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1. Dan The Mediocre Posted: April 16, 2009 at 01:29 PM (#3140535)Blazing Saddles is flashing though my mind right now at an incredible speed. I think MB should jog out to right field and unscroll a banner that says "Where the white women at?"
It'll only work if the Trixies are over Kyle Farnsworth.
Didn't overt racism decline with Fukudome's production?
It seemed to me that it increased.
Isn't this usually how he is at the start of a tenure somewhere?
This should be encouraging for the Cubs. A mature Bradley combined with MVP-type production...holy moly.
Now if only they could do something about the fact he is made of glass.
I wasn't there to witness it. Perhaps WGN's cameras eventually stopped focusing on the racist gear.
Pretty much. Bradley isn't some raving wild man who spends every waking moment in a state of uncontrolled rage. He seems more like a reasonably intelligent guy who happens to have an explosive temper. Based on the past couple years, it's not even that he loses it regularly, it's just that when he DOES lose it....
I was pretty shocked that Cubs fans bought that stuff, and even more shocked that the Cubs seemed to encourage it.
I think Bradley's talking about himself here...and this is a warning....
Damn, salvo, you win the thread in my book. That made me LOL as the kids say.
AFAIK, coolie hats aren't even part of Japanese culture. It would be sort of like if the Cubs signed a French ballplayer, so Cubs fans started wearing lederhosen to the ballpark.
Would Juan Pierre, Jaques Jones, or Jason DuBois qualify?
The stuff was sold by street vendors, they no more supported it than the White Sox support "World's largest Gay Bar" t-shirts.
Fair enough.
I moved to Chicago from San Francisco last summer, and was pretty surprised and saddened to see those "gay bar" t-shirts. Ugh.
Or Leo Durocher?
what t-shirts and headbands were there? I dont remember hearing about them.
The Cub logo with slanted eyes saying "Horry Kow!" on the front, and Fukudome's name and number on the back.
Damn. I knew about the Horry Kow, but I didn't realize they pulled out the old slanted eyes slur of my childhood. That's atrocious.
They encouraged it by plastering it all over their synergistically-owned tv station.
Slanted eyes on the tshirt
When is that sale going through, by the way?
For all I know, its already happened.
I thought that the White Sox playing a gong ringing when Shingo Takatsu came in was in poor taste, too. Maybe it's a Chicago thing.
We're certainly not the most enlightened city in the country, particularly on my side of town.
FTR, Cubs sale has not gone through yet, delayed til at least mid-May, most likely later than that.
That's pretty awful
The weird thing is that these shirts were bought by folks who presumably liked Fukudome and were happy that he was here, at least at the time.
Can you imagine if they celebrated the arrival of Milton Bradley in a similar way?
He actually tried out for the Sox at some point a couple years back.
He was a fun pitcher to watch. I sort of miss him.
It's not that odd. I'm sure it helps to have someone around who (a) speaks your language, and (b) has been around MLB for a while, so they know the ropes and can explain the cultural differences.
Does anyone think or know differently? I'd be interested to hear if that still goes on.
Just add the Portugee to that list and we'll be fast friends.
That's Brewers fans.
hard to believe that was incidental. Bradley just kept going forward; the ump took a couple of steps back, then stopped going back, and bradley bumped him. Totally unacceptable in a way that would have turned my stomach even if it was LA at SFG, or something similarly benign.
The strike zone WAS terrible; that ump needs to be fired. but the strike zone was a lot better for bradley than it was for duncan, and duncan went 3 for 4 with a "wrigley special" basket HR (about time the cards got one of those at that frigging 19th century ballpark) and a K which was farther out of the zone than the one bradley struck out on.
Gameday has the pitch that K'd bradley as definitely inside the fuzzy white. Definitely in the "with two outs and bases loaded protect" zone. It was just a nice, wicked, adam wainwright curve ball. Definitely NOT worth bumping an umpire over.
Yes. But as a sign of progress the racial slurs have been reduced considerably. Part of it is part of it is societal.
But part of it is ballpark policy. Typically your worst heckling comes from the income extremes. And clubs were fine ejecting rednecks
It was the Commissioner who told owners that the "money guys" had to get the boot.
I tapped him on the shoulder and told him that spreading racism is not a parental responsibility. He actually fell silent, and the kids looked pretty ashamed like they knew it had been wrong but were trying to impress dad. It probably helped that when they turned around, they saw a cloud of Chinese people.
Yep, looks like Milton may have to sit a few games (video of pitch and ejection in link also)
I expected a long drawn out argument from the way people have talked. Seriously, that's it?
For the record, Japanese people do not generally eat dogs, and in fact are somewhat alarmed that Chinese and Korean people eat them occasionally. I have, however, eaten cat liver as a "surprise appetizer" in Tokyo -- meaning the appetizer was the chef's choice and they only tell you what it is if you ask. Eating cats is not common in Japan either, but it is a delicacy in Iriomote.
Now back to our regularly scheduled ridicule of uneducated midwestern yuppies -- hey wait a second!
"Trumped up"?
Pretty much every batter who's ever played the game more than a handful of times has had questionable calls go against him. For that matter, so has every pitcher. Most of the time, these calls do not result in prolonged on-field arguments, much less ejections or suspensions.
Prolonged? He was on the field for a total of about 5 seconds after the strike call was made.
Did you watch the video linked above?
And I think Scott said it is trumped up because the supposed bump or contact (at least from the angle provided in the replay) is certainly not obvious or clear. For anyone to be talking about Bradley getting suspended for this is ridiculous, and probably only rests on Bradley's past reputation. If the situation had been exactly the same, but with Derrek Lee in Bradley's place, no one would be talking about any kind of suspension.
part of the reason for Bradleys attitude on that play is that he had two previous borderline pitches also called strikes. It wasn't just a one pitch and done situation, it was three consecutive pitches that were all close. I'm not saying he was right or anything, but it was a pretty crucial bat at the time, the fans were into the play and were already booing the previous call, and he reacted with anger, I still think it is incidental contact in that he didn't lay hands on the ump but just bumped caps
I must have seen a different video, there is zero liklihood that Bradley didn't make contact, and baseball has a zero tolerance policy on these type of things, any contact (in this case it was his cap making contact with the ump) is a potential suspension.
The Cardinals broadcast had a different angle of Bradley and his cap clearly came into contact with the umps head. Which has resulted in suspensions in the past. Also that clip was cut by about a second or so, not a lot but the argument lasted longer live than what was shown.
That's why Bradley, of all people, needs to get his temper under control and rise above such perceived slights.
But he can't...
Seriously, did I watch a different video?
This. You can't control what other people do - you can only control your reaction to that. If you have acknowledged anger issues, as Bradley does, you need to be less sensitive to that sort of thing, not more.
You watched the comcast video I guess, I wish they had the Cardinals game video. The comcast video has a cut that loses about a second, has a poor angle so you don't see him making slight contact and the ump backing off a little. It wasn't super bad, but it was definately in line for a guy to get a suspension since MLB doesn't tolerate anything
I'm not sure why MLB is using that particular camera shot, because that is the most flattering to Bradley.
Yes, what Weeks said. If they find footage that shows what cardsfanboy describes I may revise my opinion, but based on the linked video all this attention is just silly.
Wasn't Jacque Jones complaining about racist Wrigley fans taunting him? I can't imagine anyone taunting him for anything other than striking out.
Recently?
I'm not talking about some fool turning to his buddy and whispering some racial slur, that, unfortunately, probably happens a lot. I'm talking about yelling a slur that the player can hear from the field. I've never heard anything like that aimed at black players.
Which is why he got tossed immediately.
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