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True Grit: Walt Weiss will be demanding as Rockies’ new manager - The Denver Post

Who are the white-collar players?

“Walt was a blue-collar player, blue-collar all the way,” said former Rockies teammate Dante Bichette. “He showed up every day, ready to go to work. He was the ultimate professional.”

Jim Furtado Posted: November 11, 2012 at 08:30 AM | 20 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
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   1. Derb Posted: November 11, 2012 at 11:28 AM (#4300022)
Who are the white-collar players?


Yankees
   2. puck Posted: November 11, 2012 at 11:51 AM (#4300030)
Orel Hershiser.

Weiss cites LaRussa as his biggest influence, and also that he learned a lot about how to manage the clubhouse from Bobby Cox.
   3. Cooper Nielson Posted: November 11, 2012 at 12:23 PM (#4300045)
Aren't "blue-collar" and "professional" supposed to be antonyms?
   4. What did Billy Ripken have against ElRoy Face? Posted: November 11, 2012 at 02:08 PM (#4300098)
He showed up every day, ready to go to work.


I don't really get how this became a cliche. It would appear to set the bar rather low, no?
   5. Walt Davis Posted: November 11, 2012 at 03:42 PM (#4300137)
Aren't "blue-collar" and "professional" supposed to be antonyms?

Quiet, he's on a roll.
   6. RB in NYC (Now Semi-Retired from BBTF) Posted: November 11, 2012 at 05:12 PM (#4300211)
[Weiss'] road map comes from those men he played for during his 14-year big-league career — the Oakland A's Tony La Russa, the Florida Marlins' Rene Lachemann, the Rockies' Don Baylor and the Atlanta Braves' Bobby Cox.
For the sake of Rockies' fans, I hope he's more about LaRussa and Cox (combined 11 pennants, 4 titles) than Lachemann and Baylor (combined 4 seasons over .500, 8 years finishing 5th or worse).

Also, Baylor and Lachemann actually managed the same team, the 2002 Cubs! To the surprise of no one, they went 67-95!
   7. Cooper Nielson Posted: November 11, 2012 at 09:43 PM (#4300329)
Who are the white-collar players?

Grant Desme?
   8. valuearbitrageur Posted: November 11, 2012 at 10:58 PM (#4300380)
He expects his players to commit to their job the way he did.


Like they are playing on a 1 year contract?
   9. Pasta-diving Jeter (jmac66) Posted: November 11, 2012 at 11:16 PM (#4300385)
The only 2 things you can be in sports are blue collar and old school
   10. Walt Davis Posted: November 12, 2012 at 02:26 AM (#4300436)
Walt Weiss will be demanding as Rockies’ new manager

I demand you do what I say!

EDIT: And Grant Desme was well played.
   11. donlock Posted: November 12, 2012 at 10:47 AM (#4300520)
Which ML teams have uniforms with blue collars? Shouldn't they all?

Will Weiss change the Rocks' unis?

BTW, was Walt a "gamer"?
   12. Crispix reaches boiling point with lackluster play Posted: November 12, 2012 at 11:09 AM (#4300543)
Walt was a gamer, but perhaps not scrappy. He was pretty tall for a shortstop and I don't remember him ever coming off the bench.
   13. SoSH U at work Posted: November 12, 2012 at 11:15 AM (#4300549)
He was pretty tall for a shortstop and I don't remember him ever coming off the bench.


He never played any position other than shortstop in his big league career (hat tip to a recent Dugout quiz).

   14. Crispix reaches boiling point with lackluster play Posted: November 12, 2012 at 11:22 AM (#4300553)
Walt may be demanding as the manager, but he will probably have much demanded of him by the rejected suitors for the position who will still be serving as his coaches.
   15. Greg Pope thinks the Cubs are reeking havoc Posted: November 12, 2012 at 01:17 PM (#4300645)
Aren't "blue-collar" and "professional" supposed to be antonyms?

Aren't "blue-collar" and "made 19 million dollars" supposed to be antonyms?
   16. valuearbitrageur Posted: November 12, 2012 at 01:17 PM (#4300646)
Walt may be demanding as the manager, but he will probably have much demanded of him by the rejected suitors for the position who will still be serving as his coaches.


Great. Not only do they only give him a 1 year deal, but saddle him with a coaching staff full of likely potential replacements.

Are the Rockies the most innovative managerial organization in baseball? Just this year we had the experimental starting rotation, and now their Thunderdome style field manager incentive system.

I can't wait to read "Godball: How ancient biblical and gladiatorial principles led the Rockies back from mediocrity in a godless league".
   17. valuearbitrageur Posted: November 12, 2012 at 01:33 PM (#4300657)
Who are the white-collar players?


Yankees


Ahh, I totally missed this. "derb", what a blast from the past. The screen name of one of the most controversial high stakes poker players ever (back when Party Poker 30-60 was the highest of the high stakes), who provoked a raging nerd argument on what was statistically possible in limit holdem.

http://archives1.twoplustwo.com/showflat.php?Cat=0&Number=2300851&an=0&page=6
   18. Justin T's horse was fast as polished steel Posted: November 12, 2012 at 01:49 PM (#4300671)
I can't wait to read "Godball: How ancient biblical and gladiatorial principles led the Rockies back from mediocrity in a godless league".

...And Changed The World Forever.

Every book subtitle needs to indicate that.
   19. RoyalsRetro (AG#1F) Posted: November 12, 2012 at 03:09 PM (#4300746)

I can't wait to read "Godball: How ancient biblical and gladiatorial principles led the Rockies back from mediocrity in a godless league".


I know its beating a dead horse, but I love Bill Simmons idea of "Fourth and God: The Tim Tebow Story."
   20. puck Posted: November 12, 2012 at 07:00 PM (#4300916)
Are the Rockies the most innovative managerial organization in baseball?

I think it might be some sort of Costanza thing, where they do the opposite of everything they would have tried in the past. "Ground ball pitchers? Let's try fly ball pitchers."

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