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Tuesday, May 22, 2018

Twins part with Phil Hughes despite owing him more than $22 million

The lingering uncertainty over Phil Hughes’ role on the Twins is finally over. There isn’t one.

The veteran righthander, who hoped to capture a spot in the starting rotation during spring training, then tried to fill a vague, undefined bullpen role when that didn’t work, was designated for assignment following Monday’s game, a reluctant acknowledgement by the Twins that they can wait no longer to figure out how to use him.

Los Angeles El Hombre of Anaheim Posted: May 22, 2018 at 03:07 PM | 15 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
  Tags: guaranteed contracts must be nice, phil hughes, twins

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   1. Stormy JE Posted: May 22, 2018 at 04:04 PM (#5677494)
He didn't look great in pinstripes.
   2. Gonfalon Bubble Posted: May 22, 2018 at 04:41 PM (#5677529)
No one measures up since Beetlejuice.
   3. Walt Davis Posted: May 22, 2018 at 05:02 PM (#5677546)
A tortured way of saying it, probably to be polite. It's not that the Twins haven't figured out how to use him, it's that they've decided he's not useful which, after injuries and 125 innings of 72 ERA+ over the last 3 years, is likely the correct decision.
   4. Adam Starblind Posted: May 22, 2018 at 05:05 PM (#5677551)
I'll take "players you didn't know were still in the league" for 200, Alex.
   5. JRVJ Posted: May 22, 2018 at 05:14 PM (#5677557)
I remember when Phil, Joba and Ian were the next great Yankee pitching generation.

EDIT: Ian, not Adam.

   6. John DiFool2 Posted: May 22, 2018 at 07:46 PM (#5677655)
Sad.
   7. Davo and his Moose Tacos Posted: May 22, 2018 at 08:01 PM (#5677665)
You know, if they’d just stick with their original 3-year, $24MM contract, this wouldn’t look so bad! They’d have gotten one great year, one meh year, and one #### year. But instead....
   8. ERROR---Jolly Old St. Nick Posted: May 22, 2018 at 08:42 PM (#5677703)
I remember when Phil, Joba and Ian were the next great Yankee pitching generation.

Hughes had one great year for the Yanks, as a setup man for Mo in 2009 when he put up a 1.40 ERA and a WHIP of 0.857. He never had anything close to dominance as a starter.

Funny how Hughes came up as a flamethrower and Kennedy came up with a more subtle repertory, but Kennedy's got the higher K/9 rate. Both Hughes and Chamberlain were the victims of the Yankees not making up their minds whether they should be starters or relievers.
   9. bookbook Posted: May 22, 2018 at 08:51 PM (#5677706)
Wait. Is that future Mariners' ace Phil Hughes you're talking about?
   10. DavidFoss Posted: May 22, 2018 at 09:06 PM (#5677721)
Phil Hughes, the all-time single-season record holder for K/BB ratio at 11.63 (186/16). Set with the Twins in 2014.
   11. cercopithecus aethiops Posted: May 23, 2018 at 07:58 AM (#5677911)
Both Hughes and Chamberlain were the victims of the Yankees not making up their minds whether they should be starters or relievers.


If you actually go back and look at the decisions (and the game logs) in context, what you find is that the Yankees wanted Chamberlain to start all along and went to great lengths to make that happen. Aside from his first callup, every time he was moved to the bullpen was either a result of, or an effort to prevent, injury. He was a victim of his own elbow (and maybe a trampoline). There's a case to be made that Hughes was a victim of the repeated efforts to make Chamberlain a starter, but it's not a very strong one.

EDIT: Despite the record cited by David, Hughes was mostly a victim of not throwing enough strikes.
   12. . . . . . . Posted: May 23, 2018 at 08:09 AM (#5677915)
Both Hughes and Chamberlain suffered from that grevious scourge of young pitchers, Lossu Velocitus.
   13. Don August(us) Cesar Geronimo Berroa Posted: May 23, 2018 at 08:46 AM (#5677922)
I wish the Reds would do this with Homer Bailey. Someone needs to tell him to get on with his life's work.
   14. Rally Posted: May 23, 2018 at 08:58 AM (#5677925)
EDIT: Despite the record cited by David, Hughes was mostly a victim of not throwing enough strikes.


Nope, his problem was throwing too many hittable pitches. From 2015-2018 he only walked 47 batters in 280 innings. But he gave up 56 dingers.
   15. ERROR---Jolly Old St. Nick Posted: May 23, 2018 at 09:05 AM (#5677929)
EDIT: Despite the record cited by David, Hughes was mostly a victim of not throwing enough strikes.

Nope, his problem was throwing too many hittable pitches. From 2015-2018 he only walked 47 batters in 280 innings. But he gave up 56 dingers.

The quintessential Phil Hughes meme after 2009 was getting two quick strikes on a batter, and then having him foul off 6 or 7 pitches while working to a full count. Whatever the final outcome of any particular at-bat, it wound up building up his pitch count and eventually putting more strain on the Yankees bullpen.

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