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Thursday, July 19, 2012

Twins: Tom Kelly says rotation, defense need work

[Former Twins manager turned soon-to-be former Twins announcer Tom Kelly] has that Stupid in him.

However, Kelly doesn’t put all the blame on the starting pitchers. He believes the defense is not playing as well as Twins teams have in the past.

“I think the manager would like to see the defense perform a little bit better, too,” Kelly said. “We’ve done better this year compared to last year, but lately there’s been a few [poor] plays out there. [Twins manager Ron Gardenhire] has that German in him and he’s not too happy with a few of those defensive plays that we’ve made and some of the baserunning blunders we’ve made the last week or so. There’s a few things to clean up and Gardy is the right man to do the job.”

...One hears lots of praise for the great job Kelly does when he is the color commentator on Twins broadcasts, but that field doesn’t interest him as a long-term career.

“No sir, [Sunday] is the last day for me,” Kelly joked this weekend. “I haven’t won any games. I’m starting to think I might be the jinx.”

Repoz Posted: July 19, 2012 at 08:27 AM | 15 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
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   1. Bitter Mouse, Space Tyrant Posted: July 19, 2012 at 08:33 AM (#4186838)
Bad team plays badly. Shocking.
   2. Harveys Wallbangers Posted: July 19, 2012 at 08:52 AM (#4186844)
good to see mauer hitting.
   3. Bitter Mouse, Space Tyrant Posted: July 19, 2012 at 09:03 AM (#4186848)
good to see mauer hitting.


And he is constantly ripped in local media. Blame your best player is alive and well in MN. It is very annoying. But yes Maur hitting and Morneau functional and resonably healthy have been nice.
   4. DL from MN Posted: July 19, 2012 at 09:47 AM (#4186870)
The starting pitching wouldn't have been a complete disaster if Baker and Pavano had been healthy. Liriano has turned the corner and may bring something useful at the deadline. However they're all gone this offseason regardless. Hendriks has wilted in the majors but seems to have talent. Next season's rotation is Diamond, Hendriks and a whole lot of work for Terry Ryan.
   5. Cris E Posted: July 19, 2012 at 09:58 AM (#4186876)
Gibson should be back from TJ surgery and might not be terrible by the end of 2013. Baker won't get much interest on the open market and could get a restructured deal. But yes, even including those two the current cast is going to do little more than fill the 3-4-5 spots. Ryan needs two front side starters.
   6. Bitter Mouse, Space Tyrant Posted: July 19, 2012 at 10:35 AM (#4186897)
I am torn. it is a bad division, so not much improvement gets them into playoff contention, but the pitching is such that "burn it down and start over" looks appealing. But there best position players are not exactly young so they should take advantage now, but really they are terrible so trade and rebuild, but they have a new stadium and it send a bad message, but ...

So tear down, build for another run or two, or waffle aimlessly?
   7. Craig in MN Posted: July 19, 2012 at 11:13 AM (#4186936)

So tear down, build for another run or two, or waffle aimlessly?


They would have tried to trade Doumit instead of extend him if they were going to do a tear down. From a pure talent standpoint it would make most sense to try to build for a push in another year or two when they should have a wave of prospects on the verge. But with the new stadium, weak division, and halfway decent team outside of the rotation, it's certainly understandable that they want to try to field a competitive team next year. How to completely rebuild a rotation from scratch cheaply is a big question. Acquire a decent starter, sign a lottery ticket, and lots of praying that someone else steps up or the rest of the division stinks.
   8. aberg Posted: July 19, 2012 at 11:24 AM (#4186945)
I am torn. it is a bad division, so not much improvement gets them into playoff contention, but the pitching is such that "burn it down and start over" looks appealing. But there best position players are not exactly young so they should take advantage now, but really they are terrible so trade and rebuild, but they have a new stadium and it send a bad message, but ...

So tear down, build for another run or two, or waffle aimlessly?


That is one of the reasons that I have favorably looked at the rumors about the Angels possibly offering Richards for Liriano. Liriano is probably better, but I'd take Richards' contract every day.
   9. aberg Posted: July 19, 2012 at 11:25 AM (#4186947)
It's also funny that some teams, when they need a pitcher, sign a reasonably priced free agent and plug him in. The Dodgers had four starters, so they signed Chris Capuano for very little money, and now they have five. I wish we could do that.
   10. Harveys Wallbangers Posted: July 19, 2012 at 11:39 AM (#4186958)
andrew

but its's so hit and miss.

james mcdonald
r a dickey
kuroda
kevin millwood

kuroda has been outstanding for the yanks and what did he cost, 10 million?

meanwhile there are all kinds of guys who flame out
   11. aberg Posted: July 19, 2012 at 11:57 AM (#4186973)
When the Twins sign free agent starters, it ends up being Jason Marquis, Ramon Ortiz, or Livan Hernandez. I know that even the good teams will miss on these guys pretty often, but it's frustrating to only miss.
   12. HOLLA(R) Posted: July 19, 2012 at 12:52 PM (#4187028)
Minor Twins question: Why have they never given Anthony Slama a chance in the bullpen?
   13. DL from MN Posted: July 19, 2012 at 04:50 PM (#4187342)
Slama has been unlucky in that when a spot opens up he's usually on the AAA disabled list. They also don't like that he's a nibbler.

It doesn't help that the veteran guys they would sell for talent (Pavano & Capps) are both hurt. The answer is they're going to have to trade a couple of their outfielders in the majors or the minors for pitching.
   14. Petunia inquires about ponies Posted: July 19, 2012 at 05:22 PM (#4187388)
Acquire a decent starter, sign a lottery ticket, and lots of praying that someone else steps up or the rest of the division stinks.

John Lackey is available.
   15. jingoist Posted: July 19, 2012 at 05:35 PM (#4187403)
I could tell both the Pirates and twins turned a corner this year.
The Buccos jetisoned Doumit and unfortunately the Twins signed him.
MN becomming like the Pirates of old?
I do give the Twins props for signing Willingham

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