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Tuesday, December 17, 2013

USA Cricket: David Warner to give baseball a shot

Australian opener David Warner has attracted the attention of American baseball scouts and was considering it, The Daily Telegraph reported yesterday. Warner has been in superb form throughout the Ashes and scored his second century in the third Test and his sixth this season.
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Warner has endorsement deals with Gray Nicolls, Asics and ANZ Stadium and could sign deals to the tune of $5 million based on his current form.  He is also expected to fetch $2 million at the next IPL auction. “His talent is second to none in raw ability and now he’s combining it with a great work ethic,” [Warner’s manager Tony] Connelly told the Telegraph. “If he was any good at baseball, he could double or triple what he earns from cricket.”

Bring Me the Head of Alfredo Griffin (Vlad) Posted: December 17, 2013 at 06:38 PM | 38 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
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   1. Greg K Posted: December 17, 2013 at 08:39 PM (#4619934)
At least at the rudimentary level, I was surprised how well cricketers faired at baseball while in I was in the UK. There are obvious transferable skills, but I wasn't expecting the adjustment to hitting baseballs to be so successful so quickly. And a lot of them have dynamite arms. It would take a long time before I'd be comfortable with any of them playing anywhere other than DH though.
   2. Best Regards, President of Comfort, Esq. Posted: December 17, 2013 at 09:13 PM (#4619952)
Warner: "How many balls are there"

Umpire: "There are three balls."

Warner: "No. There are four."

Umpire: "I saw three balls."

Warner: "I don't understand how you can be so mistaken."
   3. frannyzoo Posted: December 17, 2013 at 09:24 PM (#4619959)
Warner being an opening batsman brings up the OBP question and cricketeers. Would they tend to be more selective with pitches? Could fine cricket batting mean more deliberate foul balls and extended counts? I've never thought of Warner as being *fast, and he's not a bowler, so it's a bit hard to see him positionally.

*Admittedly, with all those pads, it's hard to think of any cricketeer as fast (except fast bowlers)
   4. Chone Mueller Posted: December 17, 2013 at 09:45 PM (#4619969)
#2 - very good!
   5. Moeball Posted: December 17, 2013 at 09:52 PM (#4619975)
Well, I'm guessing he's a good low-ball hitter?

Actually, when I first heard the name I was thinking MLB teams better stay away from David Warner because he is, after all, Ultimate Evil.
   6. Greg K Posted: December 17, 2013 at 10:04 PM (#4619978)
Just came across this book about baseball from the perspective of a cricketer. Looks like it might be an interesting read.
   7. Greg K Posted: December 17, 2013 at 10:05 PM (#4619979)
‘I’d love to be a coach of an American sport,’ one professional cricket coach once told me. ‘They don’t mess around.’ He is right. In baseball almost no statistic is inconceivable, nor any selection made without full reference to all the available evidence. The availability of critical evidence has a flip side for coaches : they haven’t got much chance of bluffing their players or the media. Bullshitters don’t last long.

Some here may not find this bit accurate.
   8. CFBF Is A Golden Spider Duck Posted: December 17, 2013 at 10:06 PM (#4619980)
I saw the headline and immediately thought, "David Warner, you are ejected by order of David Warner!"
   9. Voros McCracken of Pinkus Posted: December 17, 2013 at 10:09 PM (#4619982)
5,

The scenes with 'Evil' in Time Bandits remain among my favorite movie scenes of all time. "Good question."

It's a great movie actually, and about as dark and philosophical as a "kids' movie" is ever going to get. I may be alone in this, but I think it's Gilliam's best movie.
   10. The John Wetland Memorial Death (CoB) Posted: December 17, 2013 at 10:13 PM (#4619985)
I may be alone in this, but I think it's Gilliam's best movie.


Not while Brazil's around, but it *is* top-drawer stuff ...
   11. Sean Forman Posted: December 17, 2013 at 10:22 PM (#4619987)
The stats in cricket broadcasts make baseball look like child's play. The broadcasts to my eye look like bloomberg tv broadcast. You are just inundated with data at every turn.
   12. NTNgod Posted: December 17, 2013 at 10:31 PM (#4619988)
Actually, when I first heard the name I was thinking MLB teams better stay away from David Warner because he is, after all, Ultimate Evil.

And Jack the Ripper in TIME AFTER TIME, and the villain in TRON, and so on.

Just like Malcom McDowell around the same time period (the aforementioned TIME AFTER TIME being a rare exception), he pretty much always was playing a villain or nutball. Michael Ironside might have been the Canadian version around that timeframe.
   13. frannyzoo Posted: December 17, 2013 at 10:32 PM (#4619989)
Terry Gilliam-directed films top to bottom (as is inevitable when a thread concerns David Warner, Australian cricketer/cricketeer):

1. Holy Grail (he gets Director Credit here, alongside Terry Jones)
2. Brazil
3. Time Bandits
4. the Don Quixote film that never got finished
5. The Fisher King
6. Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas
7. The Adventures of Baron Munchausen
8. TG films I haven't seen because they must, by definition, be worse than the seven listed above. (I did see about 10 minutes of "...Parnassus")

Btw, David Warner is great in "Time After Time" and looks so much different in the 50,000,000 things he's been in since that's it hard to remember. Aging is a helluva drug.

P.S.: I once got David Hemmings and David Warner confused...for about 20 years. It happens.


   14. puck Posted: December 17, 2013 at 10:42 PM (#4619995)
Twelve Monkeys?
   15. The John Wetland Memorial Death (CoB) Posted: December 17, 2013 at 10:52 PM (#4619998)
1. Holy Grail (he gets Director Credit here, alongside Terry Jones)


'Fraid I don't count that ...

My list:

Brazil
Time Bandits
Baron Munchausen
12 Monkeys
The Fisher King
Fear and Loathing
Stuff, and things ...
   16. Best Regards, President of Comfort, Esq. Posted: December 17, 2013 at 11:48 PM (#4620009)
David Warner was in an episode of Doctor Who earlier this year, too. I expected him to be the villain.
   17. Fred Lynn Nolan Ryan Sweeney Agonistes Posted: December 18, 2013 at 02:25 AM (#4620042)
The scenes with 'Evil' in Time Bandits remain among my favorite movie scenes of all time. "Good question."

It's been 30 years since we saw Time Bandits together, but even now I can crack my Mom up by referencing that line.

Btw, David Warner is great in "Time After Time" and looks so much different in the 50,000,000 things he's been in since that's it hard to remember. Aging is a helluva drug.

My favorite WTF David Warner moment was when he shows up in the 60's Tom Jones. He's such a baby; he looks a little like Ralph Fiennes.
He's done a heap of voice work over the last couple of decades, which is only right: bless him, he has a heck of an instrument there.
   18. Andy McGeady Posted: December 18, 2013 at 06:42 AM (#4620048)
Just came across this book about baseball from the perspective of a cricketer. Looks like it might be an interesting read.

Yes. "Playing Hardball" an excellent read, and well-written. Smith is not a baseball expert though so one really needs to go into it knowing that it's from the cricketing perspective.

Also gave a copy to my father-in-law, a cricketer who won over 100 international caps, who enjoyed it thoroughly.

Recommended.

Amazon linky: http://www.amazon.co.uk/Playing-Hard-Ball-Cricket-Baseball/dp/0349116660/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1387363409&sr=1-1&keywords=playing+hardball
   19. Phil Coorey is a T-Shirt Salesman Posted: December 18, 2013 at 08:54 AM (#4620055)
The stats in cricket broadcasts make baseball look like child's play. The broadcasts to my eye look like bloomberg tv broadcast. You are just inundated with data at every turn.


That's what everyone who watches cricket says about baseball . But watching Test match cricket is one of my true joys in life. The ashes took about 14 days to win , and there are about 6 hours of play a day. Most normal fans would not have missed a ball (my twitter page will attest to that)

Warner is next to zero chance of ever making it in baseball, it takes a lifetime to learn how to hit these pills and trust me , he would not lay off any breaking balls!

He's a huge redemption story right now, and Australia have just reclaimed the Ashes due to him and another redeption story , Mitchel Johnson ( he was basically pedro 99-2000 like the last few weeks ) , he is on a mission and will probably succeed to become the worlds highest paid cricketer and is using this ridiculous story as leverage.

Anyway , hope everyone is well and has a great christmas.

take care

   20. karlmagnus Posted: December 18, 2013 at 09:14 AM (#4620058)
Congratulations, Phil! You may remember I called this one before the series began. The England team was fairly clearly going over the hill, and these breakdowns tend to happen quickly. And unlike the Yankees, they can't just go out and buy a new lot.
   21. John DiFool2 Posted: December 18, 2013 at 09:41 AM (#4620061)
Well, I'm guessing he's a good low-ball hitter?


Well, the batter in #2 is, at least.
   22. zonk Posted: December 18, 2013 at 09:54 AM (#4620069)
I like Brazil and have both it and Time Bandits on BlueRay.... and I have to say, I've probably re-watched Time Bandits twice as much as Brazil.
   23. Bring Me the Head of Alfredo Griffin (Vlad) Posted: December 18, 2013 at 10:32 AM (#4620083)
Brazil has some stretches that drag a bit, but I think it also has the most memorable moments of the two. Both are quite good, though.
   24. A big pile of nonsense (gef the talking mongoose) Posted: December 18, 2013 at 10:33 AM (#4620085)
6. Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas


A friend of mine who saw this on the big screen blames it for her failing to return to a theatre for about a decade.

Never saw it myself (or, oddly enough, Brazil, either -- an oversight I must remedy at some point).
   25. Shooty Survived the Shutdown of '14! Posted: December 18, 2013 at 10:42 AM (#4620088)
A friend of mine who saw this on the big screen blames it for her failing to return to a theatre for about a decade.

I really liked fear and loathing. Let's get down to brass tacks...how much for the monkey?
   26. Bring Me the Head of Alfredo Griffin (Vlad) Posted: December 18, 2013 at 11:31 AM (#4620120)
I really liked fear and loathing.


So did I.
   27. Slivers of Maranville descends into chaos (SdeB) Posted: December 18, 2013 at 11:51 AM (#4620132)
Brazil I found to be a little too heavy handed -- almost as if Gilliam were afraid that people wouldn't get the message, so he lathered it on even more.
   28. simon bedford Posted: December 18, 2013 at 12:09 PM (#4620143)
my fave gililam film was "baron von manchausen". brazil and time bandits would be 2 and 3...
   29. Don Geovany Soto (chris h.) Posted: December 18, 2013 at 12:13 PM (#4620144)
#2 is pretty spectacular.

David Warner was in an episode of Doctor Who earlier this year, too. I expected him to be the villain.


Yeah, so did I; I mean, who casts David Warner as a non-villain? Still, he did an awesome job with what he was given.

For really serious Doctor Who nerds, there are a bunch of audio dramas that normally feature the proper actors from the old series, but they have a few in a range called "Doctor Who Unbound" that feature other actors in the role of the Doctor. David Warner did a few, and he was terrific (of course).

Personally I always wished they'd make him the Master.
   30. Jim Kaat on a hot Gene Roof Posted: December 19, 2013 at 01:25 PM (#4620917)
When I saw "David Warner" in the excerpt for some reason I instantly thought of Chancellor Gorkon's last words: "don't let it end this way."
   31. Phil Coorey is a T-Shirt Salesman Posted: December 23, 2013 at 05:59 AM (#4622769)
Congratulations, Phil! You may remember I called this one before the series began. The England team was fairly clearly going over the hill, and these breakdowns tend to happen quickly. And unlike the Yankees, they can't just go out and buy a new lot.


Thanks a million mate - been a tough few years for Aussie cricket ! Hope you are well!
   32. AndrewJ Posted: December 23, 2013 at 07:20 AM (#4622770)
What about Jabberwocky?
   33. Joe Bivens, Minor Genius Posted: December 23, 2013 at 07:37 AM (#4622772)
Have there ever been any ex-pro cricket players in MLB?
   34. dlf Posted: December 23, 2013 at 08:55 AM (#4622778)
Have there ever been any ex-pro cricket players in MLB?


Do George and Harry Wright count?
   35. OsunaSakata Posted: December 23, 2013 at 11:02 AM (#4622833)
Some non-villain David Warner roles: The aforementioned Chancellor Gorkon from Star Trek and Professor Grisenko from Doctor Who. Also as Bob Cratchit opposite George C. Scott as Scrooge.

Other than Uma Thurman, I don't get why people are impressed with Baron Munchausen. My three Terry Gilliam favorites are Brazil, Tim Bandits and Twelve Monkeys.
   36. Ron J2 Posted: December 23, 2013 at 11:03 AM (#4622834)
#34 True of a lot of the early stars. Jim Creighton was a pretty well known cricketer too.

I remember that SI did a feature on Ian Botham that included a report on a stint in a batting cage. He found it pretty easy going (said something like, "nothing but full tosses").

We've discussed this before. Bradman (the most famous batsman of all time) was a baseball fan and could definitely hit batting practice. It's just that nothing prepares you for major league pitchers trying to get you out.

Same the other way. There are baseball players who've put on fairly impressive displays in practice sessions. I have no doubt that Barry Bonds in his prime would just be helpless against any top bowling. Might have been able to handle a pure fast bowler with no deception, but really that's no more impressive than saying that a cricketer could be effective against a fastball with no movement.
   37. Fred Lynn Nolan Ryan Sweeney Agonistes Posted: December 23, 2013 at 12:52 PM (#4622916)
I feel like there's a story in the Creamer bio about Babe Ruth trying cricket and being immediately good at it.
Not surprising, because Babe Ruth. But I hadn't considered that he might've been hitting the cricket equivalent of BP.
   38. Morty Causa Posted: December 23, 2013 at 01:59 PM (#4622956)
Some non-villain David Warner roles: The aforementioned Chancellor Gorkon from Star Trek and Professor Grisenko from Doctor Who. Also as Bob Cratchit opposite George C. Scott as Scrooge.

Warner had a nice supporting role, mostly comic, in Sam Peckinpah's The Ballad of Cable Hogue, and he delivers one of best eulogies in movies (granted, Peckinpah showcases it so that the most is gotten our of his heartfelt oration).

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