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Sunday, February 16, 2014

Twitter: Braves agree to four year extension with Craig Kimbrel

@Braves The #Braves have agreed to terms with @kimbrel46 on a four-year contract, avoiding salary arbitration.

No number released as of yet. This deal scares me.

Rickey! doesn't think YR is a less terrible Sam Posted: February 16, 2014 at 09:54 AM | 110 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
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   101. PreservedFish Posted: February 17, 2014 at 09:39 PM (#4658303)
KT is clearly in full-on trolling mode here...

   102. Juilin Sandar to Conkling Speedwell (Arjun) Posted: February 17, 2014 at 10:40 PM (#4658320)
Closers still make more money in arb, IIRC. Not as much as there used to be, but still some incentive to get the ninth inning gig.

This is something smart teams may be exploiting.
   103. valuearbitrageur Posted: February 18, 2014 at 03:12 AM (#4658349)
Second, Carpenter pitched the 8th, against RHBs, whom he destroyed all year.


Kimbrel has been far better against right handed hitters (.393 OPS against in 2013, .446 career) than Carpenter over 2013 (.509) and career (.509)

Craig Kimbrel is and has always been better against right handed hitting than Carpenter. You can't defend usage if you get splits wrong.

Carpenter was also likely to turn back into a pumpkin at any moment, Kimbrel has never been a pumpkin. You clearly obsess over small sample sizes, in defining Dodgers most dangerous hitter and Braves best bullpen options, your choices are founded on weak sause.

You've been Captain Assertion BTW. Braves bullpen management good because they win? Which of course means all winning teams have good bullpen management.
   104. vivaelpujols Posted: February 18, 2014 at 03:21 AM (#4658350)
I agree with KT. Obviously Kimbrel's usage is not being maximized by him pitching exclusively in the ninth. The Braves should have a model to determine whether or not a given situation is likely to have the highest leverage in the game. If it is, use Kimbrel. He's still likely to get a 25+ saves and it won't damage his closer status that much.
   105. valuearbitrageur Posted: February 18, 2014 at 03:33 AM (#4658351)
Corrections to above post since damn edit won't work anymore.

Second, Carpenter pitched the 8th, against RHBs, whom he destroyed all year.


Kimbrel has been far better against right handed hitters in 2013 (.393 OPS agains) than Carpenter (.506 against) and over their careers (Carpenter .688, Kimbrel .446 ).

You can't defend usage if you get splits wrong. And Carpenter was also likely to turn back into a pumpkin at any moment. one fluky season with a 65 inning hot streak doesn't explain away the previous 60 innings of awful 70 ERA+, and the fact he couldn't stick in the majors as even a middle reliever before age 27.

Kimbrel has never been a pumpkin, he reverts to Craig Kimbrel. You clearly obsess over small sample sizes, in defining Dodgers most dangerous hitter and Braves best bullpen options, your choices are founded on weak sause.
   106. Rickey! doesn't think YR is a less terrible Sam Posted: February 18, 2014 at 09:08 AM (#4658380)
You can't defend usage if you get splits wrong.


I didn't get any splits wrong. Next?
   107. Lance Reddick! Lance him! Posted: February 18, 2014 at 12:44 PM (#4658526)
It varies by weather conditions, but I'm skeptical that pitchers really need as much warmup as they presently get.

Pitchers not only don't need less warmup than they currently get, they almost certainly need more. It takes a good ten minutes to open up capillaries and achieve optimal blood flow to skeletal muscles; someone who's been sitting around a bullpen for hours is at about 10-15% of his maximum. It's probable that only those who know exactly when they're expected to pitch -- the guy a broadcast catches glimpses of going through a resistance-band routine a full inning before he comes in the game -- are afforded sufficient time to prepare. Teddy Rubberarm's I-threw-the-ball-12-times-and-now-I'm-'loose' routine before he enters with the bases loaded in the seventh is a joke by comparison.
   108. Rickey! doesn't think YR is a less terrible Sam Posted: February 20, 2014 at 11:53 AM (#4659635)
Mark Andrelton Simmons off the list.
   109. PreservedFish Posted: February 20, 2014 at 12:05 PM (#4659643)
Wow. Everyone talks about the 90s Indians when they talk about this strategy of locking up young stars. I think the Braves just became the best example of the strategy.
   110. Rickey! doesn't think YR is a less terrible Sam Posted: February 20, 2014 at 12:10 PM (#4659651)
Wow. Everyone talks about the 90s Indians when they talk about this strategy of locking up young stars. I think the Braves just became the best example of the strategy.


In mid-November, quietly and without a lot of coverage, the Braves signed John Hart as a special assistant to the GM...
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