. 5/190 or some such.
   40. My name is Votto, and I love to get blotto Posted: July 26, 2018 at 04:08 PM (#5716499)
I haven't paid much attention to NL ball recently, but wasn't Eaton supposed to be pretty solid in the OF? Injuries, or has he lost a step?


Eaton missed about two months with an ankle injury earlier this season.
   41. Kiko Sakata Posted: July 26, 2018 at 04:10 PM (#5716501)
My prediction is Harper stays in Washington, and it's done relatively quickly, for huge money but not crazy years. 5/190 or some such.


The Nats trading Harper this week and the Nats signing Harper as a free agent this winter aren't necessarily mutually exclusive. It would probably he helpful for the Nats to give Harper a heads-up that they're shopping him while also telling him they'd like to re-sign him in the offseason. But both could happen.

Not nearly as high-profile a player, of course, but the Cubs did this with Jason Hammel in 2014 - traded him (and Jeff Samardzija) for Addison Russell in July, signed him as a free agent in December.
   42. Spahn Insane Posted: July 26, 2018 at 04:20 PM (#5716505)
Perhaps the Magic of Pinstripes™ will work out yet again

Which is the stronger force--Magic of Pinstripes™, or Can't Pitch in New York™?
   43. Zonk is One Individual Posted: July 26, 2018 at 04:36 PM (#5716512)
Which is the stronger force--Magic of Pinstripes™, or Can't Pitch in New York™?


I didn't hear the question over the screams of the Carl Pavano voodoo doll I'm sticking pins into...
   44. Bourbon Samurai, what price fettucine? Posted: July 26, 2018 at 05:08 PM (#5716528)
So where do you land on Harper out of curiosity?


i can't imagine the owners would allow them to trade him, but I'd think you could restock some depth by trading off Gonzalez, Murphy, and the relievers.

I don't know what to do about Harper. I've never quite seen a player who gets so utterly, thoroughly out of whack
   45. Kiko Sakata Posted: July 26, 2018 at 09:24 PM (#5716617)
Supposedly the Cubs have acquired Cole Hamels from Texas pending a physical. I haven't seen the return. The rumor mill had the return being pretty low-level prospects. Hamel's pretty clearly better than Tyler Chatwood, so this seems like an upgrade for the Cubs.
   46. Walt Davis Posted: July 26, 2018 at 10:16 PM (#5716641)
Supposedly the Cubs have acquired Cole Hamels from Texas pending a physical. I haven't seen the return. The rumor mill had the return being pretty low-level prospects. Hamel's pretty clearly better than Tyler Chatwood, so this seems like an upgrade for the Cubs.

Will be interesting to see the money. Owed about $8 for the rest of this year with a $20 M option with $6 M buyout. Often the old team picks up some/all of the buyout if the option isn't picked up by the new team. If the Cubs are picking up all of it, there better not be anything remotely useful going back.

Alas, Hamels ERA has done a good job of catching up to his FIP this year and he's at just 99 ERA+. But the issue is the massive HR rate of 1.8/9 so if the Cubs can somehow fix that, his other peripherals look good. If they can't fix that, the results may not be much better than Chatwood but at least he won't average a walk an inning and should be able to give us an extra half-inning per start. If they can fix it, he might be worth exercising the option (depending on how that affects any money coming from the Rangers).
   47. Edmundo got dem ol' Kozma blues again mama Posted: July 26, 2018 at 10:39 PM (#5716653)
WHO WILL MATT KLENTAK NOT ACQUIRE TODAY?
   48. Howie Menckel Posted: July 26, 2018 at 10:48 PM (#5716657)
Hamels 10.23 ERA last 31 days, xERA of 4.17

season, 4.72 vs 4.07

so I'm saying there's a chance

Chatwood's xERA of 5.66 is even worse than his 4.74 ERA

he's - well, he's not good
   49. Moses Taylor, aka Hambone Fakenameington Posted: July 27, 2018 at 06:13 AM (#5716679)
It's also been pointed out that Hamels has been much better on the road than at home - 6.41ERA vs 2.93 and he's given up 16HRs at home and only 7 on the road - so there's some hope that a change of scenery benefits him some.

The bar is low here - be less bad than Chatwood - with a slim chance of something better than that.
   50. spycake Posted: July 27, 2018 at 07:32 AM (#5716692)
Hamels 10.23 ERA last 31 days,


4 unearned runs in that time too, so his RA9 is 11.86. Batters hitting .370/.413/.630 off him, for a 1.043 OPS.
   51. Kiko Sakata Posted: July 27, 2018 at 12:31 PM (#5716872)
It's also been pointed out that Hamels has been much better on the road than at home - 6.41ERA vs 2.93 and he's given up 16HRs at home and only 7 on the road - so there's some hope that a change of scenery benefits him some.


This was one of the big selling points on Tyler Chatwood in the offseason. He was something like fourth in the NL in road ERA in 2016 and/or 2017.

Apparently, the Hamels trade is final. The Cubs are giving up Rollie Lacy (Class A RHP) and Eddie Butler (MLB RHP) and the Rangers are also giving the Cubs some cash.
   52. Master of the Horse Posted: July 27, 2018 at 12:47 PM (#5716881)
FWIW Cards, Reds and Crew all have problems with left handed pitching.
   53. Zonk is One Individual Posted: July 27, 2018 at 12:50 PM (#5716884)
As noted in Gonfalon - though, I had heard DJ Wilson, not Butler, originally - I like this deal. Scary last month aside, a guy like Hamels is the best the Cubs could do without breaking up the lineup/bench (and I opposed doing that... even for a DeGrom type).

Rollie Lacy got a breakout tag this year - and how can you not love a pitcher named Rollie - but the fact is that he was a 23 yo who broke out at low A. That said - college senior last year (11th rounder) - and who knows, sometimes guys get overlooked. He got a couple starts at high A before the trade that weren't terrible, but weren't nearly as impressive as at South Bend either. Butler was a decent enough 12th/13th pitcher - but I think he's also out of options and even with the Cubs problems, he's still a 12th/13th pitcher.

That plus 5 million dollars (plus another 6 if the Cubs buy out the option) to see if he can pull a Verlander* is an excellent deal.

*To be clear, also repeating from Gonfalon - Verlander was better than Hamels at peak, Verlander actually didn't fall nearly as fall from his heights - especially if you look at his advanced numbers rather than just ERA/W-L. I'm just saying... 34 yo one-time star now thought to be badly overpaid. Sometimes those guys rejuvenate. Indeed - two years ago, I think people might have said Hamels at an outside shot at HoF consideration. The last year and a half/2 years quieted that - but he wouldn't be the first guy who makes those mid-30s adjustments and then carves out another half-decade of usefulness. That's upside wishing - I grant... but it would be pretty awesome if Hamels goes all Doyle Alexander for the Cubs and end up picking up his option.
   54. Perry Posted: July 27, 2018 at 03:01 PM (#5716975)
Cardinals have overhauled their pen today, including one trade, Tuivalala to Seattle for a minor league pitcher. Also Holland and Lyons DFA'd, Cecil DL'd, and Weaver, Hudson, Poncedeleon, Webb called up.
   55. Master of the Horse Posted: July 27, 2018 at 04:03 PM (#5717019)
   56. Count Vorror Rairol Mencoon (CoB) Posted: July 27, 2018 at 06:14 PM (#5717105)

The Diamondbacks have reportedly struck a deal with the Twins that would send infielder Eduardo Escobar to Arizona. Ken Rosenthal and Dan Hayes of The Athletic (Twitter link) reported an agreement was close, while Jon Heyman of Fancred tweets that there is in fact a deal in place.

In return, the Twins will get three Class A ballplayers in the deal, Jeff Passan of Yahoo Sports tweets. Righty Jhoan Duran and outfielders Ernie De La Trinidad and Gabriel Maciel are all going to Minnesota. John Gambadoro of Arizona Sports 98.7 had tweeted that a trio of minor-leaguers would go to the Twins in the deal.


MLBTR
   57. Yonder Alonso in misguided trousers (cardinal) Posted: July 27, 2018 at 06:53 PM (#5717135)
The Phillies have agreed to acquire infielder Asdrubal Cabrera from the Mets, according to Andy Martino of SNY.tv (Twitter link). Righty Franklyn Kilome is heading to New York in return, per Ken Rosenthal of The Athletic (via Twitter).


According to MLBTR. I didn't really expect the Phillies as his destination, but sure, whatever. I also assume the return is not very good, but that's based on nothing but this being the Mets.
   58. Los Angeles El Hombre of Anaheim Posted: July 27, 2018 at 06:58 PM (#5717138)
The Diamondbacks have reportedly struck a deal with the Twins that would send infielder Eduardo Escobar to Arizona
Escobar's going to blow up in Arizona. His next contract is gonna be a big one.
   59. Zonk is One Individual Posted: July 27, 2018 at 07:27 PM (#5717156)
According to MLBTR. I didn't really expect the Phillies as his destination, but sure, whatever. I also assume the return is not very good, but that's based on nothing but this being the Mets.


Actually, that's a pretty nice return for Cabrera... The shine is very much off Kilome as he's kind of stalled out at AA, particularly with the BBs jumping, but a year or two ago - he was a fairly well thought of prospect. He just turned 23 - so he's still got time, but he'll need to be added to the 40 man roster or be rule 5 eligible this offseason (and his arm is probably good enough that someone would take a flier on him).

Better than they got for Familia, at least.
   60. Howie Menckel Posted: July 27, 2018 at 08:03 PM (#5717177)
many MLB teams have a "family trip" during the season whereby loved ones fly on the plane with the players as sort of a bonding thing.

the Mets being the Mets, they took off for Pittsburgh yesterday morning for a 4-game series with the Pirates. July 26-29, what could go wrong?

so just before tonight's game, Mets radio guys said Cabrera and his entire family were trying to figure out if they should join him in Cincinnati where Phillies are playing) or just go home.

quite the "first-world problem," as they say on Twitter - but Mets, don't ever stop doing you.
   61. PepTech, the Legendary Posted: July 27, 2018 at 10:37 PM (#5717235)
Has anyone made the obligatory "Happless Blue Jays" joke yet? Just wondering.
   62. Davo and his Moose Tacos Posted: July 28, 2018 at 12:07 AM (#5717259)
The Diamondbacks have reportedly struck a deal with the Twins that would send infielder Eduardo Escobar to Arizona

EE over the last calendar year: .261/.321/.496, 27 homers, 44 doubles, 103 RBIs. I don't know where the hell that came from, but it's here!
   63. asinwreck Posted: July 28, 2018 at 12:40 AM (#5717265)
Mike Moustakas is reportedly going to Milwaukee for outfielder Brett Phillips and pitcher Jorge Lopez.
   64. Davo and his Moose Tacos Posted: July 28, 2018 at 10:01 AM (#5717304)
Apparently, the Brewers will be moving Travis Shaw to second base (so Moustakas can play third. Shaw has never played there as a pro, so, could be fun.)
   65. Edmundo got dem ol' Kozma blues again mama Posted: July 28, 2018 at 10:30 AM (#5717309)
WHO WILL MATT KLENTAK NOT ACQUIRE TODAY?


OK, Asdrubal is an interesting pickup. Kilome has lost shine as noted above, might end up in relief.

The Phils are totaling punting defense. The only logical place for Asdrubal is SS. The left side of the defense will be something to marvel at: Hoskins in left, Franco at third and Cabrera at short, when he plays there.

There is some talk to put Cesar Hernandez on the DL to let his foot heal up. He missed a couple of games after fouling a pitch off his foot, and still keeps doing it, so maybe a 10 day rest would help. He'd be a reasonable DH if by some whims of the gods, the Phils would make it to the World Series. There, I said it!
   66. Zach Posted: July 28, 2018 at 01:28 PM (#5717352)
Best of luck to Moustakas, who was always a gung-ho guy for the Royals.

Seems like a fairly minor return, but both of these guys will spend a few years in the major leagues.

You can't expect that much in return for a guy who drew very little interest on the free agent market last offseason.
   67. Davo and his Moose Tacos Posted: July 28, 2018 at 01:47 PM (#5717358)
Phillips is an elite defender in center at least, right? It’ll be fun to have one of those again! (Even if he strikes out 250 times. Nobody’s perfect.)
   68. Zach Posted: July 28, 2018 at 01:58 PM (#5717360)
Well, that certainly puts a better face on things.
   69. Zach Posted: July 28, 2018 at 02:02 PM (#5717361)
Elite defense, contact skills, and baserunning are about the least sabery parts of baseball that actually show up in the final score. But they sure do make the game easier to watch.
   70. Ziggy's screen name Posted: July 28, 2018 at 07:33 PM (#5717507)
if Hamels goes all Doyle Alexander


If you're a Cubs fan you might try looking for another trade to compare this one to.
   71. Pops Freshenmeyer Posted: July 28, 2018 at 09:43 PM (#5717545)
It's better than Hamels going Ernie Broglio.
   72. The Yankee Clapper Posted: July 28, 2018 at 11:16 PM (#5717570)
Coley Harvey, ESPN Staff Writer

Another trade for the Yankees. Tonight they dealt left-handed reliever Chasen Shreve and right-handed reliever Giovanny Gallegos to St. Louis in exchange for first baseman Luke Voit and international signing bonus pool money.

Not seeing much here, other than addition by subtraction. Volt wouldn't seem to be a better option than Tyler Austin, now at AAA Scranton, should anything happen to Greg Bird. Perhaps there's something in the works to put that roster room to use, but this deal seems like small potatoes.
   73. greenback slays lewks Posted: July 28, 2018 at 11:38 PM (#5717574)
Apparently the international cap thing is important to the Yankees.
   74. The Yankee Clapper Posted: July 29, 2018 at 02:08 AM (#5717590)
Subsequent reports indicate that a healthy $1,000,000 in international bonus pool money is included, apparently to be directed to the Yankees signing Cuban pitching prospect Osiel Rodriguez. The kid is only 16 but highly regarded.
   75. Lassus Posted: July 29, 2018 at 08:25 AM (#5717604)
Re: #65, I've been under the impression Cabrera has not actually been bad at SS while with the Mets.
   76. Davo and his Moose Tacos Posted: July 29, 2018 at 11:03 AM (#5717629)
It just occurred to me that this means Mike Moustakas and Lorenzo Cain are teammates again.

Now they just gotta pick Alcides Escobar and Greg Holland off the waiver wire. Get the whole crew back together!
   77. SoSH U at work Posted: July 29, 2018 at 11:22 AM (#5717637)
Now they just gotta pick Alcides Escobar and Greg Holland off the waiver wire. Get the whole crew back together!


Nah, they need to get Escobar and Odorizzi (neither of whom would be terribly difficult to pry away), and they'd have everyone they sent to KC in the Greinke deal.
   78. Tom Nawrocki Posted: July 29, 2018 at 11:44 AM (#5717641)
Sure, Carlos Febles would listen if the Royals called.
   79. Edmundo got dem ol' Kozma blues again mama Posted: July 29, 2018 at 12:35 PM (#5717646)
Re: #65, I've been under the impression Cabrera has not actually been bad at SS while with the Mets.


The talking heads in Philly were downplaying his ability to play short since he hadn't played a game there this year and wasn't a regular at SS last year. His numbers don't look that great for the Mets. But I hold out hope that your eyes are better than talk show hosts' guesses!
   80. The Yankee Clapper Posted: July 29, 2018 at 12:49 PM (#5717648)
The Yankees traded relief pitcher Caleb Frare, a guy I never heard of, to the White Sox for $1.5M in International Bonus Poll money. Frare wasn't on the Yanks Top 30 prospect list, but had a good year at AA Trenton and was just promoted to AAA Scranton. He's Rule 5 eligible this offseason, apparently without room to put him on the 40-man, so it appears Cashman was able to get something significant for a player he was likely to lose anyway.
   81. You Know Nothing JT Snow (YR) Posted: July 29, 2018 at 01:17 PM (#5717653)
So the Yankees added $2.5 million in international slave auction money in the last two days. They’ve been linked to some of the more heralded prospects already like Cuban pitcher Osiel Rodriguez and this will let them spread the money around while still targeting a handful of prime targets. Seems like a good use of 40-man fodder.
   82. Count Vorror Rairol Mencoon (CoB) Posted: July 29, 2018 at 03:56 PM (#5717689)
So the Yankees added $2.5 million in international slave auction money in the last two days. They’ve been linked to some of the more heralded prospects already like Cuban pitcher Osiel Rodriguez and this will let them spread the money around while still targeting a handful of prime targets. Seems like a good use of 40-man fodder.


Yankees also picked up an undisclosed amount of bonus pool money from the Brewers when they traded Chad Whitmer back in June. They're probably not too far from maxing out their potential allotment of $8,721,12 (they're at $7,483,500 + what they got from the Brewers).
   83. Andere Richtingen Posted: July 29, 2018 at 05:38 PM (#5717716)
If you're a Cubs fan you might try looking for another trade to compare this one to.

I served with John Smoltz. I knew John Smoltz. John Smoltz was a friend of mine. Senator, Rollie Lacy is no John Smoltz.
   84. Yonder Alonso in misguided trousers (cardinal) Posted: July 29, 2018 at 06:07 PM (#5717743)
Brad Brach goes from the Orioles to the Braves in return for... $250K international bonus pool money? That's it? Huh.
   85. Davo and his Moose Tacos Posted: July 29, 2018 at 08:44 PM (#5717782)
re: Brach, that was my first thought too. But I looked at his numbers and learned Brach has been trending downward the last few years, to the point that this year he’s been pretty blah (2:1 K:BB rate and a 4.01 FIP).

These days, guys like that grow on trees. And Atlanta is picking up the rest of his salary, and he’s a free agent in 2 months, so....I guess it makes sense.
   86. JJ1986 Posted: July 29, 2018 at 09:21 PM (#5717794)
so....I guess it makes sense.
It would for most teams, but the Orioles don't sign international players.
   87. The Yankee Clapper Posted: July 29, 2018 at 10:49 PM (#5717808)
It would for most teams, but the Orioles don't sign international players.

Supposedly, they may do some things differently going forward, or perhaps they may be looking to trade bonus pool money themselves in the future.
   88. Howie Menckel Posted: July 29, 2018 at 11:06 PM (#5717813)
Re: #65, I've been under the impression Cabrera has not actually been bad at SS while with the Mets.

good luck with that.
ACab can hit, for sure. and he's a good teammate. but putting him at SS won't end well.
when even the hapless Mets know that..........
   89. stevegamer Posted: July 30, 2018 at 01:33 AM (#5717833)
The Phillies have been playing Scott Kingery at SS a lot, and he doesn't pass the eye test for me. Plus, they are using Jesmuel Valentin as a super sub and pinch hitter, and Cabrera should upgrade that spot.
   90. Jose is an Absurd Force of Nature Posted: July 30, 2018 at 08:21 AM (#5717861)
The Yankees traded relief pitcher Caleb Frare, a guy I never heard of, to the White Sox for $1.5M in International Bonus Poll money. Frare wasn't on the Yanks Top 30 prospect list, but had a good year at AA Trenton and was just promoted to AAA Scranton. He's Rule 5 eligible this offseason, apparently without room to put him on the 40-man, so it appears Cashman was able to get something significant for a player he was likely to lose anyway.


That's a nice bit of GMing. I remember Theo Epstein turning a month of David Wells into George Kottaras. Yeah not earth shattering stuff but those kinds of moves are the ones where you just get a sense that your club is in good hands.

Sure, Carlos Febles would listen if the Royals called.


No no no. He's busy being the Red Sox third base coach and the way the season is going let's not mess with anything!
   91. The Interdimensional Council of Rickey!'s Posted: July 30, 2018 at 08:33 AM (#5717863)
Brad Brach goes from the Orioles to the Braves in return for... $250K international bonus pool money? That's it? Huh.


Anthopoulos has added two reasonably quality veteran arms - first Venters, now Brach - for literally nothing. The international slot money he's traded to Tampa and now Baltimore is useless to Atlanta, who are banned from signing internationals due to MLB's Coppalellagate penalties. No one is going to confuse Brach or Everyday Jonny with the shut down relievers they were 5-6 years ago, but both improve the Braves' pen without costing a single prospect in return.
   92. Howie Menckel Posted: July 30, 2018 at 09:13 AM (#5717874)
useless to Atlanta, who are banned from signing internationals due to MLB's Coppalellagate penalties.

um, if a team is banned from signing internationals, shouldn't they be barred from profiting from selling the bonus money?

MLB is a weird industry.
   93. The Interdimensional Council of Rickey!'s Posted: July 30, 2018 at 09:49 AM (#5717890)
if a team is banned from signing internationals, shouldn't they be barred from profiting from selling the bonus money?


Maybe, but they aren't. And technically, they're barred from spending over 100k on a player. Which effectively means they're not going to sign any player with any projections. So they trade those dollars to teams that can use them, in exchange for taking on player salary for folks like Brach.
   94. jacksone (AKA It's OK...) Posted: July 30, 2018 at 10:39 AM (#5717914)
Apparently, the Brewers will be moving Travis Shaw to second base (so Moustakas can play third. Shaw has never played there as a pro, so, could be fun.)


Why? This seems...not smart. Moustakas is a worse defender at 3rd than Shaw is (not to mention worse with the bat). Why move the better player?
   95. Zonk is One Individual Posted: July 30, 2018 at 10:55 AM (#5717920)
Why? This seems...not smart. Moustakas is a worse defender at 3rd than Shaw is (not to mention worse with the bat). Why move the better player?


I didn't understand why they traded for Yelich at the same time they signed Cain, while already having what seemed like a pretty solid OF in-house, with a couple decent OF prospects waiting in the wings. Yet, it's worked out extremely well for them.

So now, I no longer question their moves because the Brewers apparently live to say "I told you so".
   96. The Interdimensional Council of Rickey!'s Posted: July 30, 2018 at 11:00 AM (#5717922)
Moustakas is a worse defender at 3rd than Shaw is (not to mention worse with the bat). Why move the better player?


They need to fill the gaping chest wound at 2B. If they think Shaw can fake it (and Moose can't), they're better that way than running Jonathan Villar and Hernan Perez out there every day.
   97. Count Vorror Rairol Mencoon (CoB) Posted: July 30, 2018 at 07:03 PM (#5718169)
Yankees also picked up an undisclosed amount of bonus pool money from the Brewers when they traded Chad Whitmer back in June. They're probably not too far from maxing out their potential allotment of $8,721,12 (they're at $7,483,500 + what they got from the Brewers).


Yankees just traded Adam Warren to the Mariners for 1.25 million in international bonus money, which is a little ... odd.
   98. Count Vorror Rairol Mencoon (CoB) Posted: July 30, 2018 at 07:10 PM (#5718172)
Also going down:


4:46pm: Toronto has announced the trade. In addition to Giles, righties Hector Perez and David Paulino are going to the Blue Jays.

4:12pm: The Astros have struck a deal to acquire relief pitcher Roberto Osuna from the Blue Jays, according to Ken Rosenthal of The Athletic (via Twitter). Former Astros closer Ken Giles is heading to Toronto along with other assets, Rosenthal adds


MLBTR

Osuna will obviously be bringing some baggage along with his luggage when he crosses the border ...
   99. Count Vorror Rairol Mencoon (CoB) Posted: July 30, 2018 at 07:29 PM (#5718178)
Another Yankees trade: Tyler Austin and Luis Rijo to the Twins for Lance Lynn and cash (Twins eating 1/2 Lynn's remaining salary.

RAB
   100. The Yankee Clapper Posted: July 30, 2018 at 07:42 PM (#5718183)
Looks like International Bonus Pool money is a priority for the Yankees. A little surprised by the recent churn on the fringe of the roster, but a couple of international free agent signings panning out down the road could be significant since the Yankees may be picking near the end of the amateur draft for a while.
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