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Saturday, April 06, 2013

Upton brothers homer in 9th, Braves rally to win

Y’all gonna make me lose my mind.

B.J. Upton led off the ninth inning with a homer and his brother Justin followed one out later with another long ball that helped the Atlanta Braves rally past embattled Chicago Cubs closer Carlos Marmol for a 6-5 victory Saturday night.

Marmol had been through a tough week. He was pulled from a save situation after facing four batters and not recording an out in Chicago’s win at Pittsburgh on opening day, but he earned a save on Thursday against the Pirates despite giving up two ninth-inning runs.

The Upton brothers, major offseason acquisitions for Atlanta, became the 25th tandem of brothers to homer in the same major league game and the first since Adam and Andy LaRoche accomplished the feat for Pittsburgh on June 17, 2009.

Brian White Posted: April 06, 2013 at 11:43 PM | 34 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
  Tags: bj upton, braves, cubs, justin upton

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   1. Walks Clog Up the Bases Posted: April 07, 2013 at 03:45 AM (#4406527)
Carlos Marmol is really terrible. That's all I've got.
   2. Jack Carter, calling Beleaguered Castle Posted: April 07, 2013 at 05:10 AM (#4406529)
I suppose it's too late now for the Dixon brothers to ever homer in the same game.
   3. Harveys Wallbangers Posted: April 07, 2013 at 06:45 AM (#4406531)
nobody is concerned about facing marmol. his control has become so bad he has to let up so much to throw strikes it's batting practice for solid hitters.
   4. Flynn Posted: April 07, 2013 at 07:09 AM (#4406533)
It's gonna be fun watching those two become Atlanta's darlings.
   5. shoewizard Posted: April 07, 2013 at 08:09 AM (#4406536)
Justin is spraying the ball in all directions......but they are going 400 feet instead of in the gaps. His second homer of the year is the most impressive one to me. Pitcher tried to sneak a fb inside and did his job. Knee high on the inner black. No use. jUp just to quick right now. Turned so fast and hit a rope laser over the wall.

   6. Dan Posted: April 07, 2013 at 08:24 AM (#4406537)
nobody is concerned about facing marmol. his control has become so bad he has to let up so much to throw strikes it's batting practice for solid hitters.


He was throwing 94 MPH last night. I don't really think it was an issue of letting up so much as seemingly being afraid of being unable to throw strikes with his slider. They hit him so hard last night because he was throwing mostly his fastball. He threw a few sliders, but they seemed to be sitting on the fastballs.
   7. Honkie Kong Posted: April 07, 2013 at 09:53 AM (#4406588)
Think I have been more impressed with J.Up's HRs to straightaway , just right of center.
Low FB from Halladay, boom. High hanging slider, to right of straightaway center at Turner Field.
You really need your timing to be perfect to do that.

Even the outside fastball from Marmol was right back to CF.
   8. boteman is not here 'til October Posted: April 07, 2013 at 09:54 AM (#4406589)
I was excited to see both Upton brothers smack homers almost back-to-back last night. Then I realized that they now both play for the Barves and had to curb my enthusiasm. May this never happen again!
   9. The District Attorney Posted: April 07, 2013 at 10:27 AM (#4406599)
Is this Jed/Theo acceding to Proven Closer stuff? I feel like they should know better.

It'll be really cool if both Justin and B.J. bust out with the seasons everyone's always thought they're capable of having. I mean, more awesome if it's Justin since he's on my Strat-O-Matic team, but both would be great. (At least until the Mets get good. Then these two guys both in the Atlanta outfield won't be "great" so much as "a huge problem.")
   10. Drexl Spivey Posted: April 07, 2013 at 10:39 AM (#4406602)
Pitcher tried to sneak a fb inside and did his job. Knee high on the inner black. No use. jUp just to quick right now. Turned so fast and hit a rope laser over the wall.


I love seeing batters turn on inside fastballs for HRs.

It's so aesthetically pleasing for me; the bat just looks like a whip.
   11. Harveys Wallbangers Posted: April 07, 2013 at 11:11 AM (#4406618)
dan

a. 94 is not marmol's fastball/fastball

b. it was straight as a string

c. because his control is for sh8t he has to throw what for him is a let up pitch and he hopes the location will make the difference

when marmol was going well he was throwing harder making that slider unhittable because it swerved what seemed 2 feet. those days are gone

it's sad. he's derrick turnbow now
   12. Drexl Spivey Posted: April 07, 2013 at 12:14 PM (#4406648)
it's sad. he's derrick turnbow now


Good comp.

From http://news.google.com/newspapers?nid=1683&dat=20070515&id=uHY0AAAAIBAJ&sjid=m44EAAAAIBAJ&pg=6192,3323771

So why did he not throw more any more sliders?

"I thought I could beat them with fastballs and I just got out of the game plan," Turnbow said



   13. Pops Freshenmeyer Posted: April 07, 2013 at 12:15 PM (#4406649)
Is this Jed/Theo acceding to Proven Closer stuff? I feel like they should know better.

Actually, I think they are trying to pump some trade value into him. Tey signed Japanese reliever Kyuji Fujikawa for 2/9.5 million so It seems they wanted to be ready to replace Marmol this season.
   14. Pasta-diving Jeter (jmac66) Posted: April 07, 2013 at 12:25 PM (#4406658)
he's out as closer

(that was fast)

"marmol" sounds like some type of New World monkey
   15. Rowland Office Supplies Posted: April 07, 2013 at 12:37 PM (#4406660)
"marmol" sounds like some type of New World monkey

"Nice marmol."
   16. Crispix reaches boiling point with lackluster play Posted: April 07, 2013 at 12:41 PM (#4406663)
Ranked by their likelihood of success as a shutdown relief pitcher:

3) Marmot
2) Marmol
1) Marmoset
   17. Greg K Posted: April 07, 2013 at 12:49 PM (#4406667)
I think I know a Pygmy Marmoset that might squeeze in there between Marmol and a full-sized one.
   18. boteman is not here 'til October Posted: April 07, 2013 at 12:55 PM (#4406670)
I guess his Marmol-ade don't work in the regular season any more.
   19. KT's Pot Arb Posted: April 07, 2013 at 01:06 PM (#4406678)
I was excited to see both Upton brothers smack homers almost back-to-back last night. Then I realized that they now both play for the Barves and had to curb my enthusiasm. May this never happen again!


I am rooting for the Braves starting outfielders to combine to hit .340 with 100 stolen bases and 120 HR, be selected as starting outfield for All-Star game, win 3 gold gloves, and finish 1-2-3 in MVP vote.

Oh, and for the Braves to lose 100 games, enter bankruptcy and be forced to trade all three of them.

In closing may I remind everyone that Kevin Towers Is a loud mouthed dumb ####### moron.
   20. Pops Freshenmeyer Posted: April 07, 2013 at 01:11 PM (#4406682)
he's out as closer

(that was fast)

Allowing five runs in three appearances over 1 2/3 will do that.

EDIT: and a WHIP of 4.8
   21. Tom Nawrocki Posted: April 07, 2013 at 01:21 PM (#4406694)
The Upton brothers, major offseason acquisitions for Atlanta, became the 25th tandem of brothers to homer in the same major league game and the first since Adam and Andy LaRoche accomplished the feat for Pittsburgh on June 17, 2009.


Of course, what was really interesting about last night's game was that two brothers homered in the same inning. It'd be nice if they'd tell us if that ever happened before.
   22. zonk Posted: April 07, 2013 at 01:22 PM (#4406696)
HW nails it -

Marmol's bread and butter was a truly nasty slider. He never had great command of it, but it was unhittable and he was untouchable as long as he could occasionally throw it for strikes.

It's not as nasty as it once was and it's an accident if he can get anywhere near the plate.

He's toast.
   23. Brian White Posted: April 07, 2013 at 01:47 PM (#4406724)
Of course, what was really interesting about last night's game was that two brothers homered in the same inning. It'd be nice if they'd tell us if that ever happened before.


6th time in MLB history. Last time was Cal and Billy Ripken in 1996, per David O'Brien.
   24. Rickey! On a blog from 1998. With the candlestick. Posted: April 07, 2013 at 01:52 PM (#4406729)
The good thing, aside from the win obviously, was getting Melvin off the snide. He's been horrible at the plate this year so far. With Freeman going on the DL for a bit he needs to produce.
   25. snapper (history's 42nd greatest monster) Posted: April 07, 2013 at 02:12 PM (#4406749)
It'll be really cool if both Justin and B.J. bust out with the seasons everyone's always thought they're capable of having. I mean, more awesome if it's Justin since he's on my Strat-O-Matic team, but both would be great. (At least until the Mets get good. Then these two guys both in the Atlanta outfield won't be "great" so much as "a huge problem.")

I second that. I've got them both, on separate DMB teams, and don't particularly care who wins the NL, so #1,2 for NL MVP sound good to me.
   26. boteman is not here 'til October Posted: April 07, 2013 at 05:05 PM (#4406939)
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   27. Walt Davis Posted: April 08, 2013 at 01:02 AM (#4407235)
3) Marmot
2) Marmol
1) Marmoset


Kent Tekulve kinda looked like a really ugly meerkat.

Is this Jed/Theo acceding to Proven Closer stuff?

$10 M contract, hope for a hot streak to start the season then trade, lack of other good options on the team. Marmol, Camp, Fujikawa, Russell is not exactly the Nasty Boys.

For all his faults, Marmol still put up a 115 ERA+ last year and gave up just 4 HR in 55 innings and 6.5 hits per 9 and K'd 12 per 9. The 7 walks per 9 did not help :-) but Marmol has to this point been a very talented pitcher. I think he's pretty much done too but, if I already had him under contract for $10 M and nobody was willing to trade for him, why not put him in the closer spot. We always say you don't need to be a great pitcher to pick up saves and Marmol's definitely not a guy you want entering the game with men on base.

It's not like they were trotting a total bust like Fernando Rodney out there.

   28. McCoy Posted: April 08, 2013 at 08:04 AM (#4407254)
Isn't a 115 ERA+ below average for a reliever? Or at least for a reliever in high leverage situations.
   29. McCoy Posted: April 08, 2013 at 08:16 AM (#4407260)
Out of the 211 relievers last year that pitched at least 30 innings Marmol placed 124th in ERA+. Out of the 49 pitchers who recorded at least 5 saves Marmol ranks 36th in ERA+.
   30. jyjjy Posted: April 08, 2013 at 08:16 AM (#4407261)
I believe it works out to something like 110 being average for relievers, 95ish for starters, but yeah, 115 is probably below average for closers specifically.
   31. Hack Wilson Posted: April 08, 2013 at 08:30 AM (#4407269)
The only way for the Cubs to avoid another 100 plus loss season is to follow the recommendation of the Alderman and tear down Wrigley and put up a parking lot (hey maybe I could write a song with those lyrics). Scott Rolen on crutches would be better than the clowns that have played third base for the Cubs this year.
   32. McCoy Posted: April 08, 2013 at 08:33 AM (#4407271)
Aramis Ramirez: .385/.467/.615
   33. RJ in TO Posted: April 08, 2013 at 10:05 AM (#4407318)
And placed on the DL with a left knee sprain.
   34. shoewizard Posted: April 21, 2013 at 12:32 AM (#4420924)
Why do the threads get locked so soon ? The threads discussing The trade at the time they happened are all locked up and no commenting/bumping allowed.

Thats no fun !!

Anyway

Early returns continue to be diappointing. It's still VERY early. Too early to call the trade a disaster of course. This could look drastically different in just a couple of short weeks. I'll be waiting, and hoping.

2013 YTD PA H 2B 3B HR R RBI  SB CS BB  SO BABIP AVG OBP SLG  wOBA wRC+
Johnson  58 23 4 0 2  7 7 0 0 2  9 .477 .418 .448 .600 .453 189
Upton    73 20 4 0 9 15  13 2 0 8 19   .297 .313 .384 .797 .481 208
Prado    81 18 3 0 3 13 7 0 1 6  9 .238 .243 .296 .405 .305  84 


Randall Delgado in Reno

W   L   ERA GS   IP  H  R ER HR BB SO  WHIP  H/9 HR/9 BB/9 SO/9 SO/BB
0   1 10.03  3 11.2 13 13 13  4  7 13 1.714 10.0  3.1  5.4 10.0  1.86 


Nick Ahmed in Mobile

G    PA BB SO   BA  OBP  SLG  OPS
15   54  3  9 .128 .189 .128 .316 


Zeke Spruill in Mobile

W   L  ERA GS   IP  H R ER HR BB SO  WHIP H/9 HR/9 BB/9 SO/9 SO/BB
0   3 1.93  3 18.2 18 6  4  0  6 14 1.286 8.7  0.0  2.9  6.8  2.33 


Brandon Drury in South Bend

G    PA BB SO   BA  OBP  SLG  OPS
10   42  2  5 .150 .190 .275 .465 


Spruill off to a good start...other than that, poor starts across the board for the guys we got in that trade while Johnson and Upton have been hot to start the season.

Yuck

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