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Two Brewers, two Pirates suspended for fracas | MLB.com: News

“Maldonado gets five games, Gomez three, Snider two, Martin one for Sunday’s fight.”

Jim Furtado Posted: April 22, 2014 at 03:32 PM | 18 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
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   1. RoyalsRetro (AG#1F) Posted: April 22, 2014 at 03:35 PM (#4691351)
Not sure I'd call it a fracas. More of a brouhaha? Or a skirmish. Definitely not a donnybrook though.
   2. depletion Posted: April 22, 2014 at 04:00 PM (#4691387)
Nothing like the melees, rhubarbs and set-tos they had back in the day. Today's players couldn't have cut the mustard back then.
   3. GregQ Posted: April 22, 2014 at 04:11 PM (#4691397)
I thought that in the good old days they just pulled the onions from their belts and threw them at each other.
   4. Colin Posted: April 22, 2014 at 04:51 PM (#4691433)
Gomez is a repeat offender in this domain, why does he get such a weak suspension?
   5. The Polish Sausage Racer Posted: April 22, 2014 at 05:47 PM (#4691462)
How does Cole not get suspended? If he didn't walk over and get in Gomez' face, none of this happens.

Also, link is dead.
   6. Monty Posted: April 22, 2014 at 05:54 PM (#4691464)
Can you describe the ruckus?
   7. McCoy Posted: April 22, 2014 at 06:00 PM (#4691468)
Also, link is dead.

no, it has been suspended.
   8. Chris Fluit Posted: April 22, 2014 at 06:05 PM (#4691472)
How does Cole not get suspended? If he didn't walk over and get in Gomez' face, none of this happens.


'Cause Cole didn't walk over to get in Gomez' face. He was backing up third base which is his defensive responsibility as the pitcher. He yelled at Gomez while walking back to the mound.

'Cause Cole didn't throw a punch. He yelled at Gomez. You don't get suspended for yelling. You get suspended for throwing punches (or trying to hurt someone with a baseball).
   9. Pat Rapper's Delight Posted: April 22, 2014 at 06:33 PM (#4691490)
Can you describe the ruckus?

Fairly tame as ruckii go. It certainly fell far short of being a pier six brawl.
   10. valuearbitrageur Posted: April 22, 2014 at 06:42 PM (#4691500)
'Cause Cole didn't throw a punch. He yelled at Gomez. You don't get suspended for yelling. You get suspended for throwing punches (or trying to hurt someone with a baseball).


Well, he should get something. He initiated the whole mess. If batters deserve bean-balls or a lecture while being slowdanced by a catcher for admiring a HR for one second too long, pitchers should be punished for inciting a brouhaha.
   11. Cloude Atlas (Voxter) Posted: April 22, 2014 at 06:54 PM (#4691508)
Gomez is a repeat offender in this domain, why does he get such a weak suspension?


Maybe because he was wildly over-punished for last year's thing while the actual perpetrator got off scot-free.
   12. Bring Me the Head of Alfredo Griffin (Vlad) Posted: April 22, 2014 at 07:52 PM (#4691542)
Well, he should get something. He initiated the whole mess.


No, that's wrong, and kind of dumb.
   13. Bug Selig Posted: April 22, 2014 at 09:40 PM (#4691610)
How does Cole not get suspended? If he didn't walk over and get in Gomez' face, none of this happens.

He didn't walk over - he was in the area of 3rd base before Gomez was. Nor did he get in his face - he wasn't within ten feet of him. Other than that, though, your summary is dead nuts and reveals no bias whatsoever. And even if either of those were factually correct, nice standard. If Cutch catches the ball, none of this happens - how many games for him?

Whatever Cole said, nobody other than Gomez - not the ump, not the base coach - had a problem with it. I definitely see how Snider might have gotten more than he did because he seems to be the guy who pushed it past "F you!" "NO, F you!" F you is not and hopefully will never be the basis for a suspension.
   14. The Polish Sausage Racer Posted: April 23, 2014 at 03:16 PM (#4692260)
Well no. I just looked at the play again. Cole is a good ways down the 3rd base line when Gomez gets to third. The third baseman is clearly between Cole and third. Cole walks *past the third baseman* to within +/- five feet of third and Gomez(the clip I looked at cut to a different angle while Cole's still moving towards third, so he may have gotten closer) and he's barking something at Gomez as Cole starts to turn toward the mound.


Nice red herring on McCutcheon, though.

   15. Bring Me the Head of Alfredo Griffin (Vlad) Posted: April 23, 2014 at 03:49 PM (#4692303)
Nice red herring on McCutcheon, though.


Who is this "McCutcheon" of whom you speak?
   16. depletion Posted: April 23, 2014 at 03:51 PM (#4692306)
When Gomez walked away from the bag, why didn't Cole flip the ball to his 3Bman and erase the triple? Did the ump call time? It would have been the ultimate "play the game the right way" move to tag Gomez as he was wagging his tongue.
   17. Sunday silence Posted: April 23, 2014 at 04:33 PM (#4692374)
and he's barking something at Gomez as Cole starts to turn toward the mound


so is it your pt. that Cole should be suspended for yelling something at Gomez?
   18. Bug Selig Posted: April 24, 2014 at 11:07 AM (#4693118)
Nice red herring on McCutcheon, though.


It is far from a red herring to ask how far you are willing to take your "He didn't do anything wrong, but if he hadn't done what he did, the other guy might not have totally lost his mind" logic.

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