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Tuesday, August 09, 2011

TSN: Clint Hurdle confident Pirates can take punch and bounce back

and still end up looking like Pittsburgh Fritzie Zivic.

Pittsburgh probably won’t make the playoffs considering their current standing, but how they play over these final seven or so weeks will tell a lot about their clubhouse and could go a long way into next season’s outlook. Finish strong and it’s plenty of momentum for 2012. Finish meek and a deflated feeling is inevitable.

“This is an opportunity to have a great learning experience for all of us, especially for our team as we go forward,” Hurdle said. “And it’s a chance for our organization to understand the humility and balance that comes with rebuilding an organization and taking steps forward. There’s going to be some steps back as well.

“It’s important how you handle both, not just one. We’ve already shown some growth on how to handle success. Now we have to learn how to challenge ourselves when we’re dealing with failure. Too much good has happened in four months. The challenge now is not to cover up and hope they’ll punch themselves out. People don’t punch themselves out in the major leagues. You have to fire some punches back. That’s where we are.”

 

 

Repoz Posted: August 09, 2011 at 10:57 PM | 15 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
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   1. Mash Wilson Posted: August 09, 2011 at 11:37 PM (#3896564)
Of course he is. Nothing has ever said "Irrational Confidence" like Clint Hurdle.

MCOA, I'll get back to you on which player I'd like sponsored and what message.

Now excuse me while I go kick my dog. I really enjoyed the "hey, the Pirates are contending!" thing and was hoping it would at least last into mid-August.

By the way, is it possible for them to finish so badly Hurdle gets fired? That has to be all Pirates fans can root for at this point, right?
   2. NTNgod Posted: August 09, 2011 at 11:40 PM (#3896567)
No, a winning season would still be a nice accomplishment.
   3. Mash Wilson Posted: August 09, 2011 at 11:42 PM (#3896571)
Sure, and so would going undefeated the rest of the season and crushing the Yankees in a glorious four-game sweep of the World Series. Which is only very slightly less likely.

Also, maybe I have a lower opinion of Clint Hurdle's competence than most, but is an 83-79 season really worth keeping him around to screw up their window of contention? I dunno.
   4. Howie Menckel Posted: August 10, 2011 at 01:39 AM (#3896698)
I did read an anecdotal and unprovable story recently about how Hurdle was in Philly and saw a 7-year-old kid with a Pirates hat in town (think it was Dunkin Donuts in the morning), and asked the dad if he could speak with the kid. Supposedly 10 animated minutes about the Pirates. The dad said Hurdle noted he had a kid that age, and sensed he missed him on that trip.

Not claiming a guarantee of authenticity, but would be a weird thing to make up and a nice story if true.
   5. Mash Wilson Posted: August 10, 2011 at 01:58 AM (#3896736)
I've never heard anything but that Hurdle is a really nice guy.

Few things make me personally (speaking as a manager) sadder than a nice person who is bad at their job. You need to get rid of them, but you hate doing so.
   6. Ray (RDP) Posted: August 10, 2011 at 03:36 AM (#3896874)
Hurdle let his team down. He let them suffer back to back losses in extra innings (19 innings and 10 innings) without getting his best reliever in.

29 innings over two games, and his best reliever doesn't pitch.

I'd have fired him on the spot.
   7. Mash Wilson Posted: August 10, 2011 at 04:20 AM (#3896886)
I'm not sure that even cracks the top five reasons to fire the guy. Many/most managers do the same thing.

Kind of like football coaches everywhere constantly punting away the ball when the entire point in football is to have possession of the damn ball. I don't know how the notion the closer's only for save situations got into the book, but managers sure do like keeping to the book.
   8. Ray (RDP) Posted: August 10, 2011 at 04:36 AM (#3896894)
Kind of like football coaches everywhere constantly punting away the ball when the entire point in football is to have possession of the damn ball.


Yes.
   9. Walks Clog Up the Bases Posted: August 10, 2011 at 04:44 AM (#3896897)
I'm glad to hear the MLB Network guys talking about how they're tired of hearing people say that the blown call in the extra inning game started this downward spiral. "This was going to happen regardless."
   10. Curse of the Andino Posted: August 10, 2011 at 06:36 AM (#3896920)
Kind of like football coaches everywhere constantly punting away the ball when the entire point in football is to have possession of the damn ball.


Belichick and Sean Payton have caused this phenomenon to occur less often, thankfully.
   11. Repoz Posted: August 10, 2011 at 11:00 AM (#3896938)
Hurdle let his team down. He let them suffer back to back losses in extra innings (19 innings and 10 innings) without getting his best reliever in.

Pirate fan screamed into my ear yesterday..."IN THE LAST 160 INNINGS, CURDLE HAS USED HANRAHAN IN TWO MEANINGFUL INNINGS!"

Not sure how true this is...but I now deef.
   12. Mash Wilson Posted: August 10, 2011 at 10:15 PM (#3897434)
On the other hand... he's just Joel Hanrahan.
   13. Jim Wisinski Posted: August 10, 2011 at 10:22 PM (#3897438)
Belichick and Sean Payton have caused this phenomenon to occur less often, thankfully.


If he could have gotten away with it I bet John Fox would have punted on third down sometimes.
   14. Ray (RDP) Posted: August 11, 2011 at 01:19 AM (#3897572)
If he could have gotten away with it I bet John Fox would have punted on third down sometimes.


Third down? I think he'd rather just give the ball back on first down and try to go for the "field positioning" since he thinks the game is all defense.
   15. Mash Wilson Posted: August 11, 2011 at 01:22 AM (#3897576)
Did you SEE the Panthers last year? I might have just given the other team the ball at all times too.

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