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Wednesday, September 07, 2011

Trumbo a strong candidate for the AL Rookie of the Year

Only because…Johnny Giavotella got his pop gun!

Along with his 26 bombs, Trumbo has driven in 80 runs, collected 55 extra base hits and has a .486 slugging percentage percentage, leading the team in all four categories. And he came up with probably the Angels’ biggest hit of the season against the Rangers on August 18, when he slammed a two-run homer off reliever Mike Adams to give his team a 2-1 win, and keep them within six games of the leaders. Without the shot, LA is swept by Texas, falls eight games out, and likely says goodbye to any post-season participation. They’ve gone 12-6 since that win, cutting 2 1/2 games off the lead. Not bad for a guy who was about to become a platoon player when he was struggling and the Angels acquired power hitting first baseman Russell Branyan in late May.

...“I’m a huge music guy,” Trumbo says, “especially any kind of Rock and Roll.” And if you’re familiar with post-hardcore music, you know that Trumbo walks up to the batter’s box to the sound of the band THRICE and their song “To Awake and Avenge the Dead.” Thrice has put out some amazing CD’s, including “The Alchemy Index Vols. I & II” in 2007 and ” Vols. III & IV in 2008. 2002’s “Illusion of Safety” contains the song Trumbo uses as his walk up tune. Overall, the Orange County group has sold over one million records and is on the verge of releasing “Major/Minor, scheduled to drop on September 20th. And just to illustrate that being a major league player does indeed allow you entrance into places most never see, Trumbo has already heard the CD. “I was really lucky to get to hear it before the release. It’s great. The fans are going to love it.”

Repoz Posted: September 07, 2011 at 03:07 PM | 20 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
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   1. Dan Szymborski Posted: September 07, 2011 at 03:58 PM (#3918604)
Wow, leading in extra base hits, extra bases per AB, the biggest component of extra bases per AB, and the result of hitting extra bases per AB.

These 4 independent categories clearly display the well-rounded nature of Trumbo's performance this season.

And hitting that home run to keep a team 6 instead of 8 games out? Clearly, he should get the responsibility for good things that happen after that point, even though he only hit 239/282/448 while those good things were happening.

Trumbo should not only be given the AL ROY award right now, but the MVP and the Manager of the Year as well.
   2. Yonder Alonso in misguided trousers (cardinal) Posted: September 07, 2011 at 04:01 PM (#3918607)
He should be made Head of A&R at Capitol Records too, for the off-season.
   3. BDC Posted: September 07, 2011 at 04:04 PM (#3918609)
I think he should be removed from the Hollywood blacklist.

Edit: in case that Repoz intro was insufficiently allusive :)
   4. RoyalsRetro (AG#1F) Posted: September 07, 2011 at 04:05 PM (#3918610)
He has nice counting stats. That is all.

It is kind of a muddled year for ROY. Ackley is probably the best, but he's only played half a season. The rest of the best are pitchers, who other than closers, don't seem to fare well in ROY voting. I'd say Michael Pineda or Jeremy Hellickson has been the best rookie, but I have a hard time seeing either winning it. It will likely be one of the Angels - Trumbo or Jordan "I has lots of saves Walden.
   5. I Am Not a Number Posted: September 07, 2011 at 04:12 PM (#3918615)
Too often, when I decide to RTFA I expect to land on a fanboy's blog or some such, not the site of someone paid to write the dreck in question.
   6. John DiFool2 Posted: September 07, 2011 at 04:24 PM (#3918633)
Trumbo will be the next Francouer.
   7. Halofan Posted: September 07, 2011 at 04:34 PM (#3918646)
I don't think there is any evidence that Joe McDonnell is getting paid to write that.
   8. flournoy Posted: September 07, 2011 at 04:36 PM (#3918648)
It will likely be one of the Angels - Trumbo or Jordan "I has lots of saves Walden.


Who votes for the AL Rookie of the Year? If it's the same people as the NL Rookie of the Year, then Craig Kimbrel will play Rickey Henderson to Walden's Tim Raines.
   9. RoyalsRetro (AG#1F) Posted: September 07, 2011 at 04:43 PM (#3918652)

Who votes for the AL Rookie of the Year? If it's the same people as the NL Rookie of the Year, then Craig Kimbrel will play Rickey Henderson to Walden's Tim Raines.


Well its writers, so they'll get to write about THE YEAR OF THE CLOSER!
   10. Eugene Freedman Posted: September 07, 2011 at 05:12 PM (#3918677)
After all, he is the third best rookie on his own team.
   11. Johnny Sycophant-Laden Fora Posted: September 07, 2011 at 06:13 PM (#3918749)
These 4 independent categories clearly display the well-rounded nature of Trumbo's performance this season.


hey, he does have more steals than cs, and um, he, er... well
ummm, among the 14 1Bs with more than 502 PAs(so far) he's not last in OPS+ (he's 11th)

and among the 30 1Bs with the most PAs (as a proxy for starting 1B) he's 16th, just below the median, but among American League Rookie starting 1Bs he's only SECOND

personally I'm rooting for Lawrie to continue his 1959 McCovey impersonation.
   12. Walt Davis Posted: September 07, 2011 at 08:24 PM (#3918883)
c'mon now, because a writer gave Trumbo a verbal blow job is no reason to pick on Trumbo. He's a 25-year-old AAAA guy having a nice year.

The rest of the best are pitchers, who other than closers, don't seem to fare well in ROY voting.

Is that true? It didn't seem to used to be true but maybe something has changed. Certainly closers do (as you indirectly note) because it's easy for a rookie closer to pile up big save numbers and the writers have always loved saves. It's true that no starter has won since Verlander in 2006 and before that Willis in 2003 and Jason Jennings in 2002.

But then in the NL 2009, while Coghlan won, Happ was 2nd and Hanson 3rd. In the AL, Bailey won it with Porcello 3rd and Niemann 4th. You find similar things in other years (but certainly not always).

Still I think that probably is right. Back in the good old days, it seemed any rookie pitcher who could get to 15 wins (not that big a total then) would win it -- Bahnsen, Morton, Matlack, Montefusco, Zachry/Metzger. Since the mid-80s, it's been pretty rare for a rookie starter to win it. I suppose it was a combination of rising offense (and ERAs), declining wins and fewer IP such that even a good rookie full-year starter would usually be sitting there with an 11-7 record and an ERA over 4 in 180 IP while there was bound to be a rookie hitter putting up a 280/350/480 line with 30 HR.

No, of course I haven't gone through the last 40 years of baseball to figure out how many times a starter should have won it.
   13. Walt Davis Posted: September 07, 2011 at 08:24 PM (#3918884)
c'mon now, because a writer gave Trumbo a verbal blow job is no reason to pick on Trumbo. He's a 25-year-old AAAA guy having a nice year.

The rest of the best are pitchers, who other than closers, don't seem to fare well in ROY voting.

Is that true? It didn't seem to used to be true but maybe something has changed. Certainly closers do (as you indirectly note) because it's easy for a rookie closer to pile up big save numbers and the writers have always loved saves. It's true that no starter has won since Verlander in 2006 and before that Willis in 2003 and Jason Jennings in 2002.

But then in the NL 2009, while Coghlan won, Happ was 2nd and Hanson 3rd. In the AL, Bailey won it with Porcello 3rd and Niemann 4th. You find similar things in other years (but certainly not always).

Still I think that probably is right. Back in the good old days, it seemed any rookie pitcher who could get to 15 wins (not that big a total then) would win it -- Bahnsen, Morton, Matlack, Montefusco, Zachry/Metzger. Since the mid-80s, it's been pretty rare for a rookie starter to win it. I suppose it was a combination of rising offense (and ERAs), declining wins and fewer IP such that even a good rookie full-year starter would usually be sitting there with an 11-7 record and an ERA over 4 in 180 IP while there was bound to be a rookie hitter putting up a 280/350/480 line with 30 HR.

No, of course I haven't gone through the last 40 years of baseball to figure out how many times a starter should have won it.
   14. Misirlou doesn't live in the restaurant Posted: September 07, 2011 at 08:42 PM (#3918894)
personally I'm rooting for Lawrie to continue his 1959 McCovey impersonation.


Him or Jennings
   15. RoyalsRetro (AG#1F) Posted: September 07, 2011 at 08:53 PM (#3918907)

But then in the NL 2009, while Coghlan won, Happ was 2nd and Hanson 3rd. In the AL, Bailey won it with Porcello 3rd and Niemann 4th. You find similar things in other years (but certainly not always).


And I would argue that either Happ or Hanson should have won.

Looking back though, the past decade hasn't really had too many strong ROY starting pitcher candidates. I can't really say any starter got hosed in the last ten years. Why is this? Is it because its harder for starting pitchers to have success initially? Is it because teams generally don't let SP break with the team in April, so they only get in half a season or less?
   16. Random Transaction Generator Posted: September 07, 2011 at 09:05 PM (#3918919)
If we assume that Lawrie (or Jennings) keeps up this torrid pace that he's on until the end of the season, would 200 PA (or 250) be enough to win the ROY?

Is 13 HR and a 1.000 OPS good enough in that short span?
That would be about 50 (or 65) games for him (or Jennings).

The least amount of games played for a batter that won is Bob Hamelin (101 games).
Buster Posey won last year with 108 games.
   17. RoyalsRetro (AG#1F) Posted: September 07, 2011 at 09:15 PM (#3918925)
Hamelin was a strike shortened year.

Ryan Howard won it with just 88 games played.

Lawrie and Jennings each have only two more home runs than Dustin Ackley who plays a more premium position and has a higher WAR.
   18. UCCF Posted: September 07, 2011 at 09:35 PM (#3918944)
The least amount of games played for a batter that won is Bob Hamelin (101 games).

Except McCovey (52 games). He even got MVP votes for his 1/3 of a season.
   19. Shock Posted: September 07, 2011 at 10:08 PM (#3918957)

Lawrie and Jennings each have only two more home runs than Dustin Ackley who plays a more premium position and has a higher WAR.


Ackley is at 3.0 fWAR; Lawrie 2.1. If he catches up does it he deserve it with only ~50 games?
   20. AJMcCringleberry Posted: September 07, 2011 at 11:11 PM (#3918988)
I heard someone on the MLB Network the other day say that he didn't think pitchers should win ROY. I look forward to the day someone argues pitchers shoudn't win the Cy Young.

I wonder if you polled all the "pitchers don't provide enough value" guys on how important an ace is what they would say. I'm guessing about a 9.6/10 would be the average.
   21. BDC Posted: September 07, 2011 at 11:17 PM (#3918996)
And in honor of Shock, let's note that Trumbo has -15.4 Pancake Flops this year.

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